Manuel_108 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Since day one the joystick wiggles slightly in all directions, so does the throttle. The LEDS at the top never worked (didn't care about that tbh). Additionally, the right throttle often doesn't move very smoothly, feels like it's dragging so yeah, the quality could be better in my opinion.
Dudikoff Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Since day one the joystick wiggles slightly in all directions, so does the throttle. The LEDS at the top never worked (didn't care about that tbh). Additionally, the right throttle often doesn't move very smoothly, feels like it's dragging so yeah, the quality could be better in my opinion. Hope you didn't buy it new as that would be appalling. Never had one, only had Saitek sticks (X36, X52Pro and X65) and the Logitech G940 (plus the Thrustmaster Cougar which I've never even tried as I wanted to get the FSSB upgrade, but then went for the used X65 as the FSSB plus some throttle mod were too expensive), thus I'm curious as it was universally praised as being above all the rest even though they were dying left and right (relatively speeking compared to other joysticks). Sorry for OT. Edited March 8, 2015 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
hegykc Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Who is working on the WH stick? That would be moi :music_whistling: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=104154 www.replikagear.com
Manuel_108 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Hope you didn't buy it new as that would be appalling. Purchased it from Amazon. That would be moi :music_whistling: Wow, looks impressive. I'll definitely get me one of these. :thumbup:
turkeydriver Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Since day one the joystick wiggles slightly in all directions, so does the throttle. The LEDS at the top never worked (didn't care about that tbh). Additionally, the right throttle often doesn't move very smoothly, feels like it's dragging so yeah, the quality could be better in my opinion. Yeah thats a bad assembly job, sorry you got a bad deal. VF-2 Bounty Hunters https://www.csg-1.com/ DCS F-14 Pilot/RIO Discord: https://discord.gg/6bbthxk
7rooper Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 OK, that is superb and something I have been after creating for ages! Any chance of doing a little instructable style guide on how to go about making that extension? Yeah, sure! I'll post it very soon in the "Input Output/homemade cockpits" section haha, that homemade component worth 100 dollar, good job bro. Thanks, man. For this time only I'll show the secret for free for all the X-55 users and those still hesitating. The X-55 HOTAS is a good budget investment in spite lacking a couple of HATS. The Saitek software is utter rubbish, though. How should an adapter for the TM Hog e. g. work? In the same fashion but one advantage is that the TM hog has a PS2 connector from the base to the stick unlike Saitek which uses a propietary ball grid arrangement connector that makes neccesary to disassemble the stick to access to the cables for a simpler connection. My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR
smirkza Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Yeah, sure! I'll post it very soon in the "Input Output/homemade cockpits" section Fantastic, thanks! :thumbup: Cheers, Smirkza
IonicRipper Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 While were on the topic of HOTAS. Does anyone know how the maneuvering flaps switch on the stick work? I think ive seen that the switch has 2 functions? Maneuvering flaps and Direct lift control? i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
313_Nevo Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 7rooper maybe (not sure) cheap second hand Cyborg FLY5 can be used to provide the needed connector for X55 extension
proletariat23 Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 You can buy actual stick assemblies from toncats in eBay for like 60 bucks. I'm sure they could be rigged up. If I were thrustmaster I'd just eBay and then refurb and sell them to us for 500.
punk Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 You can buy actual stick assemblies from toncats in eBay for like 60 bucks. I'm sure they could be rigged up. If I were thrustmaster I'd just eBay and then refurb and sell them to us for 500. Really, and where do you find these items since I have only seen one on sale a few years ago, to late to bid since I only ran across the old add last year. Please post a link to the pages you have found, I am very interested in seeing them and perhaps doing something about them. Thanks, <Salute> Punk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tekrc Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) While were on the topic of HOTAS. Does anyone know how the maneuvering flaps switch on the stick work? I think ive seen that the switch has 2 functions? Maneuvering flaps and Direct lift control? DLC is toggled on and off with the silver button on the left side if gear is down. if gear is not down it toggles countermeasures. (there are not many countermeasures on the 14! keep that in mind. you only get 2 racks of them 1 for chaff 1 for flare) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_4TgRl2DMb8dGtyYXdKay11ODQ when DLC is active the maneuvering flaps rocker switch increases or decreases deflection effecting the AOA. allows easy adjustments to glideslope without moving throttle. (amazingly useful for carrier approaches) when DLC NOT active, maneuver flap rocker switch simply sets the maneuver flaps up or down. basically set before a turning fight but they will kick in automatically as well just something to keep in mind. the F14 pilot stick can NOT fire A-A missiles only select them. pilot can only fire guns and drop bombs. RIO controlled the firing of all missiles and selection of a-g weapons. so if you plan on building a pit you may want to build both sections and this is not a small section either. 14 is a big plane :) Edited March 20, 2017 by tekrc
lunaticfringe Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 DLC is toggled on and off with the silver button on the left side if gear is down. if gear is not down it toggles countermeasures. (there are not many countermeasures on the 14! keep that in mind. you only get 2 racks of them 1 chaff 1 flare) Which is why you stick an ECA or mount LAU-138s on there for your Sidewinders and chaff everything to oblivion, and get back the second bucket.
captain_dalan Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) just something to keep in mind. the F14 pilot stick can NOT fire A-A missiles only select them. pilot can only fire guns and drop bombs. RIO controlled the firing of all missiles and selection of a-g weapons. so if you plan on building a pit you may want to build both sections and this is not a small section either. 14 is a big plane :) Are you sure about this? Not even Widers? EDIT: " For example, on an air-to-ground mission when dropping laser-guided bombs, the RIO's job was to find the target with the LANTIRN pod and designate it. The pilot would verify it was the correct target and then "pickle" (fire) the weapon. Then it was back to the RIO to fire the laser and guide the weapon to impact while the pilot continued to fly the jet, looking for SAMs, etc. For Air-to-Air missions, the RIO worked the radar to acquire the bandit with the AWG-9. The Pilot would correlate the bandit to the threat information called out by the E-2C Hawkeye to ensure it was the correct target. The pilot would then select, arm and select and fire the appropriate missile. Then it was back to the RIO to maintain radar support as the intercept progressed and the missile flew down-range." http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/an-elite-f-14-airman-explains-why-the-tomcat-was-so-imp-1610043625 Which is why you stick an ECA or mount LAU-138s on there for your Sidewinders and chaff everything to oblivion, and get back the second bucket. When did these start coming around for the first time? Can we expect them in our Tomcat? Edited March 20, 2017 by captain_dalan Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache, F4U Corsair, WWII Assets Pack
Top Jockey Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) ... just something to keep in mind. the F14 pilot stick can NOT fire A-A missiles only select them. pilot can only fire guns and drop bombs. RIO controlled the firing of all missiles and selection of a-g weapons. so if you plan on building a pit you may want to build both sections and this is not a small section either. 14 is a big plane :) I believe that's not correct. Not 100 % sure, but regarding AA ordnance: Pilot could fire: guns; AIM-9; AIM-7 and AIM-54. RIO could fire: AIM7 and AIM-54. (About target search; acquisition; etc. that's a whole different thing.) Edited March 20, 2017 by Top Jockey Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
lunaticfringe Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 just something to keep in mind. the F14 pilot stick can NOT fire A-A missiles only select them. pilot can only fire guns and drop bombs. RIO controlled the firing of all missiles and selection of a-g weapons. so if you plan on building a pit you may want to build both sections and this is not a small section either. 14 is a big plane :) Do you know what a "forward firing weapon" is? Pilot had ability to fire anything on the aircraft. The only thing the trigger didn't fire was bombs. RIO only had access to launch AIM-7 and AIM-54.
turkeydriver Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 just something to keep in mind. the F14 pilot stick can NOT fire A-A missiles only select them. pilot can only fire guns and drop bombs. RIO controlled the firing of all missiles and selection of a-g weapons. so if you plan on building a pit you may want to build both sections and this is not a small section either. 14 is a big plane :) This is not correct at all. This is why when you watch multiple missile shot clips w/ audio, you hear the audio "your shot" which is one of the crew handing the launch to the other crewman. Pilot has complete control of guns and sidewinders. Pilot/Rio can both launch AIM-7 and AIM-54 VF-2 Bounty Hunters https://www.csg-1.com/ DCS F-14 Pilot/RIO Discord: https://discord.gg/6bbthxk
j-tk Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Any idea which company would be in the running to manufacture an F-14 A/B stick, and does its throttle deserve it's own, or would existing ones be easily re-mapped?
cichlidfan Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Any idea which company would be in the running to manufacture an F-14 A/B stick, and does its throttle deserve it's own, or would existing ones be easily re-mapped? Pretty much none. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
RaceFuel85 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Any idea which company would be in the running to manufacture an F-14 A/B stick, and does its throttle deserve it's own, or would existing ones be easily re-mapped? The upcoming Hornet add on to the Warthog HOTAS will be more than enough for the Tomcat.
Ghostrider142 Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 The upcoming Hornet add on to the Warthog HOTAS will be more than enough for the Tomcat. This is my plan, but I would throw money at someone making a Tomcat stick. i7-4770K @3.50GHz; EVGA 1070 8GB Superclocked; 16GB Ram; MSI Z97 Gaming; two Samsung 500GB SSD's in RAID; TrackIR; 32" 2560x1440 Samsung
Dino Might Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 This is my plan, but I would throw money at someone making a Tomcat stick. Agreed - much prefer a Tomcat offering, but I guess they know there's a bigger market for the Hornet. Anyone else still have replays of "he's too close for missiles, I'm switching to guns" and the selector switch cut playing in their head all the time when they think about a stick for DCS: F-14?
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