PiedDroit Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) 1 lighthouse stations are passive 2 The lighthouse boxes send out (for humans invisible infrared) light signals which then the vive's IR-diodes can see. Is my understanding of passive.......wrong? They are active in the sense they emit stuff and do not receive anything within the the process (and the headset is the passive part, that receives light). They would better be qualified as "dumb" rather than "passive" in the sense that they don't compute or exchange data with the PC. That's a wrong choice of word IMO. Edited January 10, 2016 by PiedDroit
S3NTRY11 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Is my understanding of passive.......wrong? They would better be qualified as "dumb" rather than "passive" in the sense that they don't compute or exchange data with the PC. That's a wrong choice of word IMO. You're right, that is a much better way of putting it. I kinda glanced over that point when I read it. You guys don't miss a beat! :D Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
S3NTRY11 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Stuff like this makes me want to build a portable rig. Even for sims, having the ability to strap your pc, say to the back of your chair, would do wondrous things to remove the cable issue. How you keep your componentry (thinking desktop-level gear) safe tough... Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
S3NTRY11 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Certainly a beautiful technology It really is. Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
S3NTRY11 Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Foveated rendering + eye tracking! Gen2, I guess. https://youtu.be/m4HSdz5lFpA Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 11, 2016 ED Team Posted January 11, 2016 HTC Vive pre-orders to start on February 29 Pre-orders for HTC's virtual reality headset Vive will open on February 29, boss Cher Wang confirms http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/12092607/HTC-Vive-pre-orders-to-start-on-February-29.html Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
hansangb Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Ah, thanks. I'll order that as well. And keep the one I like better for DCS. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
Enduro14 Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Ah, thanks. I'll order that as well. And keep the one I like better for DCS. Same here ! Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
Chivas Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 With Vives current cash flow problems, and smartphone sale problems, they say they are going to concentrate more on VR. It also appears that Vive could be bought out in the near future by companies like ASUS. This could be very good for the Vive headset. Vive is still saying they will begin preorders in February, and ship in April, but there are a lot of alarm bells. Even features like Audio haven't been added yet to any prototypes. I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the Vive to ship. That said people ordering the Rift now have to wait until June, but I wouldn't be surprised if Vive slips past that.
spacenavy90 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Foveated rendering + eye tracking! Gen2, I guess. My goodness... They need to incorporate this SOON. I bet Oculus and HTC/Valve are going to be fighting over SMI soon. Who ever gets them first will very likely win this "console war". That is unless either company can reverse-engineer their own system. [ame] [/ame] Edited January 12, 2016 by spacenavy90 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Mi-8MTV2 | MiG-21 | M-2000C | F-86F | P-51D | BS2 | UH-1H | FC3 | CA 1.5 | A-10C | i7 2700k --EVGA GTX970 --16Gb RAM --Seiki 39" 4K --Saitek X-55 Rhino --Saitek Pro Flight Pedals --TrackIR 5 --Win10 x64
hansangb Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Things are certainly looking up! *IF* they can keep up with the speed of the human eye for the HD zone, it would be awesome for cockpit use of VR!! hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
S3NTRY11 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Things are certainly looking up! *IF* they can keep up with the speed of the human eye for the HD zone, it would be awesome for cockpit use of VR!! Unfortunately this will only really benefit frames per second. For flight sims, it's thebpixel density that will bone you, and that's a pure hardware problem. The tracking would need to be stupidly low latency too as you've alluded to. Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
spacenavy90 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Unfortunately this will only really benefit frames per second. For flight sims, it's thebpixel density that will bone you, and that's a pure hardware problem. The tracking would need to be stupidly low latency too as you've alluded to. Well, with the benefit of lower average FPS on games, means they can increase the screen size. Someone mentioned that 4k each eye would be doable on high-end cards in the next few years with foveated rendering. But agreed on the eye-tracking latency. But I don't doubt they would get it working eventually. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Mi-8MTV2 | MiG-21 | M-2000C | F-86F | P-51D | BS2 | UH-1H | FC3 | CA 1.5 | A-10C | i7 2700k --EVGA GTX970 --16Gb RAM --Seiki 39" 4K --Saitek X-55 Rhino --Saitek Pro Flight Pedals --TrackIR 5 --Win10 x64
S3NTRY11 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Fingers crossed. It all helps! Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
Kuky Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I can foresee many VR headsets that people will buy/upgrade in the future, and probably I will too. Ah well... PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
S3NTRY11 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I can foresee many VR headsets that people will buy/upgrade in the future, and probably I will too. Ah well... The price we pay for being at the cutting-edge. Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
Johnny Dioxin Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I really don't mind waiting a coupla-three years. I've only recently splashed out on 3 new monitors, so I'm quite happy for now - there's just no way I wouldn't lose a ton of cash if I sold them and bought a VR headset instead. My only worry is my age and the fact that my illness will only get worse, so I hope I can afford it before I am unable to use it :) Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
Frusheen Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I'm not one bit surprised by that news. I predicted $1200 for the Vive months ago and that was before the $600 rift price tag. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051
Rangi Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Hopefully they are doing the opposite to occulus, rumour high, sell low(er) than rumoured. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
SkateZilla Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Pre Orders Start Feb. 29th, lol... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
spacenavy90 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Valve will really shoot themselves in the foot if they pull an Oculus and double their price for about the same product. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Mi-8MTV2 | MiG-21 | M-2000C | F-86F | P-51D | BS2 | UH-1H | FC3 | CA 1.5 | A-10C | i7 2700k --EVGA GTX970 --16Gb RAM --Seiki 39" 4K --Saitek X-55 Rhino --Saitek Pro Flight Pedals --TrackIR 5 --Win10 x64
hansangb Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Wow..$1500! I was shooting for $1000 to $1200. Geesh. this one may require CFO approval. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
S3NTRY11 Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Rumour has it that that article was click-bait. Or maybe that's just my denial talking. Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
spacenavy90 Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Sounds like clickbait. If we knew the price of the Vive, we wouldn't stop hearing about it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Mi-8MTV2 | MiG-21 | M-2000C | F-86F | P-51D | BS2 | UH-1H | FC3 | CA 1.5 | A-10C | i7 2700k --EVGA GTX970 --16Gb RAM --Seiki 39" 4K --Saitek X-55 Rhino --Saitek Pro Flight Pedals --TrackIR 5 --Win10 x64
Rangi Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Rumour has it that that article was click-bait. Or maybe that's just my denial talking. Looks likely, a few factual errors make it look like it was written in a hurry. eg. "The Oculus Rift, which has investment from Google, has started pre-order sales with a price tag of US$599." PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
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