Zimmerdylan Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I stated in another thread that I happened across an A10 pilot from Davis Monthan AFB not too long ago and that he was taking music lessons from me (yeah....even pilots have to have hobbies). So anyway. He was very curious to check out DCS and the A10A and C (he has flown both). So when he was here yesterday I brought him into a training mission that I had set up and he was pretty excited about the whole thing, but he instantly, (without hesitation said) "That's wrong" when he looked at the configuration of the armament. I was a bit puzzled but when he elaborated on it, he did make sense. He told me that they never load 3 Mavs per side on an A10. He said that the inside Mav will burn the flaps when it's launched. I was just curious about this. I'm pretty sure that ED probably knows this but maybe lets you set it up that way for the obvious effectiveness and fun factor. I remember there being some to do a while back about the rocket configuration being too overstated, so I was just wondering if anyone here has any knowledge about this. Overall, the guy was pretty impressed with the A10. He did not however fly it at all because he was kind of pressed for time and was straight forward and said that he'd be embarrassed if he (a pilot) couldn't actually fly a simulator. I can honestly relate to that. I am a very accomplished musician on several instruments but won't touch Rock Band or any of those games. He really liked the P-51 by the way. He knows several pilots that fly it and when I showed him the start up procedure, he said it was pretty spot on with the exception that I didn't pump any oil prior to starting up. Anyway, if this guy tells me this about the Mavs, I tend to believe him because it's his job. But I also believe that DCS is privy to this info too but lets you set them up that way for effect. It's all good with me. Those extra Mavs save me from having to get close to two less targets. :joystick: 2
Snoopy Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I have lots of knowledge. Yes it is not the norm to carry three mavs but it can (and has) been done. Within the 476th vFG we limit it to two mavs per wing to mirror real world normal operations. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
Santi871 Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Yep. As always good to hear info from actual pilots. Seeing as there are no double rail launchers, I'm sure they only realized this once the TERs had been designed, built and shipped, and it was probably easier to just not load the innermost Maverick rather than designing a whole new launcher.
PiedDroit Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Interesting, I thought it was the tires that were burnt. I even read that they were loading only one on the side of the TGP to avoid burning it too, it is true?
Zimmerdylan Posted November 15, 2015 Author Posted November 15, 2015 Yep. As always good to hear info from actual pilots. Seeing as there are no double rail launchers, I'm sure they only realized this once the TERs had been designed, built and shipped, and it was probably easier to just not load the innermost Maverick rather than designing a whole new launcher. Yeah, makes perfect sense. Hence, DCS allowing them to be loaded as in real life. The guy I chatted with said that it was just never done, not that it couldn't be. He was pretty impressed with the cockpit. I only have the X52 HOTAS and he was saying all that stuff about everything being right there at your fingertips in the actual AC. I told him that there is a HOTAS and stick designed after the A10 specifically but I wasn't willing to go the price for it just now. My wife is already on me a little about how much $$$ I put into toys. He'll be back next week so I'll prod him a little more. I don't think it will take much to get him to go full in to showing me a bunch of specifics. He likes the sim.
baltic_dragon Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 Looking forward to your future reports! Really curious what a real A-10 pilot will say about the sim. Thanks for sharing! For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
sniperwolfpk5 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 Just learning BMS 4.33 and saw a lot of differences in mavricks. In BMS manual clearly stated that in real 3 mavs are not loaded. Also the procedure is more complex to arm and deploy. I am just a virtual pilot so I might be wrong as I am comparing two different crafts F-16 vs A10c Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language
javelina1 Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 OP - learn a new thing every day. thanks for the report from the RL pilot. Pass on any further info! :thumbup: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
Gliptal Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Low end badly placed HOTAS, no headtracking and a small monitor? I have a better training setup myself! :music_whistling:
GurbY Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Low end badly placed HOTAS, no headtracking and a small monitor? I have a better training setup myself! :music_whistling: So do I. Still...... I'd like to participate..... ;-)
ED Team NineLine Posted November 16, 2015 ED Team Posted November 16, 2015 Low end badly placed HOTAS, no headtracking and a small monitor? I have a better training setup myself! :music_whistling: They get to fly the real thing later though... so they have that on you ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Harzach Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Low end badly placed HOTAS, no headtracking and a small monitor? I have a better training setup myself! :music_whistling: I assume you are being facetious, but IIRC, that pic is of something along the lines of a cockpit familiarization/basic switchology class.
SUBS17 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Just learning BMS 4.33 and saw a lot of differences in mavricks. In BMS manual clearly stated that in real 3 mavs are not loaded. Also the procedure is more complex to arm and deploy. I am just a virtual pilot so I might be wrong as I am comparing two different crafts F-16 vs A10c From what page does it say that? BTW it says here that they have triple launchers on the F-16, LAU-88. I do recall FC A-10A could not carry triple AGM65s for the reason mentioned above. Why does ED model the triple configuration in DCS for the A-10A/C? Was there a real life modification to allow this? http://www.f-16.net/f-16_armament_article4.html [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
ED Team NineLine Posted November 16, 2015 ED Team Posted November 16, 2015 From what page does it say that? BTW it says here that they have triple launchers on the F-16, LAU-88. I do recall FC A-10A could not carry triple AGM65s for the reason mentioned above. Why does ED model the triple configuration in DCS for the A-10A/C? Was there a real life modification to allow this? http://www.f-16.net/f-16_armament_article4.html Probably because it can be done, it just isnt anymore see here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2554410&postcount=2 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Gliptal Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 They get to fly the real thing later though... so they have that on you ;) So do I. Still...... I'd like to participate..... ;-) I assume you are being facetious, but IIRC, that pic is of something along the lines of a cockpit familiarization/basic switchology class.I was just kidding guys, I'd trade all my stuff to train for the real thing!
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