LJQCN101 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) This is a fairly demanding feature when it comes to having marked and destroyed multiple targets and also finding the TAD way too cluttered. Dunno why such a simple function is not implemented in DCS A-10C. Not a criticism, just "hope". Ref. T.O.1A-10C-1 Edited August 13, 2015 by LJQCN101 EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 what does that button do in DCS? Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 what does that button do in DCS? Currently has no function in DCS. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimi_uy Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I would suggest that once u mark targets and stuff with mk points copy them into mission waypoints and label them. Then u wont have to worry about which letter is what. This is very useful for ISR missions, not to mention battle damage assesment. [sIGPIC]][/sIGPIC] Fuel Planning Tool | DCS: A-10C SADL MOD | Kimi's Arma 3 Mods | Twitch.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 the problem with that is that the cdu gets very crowdy Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Is there any obvious reason that function was omitted in the first place? I haven't missed it yet, since I usually copy the mark points I want to use into a flight plan, I am just curious. Can't be classified I guess. :D DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFunk1606688187 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Everytime you create a mark point the CDU jumps to a page that lets you immediately create a mission point from it so its clear that the intention of the design was to immediately allow you to catalog the markpoint in a more useful way. Other ways to improve clutter is to not over complicate the marking process. Instead of marking every vehicle mark targets by area instead saving specific marks for PGMs and loner targets. There's no reason you can't slew your mavericks to a hot dot somewhere within a few hundred meters of the waypoint or use the TGP to create a SPI on a specific target within range of that single point. Using visual references during delivery can save the complications of overemphasizing system usage. If there are 2 or 3 viable targets within a discrete area there's no reason you can't simply spy it visually on a CCIP attack using the waypoint as the general reference until you get a specific tally. Once you have a smoke plume you can reference from that instead. Real pilots of course spend countless hours internalizing their trained methodologies that are part and parcel of how the systems are designed to be used. Real life also involves a lot more concern that you're hitting the right target so real pilots generally don't drop JDAMs on points they haven't named and entered manually. We bypass these safe guards but we also often bypass their strict methods that prevent the kind of clutter that often confounds us. Warning: Nothing I say is automatically correct, even if I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBlemmen Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Very strange that this isn't modeled... its so basic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansolo Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Is there any obvious reason that function was omitted in the first place? I haven't missed it yet, since I usually copy the mark points I want to use into a flight plan, I am just curious. Can't be classified I guess. :D If I recall correctly from another thread the deleting of mark points is implemented in a later suite then the one we have in DCS. I may be mistaken of cause :-) Cheers Hans 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCatMucDe Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 i also find it a pity that it isn't modeled. It is not much effort and it is very convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If I recall correctly from another thread the deleting of mark points is implemented in a later suite then the one we have in DCS. I may be mistaken of cause :-) Cheers Hans Well, it that is the case I guess it is OK that it isn't modeled. That being said: I'd still like to have it. :-) DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will- Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Guys should use the search functions. Stated many times of why it's not modeled in (hint) this version. Yes later suites of a10s have this ability and more. Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 That being said: I'd still like to have it. :-) I'd love to have suite 7 A-10C but it isn't going to happen. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'd love to have suite 7 A-10C but it isn't going to happen. Shoot might as well wish for suite 8 ;) v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFunk1606688187 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hell I'd pay $10 for a Suite upgrade for the A-10C. Maybe they could roll it out with the HMD after Hornet. :P Warning: Nothing I say is automatically correct, even if I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I think every fan of the A-10C would gladly pay $20 or more for a more modern suite, with HMCS, color TGP, the new radios, more CDU functionality and so on. But yeah, not going to happen. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I think every fan of the A-10C would gladly pay $20 or more for a more modern suite, with HMCS, color TGP, the new radios, more CDU functionality and so on. But yeah, not going to happen. To go from a suite 3/5ish we have now to suite 7 or 8 wouldn't be a 20 dollar upgrade IMO it is such a big difference it would be a full priced module. And I'd pay a lot more than full price for it. And never say never v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalahama Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 To go from a suite 3/5ish we have now to suite 7 or 8 wouldn't be a 20 dollar upgrade IMO it is such a big difference it would be a full priced module. And I'd pay a lot more than full price for it. And never say never Honestly, ED should release A-10C and Ka-50 source code or at least part of them; they are not going to be updated anymore, mods could introduce new features and they would be a great learning resource for people trying to inderstand how 3rd party aircraft works. Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Honestly, ED should release A-10C and Ka-50 source code or at least part of them Honestly, that is probably not going to happen. I think before ED can do anymore USA we need/have to get a Russian ASM aircraft from the FC3 lineup to be fair.:) Sorry for the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Coloured TGP? Witchcraft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFunk1606688187 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Last thing I really could care about is a coloured TGP. Gimme hydraulic failures that actually happen and the ensuing need to actually use MRFCS, Mk82AIRs with realistic ballistic properties, JDAM symbology and functionality that exceeds 5% of the real thing's capability, Mk82 airburst fuzing with fragmentation effect, SADL and TAD functionality that represents its actual capabilities, an external flight planning and attack planning utility that simulates the Mission Data Cartridge of the real jet, and oh... I dunno... chocks. :D Warning: Nothing I say is automatically correct, even if I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 In case this goes "wishlist", paying full price for avionics upgrades for an A-10C is something I would do without any thought. A-10C is such a fantastic plane, even after all these years flying it. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalahama Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 JDAM symbology and functionality that exceeds 5% of the real thing's capability,(...) , SADL and TAD functionality that represents its actual capabilities, Some time ago I was messing with A-10C lua files and found some additional functionality like you said that it's not activated in our version. I tried to uncomment the lines unsucessfully, the functionality should have been deactivated in the code I guess... Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianJ Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Mk82AIRs with realistic ballistic properties Whats wrong with the ballistic properties, how do you calculate the resistance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 While we're at it: JDAMs still make me angry. I hope DCSW will include "AFM"s for those. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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