Dappman Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 The UI and keybinding pain kills it for me... I always just come back to DCS. I've had BMS installed on my computer for a couple years and never got to actually play it because I can't set up the controls. I used to think it was a pain setting controls in DCS, its a piece of cake compared to BMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONTIAC Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 At least they can say are the new modules will be russian or western airplanes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) The UI and keybinding pain kills it for me... I always just come back to DCS. I have always loved the F-16 and owned every iteration of falcon since Falcon AT. I spent about 3 hours today trying to get BMS working with no luck. Simply couldn't get the game to work with my warthog and MFDs. What should be intuitive and work for assigning controls simply doesn't. And the really sad thing was the graphics. Again, I may not have had them "set up properly" because I lost patience trying. DCS Looks a hundred time better on low settings. There is simply no comparison. Like you I simply gave up and came back to DCS. I sincerely hope ED eventually brings out the F-16. I think there are plenty of people waiting for it. Edited November 3, 2015 by Sierra99 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I have always loved the F-16 and owned every iteration of falcon since Falcon AT. I spent about 3 hours today trying to get BMS working with no luck. Simply couldn't get the game to work with my warthog and MFDs. What should be intuitive and work for assigning controls simply doesn't. And the really sad thing was the graphics. Again, I may not have had them "set up properly" because I lost patience trying. DCS Looks a hundred time better on low settings. There is simply no comparison. Like you I simply gave up and came back to DCS. I sincerely hope ED eventually brings out the F-16. I think there are plenty of people waiting for it. It's ok until you fly at low altitude that's when the terrain really shows itself up compared to dcs. I await to see how much improvement there is with this new patch but I can see by videos it's still a long way off the quality of DCS terrain. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLARIS1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Key binding for the Warthog within BMS, with or without the MFDs, is nothing short of a piece of cake.There are essentially two ways: 1. My preferred: use Kolbe's dx generator attached within the sim's folders. Read the manual, choose your settings as you prefer them (or use the template provided) and then just copy paste into the BMS-Full.key...rename it...put it back into the config folder and load it up. 2. Target: there are two sets of ready to go profiles within the community...Morphine and Mud. Download...copy...paste...go. Spend another two minutes within the BMS setup/controllers/advanced settings and go fly. Even in DCS your Warthog is pretty handicapped in most modules unless you edit the lua with custom controls or make a target profile. I sure love my DCS. I only wish to have more of its promises than of its prophecies. . . Edited November 3, 2015 by POLARIS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook47 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 So about this DCS World thing? Lol Better yet how about those secret modules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCatMucDe Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Key binding for the Warthog within BMS, with or without the MFDs, is nothing short of a piece of cake.There are essentially two ways: 1. My preferred: use Kolbe's dx generator attached within the sim's folders. Read the manual, choose your settings as you prefer them (or use the template provided) and then just copy paste into the BMS-Full.key...rename it...put it back into the config folder and load it up. 2. Target: there are two sets of ready to go profiles within the community...Morphine and Mud. Download...copy...paste...go. Spend another two minutes within the BMS setup/controllers/advanced settings and go fly. Even in DCS your Warthog is pretty handicapped in most modules unless you edit the lua with custom controls or make a target profile. I sure love my DCS. I only wish to have more of its promises than of its prophecies. . . The pain is setting up the axis not the key bindings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLARIS1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's the part that takes 2 minutes mate... PM shall be sent shortly, for this is the DCS world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Key binding for the Warthog within BMS, with or without the MFDs, is nothing short of a piece of cake.There are essentially two ways: 1. My preferred: use Kolbe's dx generator attached within the sim's folders. Read the manual, choose your settings as you prefer them (or use the template provided) and then just copy paste into the BMS-Full.key...rename it...put it back into the config folder and load it up. 2. Target: there are two sets of ready to go profiles within the community...Morphine and Mud. Download...copy...paste...go. Spend another two minutes within the BMS setup/controllers/advanced settings and go fly. Even in DCS your Warthog is pretty handicapped in most modules unless you edit the lua with custom controls or make a target profile. I sure love my DCS. I only wish to have more of its promises than of its prophecies. . . Key bindings for Warthog within DCS: plug in HOTAS Warthog. Game recognizes controller and assigned ALL default functions with ZERO interaction from me. To CHANGE a function, Start game, Open Options...Double click function you want to assign button to...click button on controller...hit save. Fly. How is your way easier? I'm not new at this. I've been playing with Thrustamster Controllers and flight sims for more than 20 years. I'm not new to computers. I've been playing with them since the 8088...The fact you have to have in depth instructions and an outside program just to assign a button to a function when it should be one of the most intuitive things possible makes my point quite effectively. The HOTAS Cougar has been around what? 15 years? Why isn't it hard coded to game the same way? That being said, the graphics simply don't compare. Sure the cockpit looks nice and everything is functional...but ALL of the exterior models look dated and sloppy. Again, I completely admit I only spent about 30 minutes trying to get things to look like they do in the videos...but it shouldn't take that long. It didn't take 1/2 that time to adjust to he video settings when we switched from 1.2 to 1.5 in DCS. In my opinion the only things BMS has going for it are Dynamic campaign and the ATC system...which ED is looking to improve. Don't get me wrong, I wanted BMS to work...but the detractors far out weight the time and effort necessary to make it work as advertised. I sincerely hope a DCS level F-16 is in the works. And I don't think I am alone. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 So about this DCS World thing? Lol Better yet how about those secret modules? What's DCS world? :pilotfly: Sorry. Not trying to threadjack. You can look at the previous posts as extended explanations of why I love DCW: World (< mandatory content) and why I am hopeful for a DCS level Viper from SOMEBODY...perhaps LN sims. THAT being said, I went back through this thread last night looking at the different ideas being bandied about and to be honest most of them are modules I'd consider buying. What intrigues me is the obvious effort LN is making to produce theaters to match their aircraft. That means the mystery aircraft either never operated in the same part of the world...OR...one of the aircraft requires a unique operating environment. COUGH>COUGH>CARRIEROPS<COUGH<COUGH. I'd love to know how much coordination is going on behind the scenes between ED, LN, Belsim etc. about who's going to do what and when. I simply can't believe they're operating in a vacuum completely unaware of what each other is working on. That would be counter productive. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 LOL! It's EASY if you know how! :cry: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLARIS1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Sierra99, 1. I never wrote "easier" but "easy"...as in not comparing it to DCS but helping a fellow simmer with an issue. 2. I didn't compare Falcon BMS to DCS and I'm not going to, besides stating facts. 3. Assigning the WartHog in DCS is not without its difficulties, as can be seen at my dedicated thread over at the input section with the amount of people who read it and download and use the package I provide just to help people out. While I do respect your experience I think it is best if we leave the issue of which is better and give our respect both to ED for their achievements, as well as to the BMS team for their achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted November 3, 2015 ED Team Share Posted November 3, 2015 Lets drop the references to BMS guys, its of no relevance here. Thanks. 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castor Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Any news ? Update December 2015 ??? 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System specs: CPU: i7-9700K@ 5.0 GHz | RAM: 32 GB | GPU: RTX 2080 Super | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | CH Products Pro Pedals |HP REverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit_ Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Well...any news on Mig-21 external sound? It's getting really embarrassing. Or are we going to get it on DCS 10.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Well...any news on Mig-21 external sound? It's getting really embarrassing. Or are we going to get it on DCS 10.0? What, exactly, is embarrassing? It's coming. No ETA. Maybe DCS 11. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit_ Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 What, exactly, is embarrassing? It's coming. No ETA. Maybe DCS 11. Embarrassing is, that the in cockpit sound is ready for quiet some time, but the external sound not. I just don't understand it. The work on F-14 is going on full throttle and it seems like this has been forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akki Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Embarrassing is, that the in cockpit sound is ready for quiet some time, but the external sound not. I just don't understand it. The work on F-14 is going on full throttle and it seems like this has been forgotten. As far as I know, Mig21 is still beta. Don't worry, if a bug exists, I'm sure they will fix it. Win 8.1, I7 4770K 4.5ghz watercooled, 240gb SSD in Raid 0, 16GB DDR3-2400, EVGA GTX780 watercooled, LG 29EA73-P (2560x1080) Cobra M5 *modded by BRD*, CH Pro Throttle, Pro Combat Pedals, TrackIR5 Pro + Delanclip, Bose QC 15, TM Cougar MFD's 300/30 mbps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit_ Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 As far as I know, Mig21 is still beta. Don't worry, if a bug exists, I'm sure they will fix it. It's not really a bug, more like a missing thing. It's just confusing, there is no info about it, so it started to irritate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think what is being forgotten is Nevada is in open ALPHA. I don't have a problem that the mig is not working, of course I would like it working, I want to fly the mig in the new map. But I believe LN will have the bugs ironed out before Nevada comes out of open Alpha, and what's the problem with that. There is another version of DCS using EDGE that you can fly the mig in. Maybe to ease the ear bashing you guys (LN) could put a notice on the purchase page of the 21 saying about having some problems running in 2.0 at the moment I don't know. I'm sure these guys have a heavy workload at the moment can we not give them a break? 1 RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig29movt Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think what is being forgotten is Nevada is in open ALPHA. I don't have a problem that the mig is not working, of course I would like it working, I want to fly the mig in the new map. But I believe LN will have the bugs ironed out before Nevada comes out of open Alpha, and what's the problem with that. There is another version of DCS using EDGE that you can fly the mig in. Maybe to ease the ear bashing you guys (LN) could put a notice on the purchase page of the 21 saying about having some problems running in 2.0 at the moment I don't know. I'm sure these guys have a heavy workload at the moment can we not give them a break? +1 totally agree but I'm only replying to this post to tell you that it is working now (since an hour or so) Happy flying :megalol: :joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit... ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this? i7-5960X (8 core @3.00GHz)¦32GB DDR4 RAM¦Asus X99-WS/IPMI¦2x GTX970 4GB SLI¦Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSD¦TrackIR 5 Pro¦TM Warthog¦MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz262 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I really wish you guys could tell us about the new aircraft you are planning on releasing, as I don't want to purchase the Mirage if there is something better coming :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekiplav Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I really wish you guys could tell us about the new aircraft you are planning on releasing, as I don't want to purchase the Mirage if there is something better coming :) I think just because of that they are staying quiet. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Breeze Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 We already know what we are getting... We just don't know the when of the matter. Unless..... There is a diabolical bait and switch in the works! * resonant evil laugh* JK ;) "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emg Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I really wish you guys could tell us about the new aircraft you are planning on releasing, as I don't want to purchase the Mirage if there is something better coming :) We already know the aircraft. And no, there is no better interceptor being released in the near future :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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