The DCS Updater / Launcher GUI Utility Version 2.0 (2023+)

[diamond26]

4 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

which hive? i cant see anything obvious?

I search registry using the file name of the app. It will bring up DCS updater ones but you only delete those with V2 in the name

[speed-of-heat]

yeah did that ... no difference still just "random" behaviour sometime it loads sometimes it seems to scan and never come back 

though at least i get a skate directory now .. so there is that 

 

 

if i force a scan it seems to work... 

 

under module manager

 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Minor issue: while browsing for TrackIR client but OpenTrack program was selected, the application crashed.

[speed-of-heat]

The custom launch script is limited to 250 characters 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Suggestions:

1. 3rd party apps could have been hidden on the side bar if they are not selected.

2. Love the bar mode, but could have included the 3rd party applications ticked.

3. Addition theme colours: white on greyish blue and red on black.

Edited July 1, 2023 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[Eaglewings]

I cannot launch into VR with new version of app. It goes into 2d mode after clicking Launch VR ON. 

I still have the old version and that does launches into VR mode.

Is there any further setting required for VR to work in the new version?

[speed-of-heat]

2 minutes ago, Eaglewings said:

I cannot launch into VR with new version of app. It goes into 2d mode after clicking Launch VR ON. 

I still have the old version and that does launches into VR mode.

Is there any further setting required for VR to work in the new version?

go to advanced options, and select the VR Rendering Driver 

[speed-of-heat]

I freakin love this bit:

 

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[Eaglewings]

11 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

go to advanced options, and select the VR Rendering Driver 

Thanks. That solved  the issue. Selected openxr APi and it worked. 

The new app is really feature-rich. 

[Lange_666]

Multi-Threading: ON/OFF button always reverts to ON when DCS is exited when set to OFF prior to loading.

[muzica9]

2 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

sure not sure it will help ... its designed to launch DCS and a bunch of apps in the right order ...  currently its a  batch file , obviously it would need to change if I could use  Skate's app

 

thanks. i have managed to make the .bat file work as single file but do not know how to implement to DCS Updater GUI Utility script box

[speed-of-heat]

7 minutes ago, muzica9 said:

thanks. i have managed to make the .bat file work as single file but do not know how to implement to DCS Updater GUI Utility script box

lets start a separate thread on that or DM me ... and not cluter this one any more than it needs 

[kaltokri]

I was confused about the Presets in the new version.

It doesn't use the existing Options.lua.Preset01, ...02 etc. files anymore.

Instead the files are placed in the Presets subfolder (e.g. Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Presets).

This is a cleaner and better way.

Thank you SkateZilla!

[kaltokri]

I'm not able to use the new presets. If I use Default, then DCS starts, but if I use another Preset I got the following error:

Informationen über das Aufrufen von JIT-Debuggen
anstelle dieses Dialogfelds finden Sie am Ende dieser Meldung.

************** Ausnahmetext **************
System.IO.IOException: Eine Datei kann nicht erstellt werden, wenn sie bereits vorhanden ist.

   bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
   bei System.IO.File.InternalMove(String sourceFileName, String destFileName, Boolean checkHost)
   bei Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem.CopyOrMoveFile(CopyOrMove operation, String sourceFileName, String destinationFileName, Boolean overwrite, UIOptionInternal showUI, UICancelOption onUserCancel)
   bei DCS_Updater_GUI_Utility.Form1.PRESET_ON()
   bei DCS_Updater_GUI_Utility.Form1.LAUNCHDCSMAIN()
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

So I can't use the app until I got an information how to solve this issue.

I start the add with Admin Rights.

[Wikkus]

Just a quick "thank you"!
Donated to the coffee/beer/cake fund

Rik.

 

[Dauntless]

I've got this puppy installed with no operational problems!

Only gig I got is that says that I have the Hind but I don't. it doesn't show in the game and I don't remember buying it.

It's still there after the numerous times I have ran the scan.

Just sayin!

Thanks very much for this tool!! 

[heloguy]

Epic update Skate!  Does anyone know if there's a way to make a custom app Run as Administrator?

[SkateZilla]

10 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

something seems odd in the scripts box, it will let me type multiple lines , but not paste multiple lines  past what is visible in the text box... so if i paste 20 lines of text i only get the first 7 or so... 

also im not getting a directory created in appdata/local  not quite sure what is going on ?  settings dont seem to be being saved?

 

I will look into the scripts box,
you can also force save a single line, then open /Saved Games/DCS Updater Utility/DCS Updater Custom Scripts.bat and paste the contents and save, then relaunch the app.

 

10 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

the app behaviour is inconsistent. sometimes settings are there sometimes not (the is is the DCS file locations and exe locations) , it seems to be keeping the path... but the build scanner seems to constantly cycle... 

 

this maybe due to user permissions.

 

9 hours ago, diamond26 said:

Unfortunately is not working out of the box as expected. Crashed in the first try of launching DCS and then wasn’t able to set it up. After crash you need to restart windows to get it to work again.

After second crash I can't setup the app anymore

 

This maybe due to Windows putting the App in Sleep/Background Process Status instead of closing it, Open Task Manager, Processes Tab, and scroll down thru the background Processes and ensure windows did not put it in sleep mode, which will prevent new instances from launching.

 

9 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

the behaviour of launch external apps , is not really ideal, some apps i want to launch before DCS is running some after , so XRNexcksafer must launch before DCS and Voice Attack  needs to launch after (in my case) WMR portal is active.. which i normally use a script for ...  

the app was "remembering" the modules an characteristics for about 5 launches and now it seems o have forgotten  them again 

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and on the next launch 

 

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If it's not displaying version numbers then it's because when scanning for build the path or file was not accessible.

 

9 hours ago, diamond26 said:

I had to delete some registry keys related to the new app to make it work again. I now run it as Admin and so far it's working (2 succesful launches). For some reason the VR settings always start at PD 1.3 and the screen resolution always at max despite the different presets setting

 

My App does not touch the System Registry at all.

8 hours ago, diamond26 said:

it seems that the VR Rendering Driver is not working. I choose OpenXR API but the game launched with Oculus (No multithreading)

 

OpenXR still requires Oculus App to launch, it will launch Oculus with OpenXR Libraries (evident by the OpenXR Overlay and options.)
OpenXR also AFAIK only works in MT More.

7 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

The custom launch script is limited to 250 characters 

I will look into this, Pretty sure I had changed the value to allow significantly more, but it may have reverted.

7 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

Suggestions:

1. 3rd party apps could have been hidden on the side bar if they are not selected.

2. Love the bar mode, but could have included the 3rd party applications ticked.

3. Addition theme colours: white on greyish blue and red on black.

 

The issue with any color on black, would be Contrast Ratio, as evident by "Tron/Matrix" Color Scheme, the contrast to anything on black makes the text look horrible.

6 hours ago, Eaglewings said:

I cannot launch into VR with new version of app. It goes into 2d mode after clicking Launch VR ON. 

I still have the old version and that does launches into VR mode.

Is there any further setting required for VR to work in the new version?

I will double check the Loading routine, as it should set it to default, but if it's launching and remaining blank then I need to fix that.

6 hours ago, Lange_666 said:

Multi-Threading: ON/OFF button always reverts to ON when DCS is exited when set to OFF prior to loading.

Multi-Threaded Button Defaults to on if MT Binaries are detected as MT is the default, and ST is now technically a "Legacy/Support" Mode.

2 hours ago, kaltokri said:

I'm not able to use the new presets. If I use Default, then DCS starts, but if I use another Preset I got the following error:

Informationen über das Aufrufen von JIT-Debuggen
anstelle dieses Dialogfelds finden Sie am Ende dieser Meldung.

************** Ausnahmetext **************
System.IO.IOException: Eine Datei kann nicht erstellt werden, wenn sie bereits vorhanden ist.

   bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
   bei System.IO.File.InternalMove(String sourceFileName, String destFileName, Boolean checkHost)
   bei Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem.CopyOrMoveFile(CopyOrMove operation, String sourceFileName, String destinationFileName, Boolean overwrite, UIOptionInternal showUI, UICancelOption onUserCancel)
   bei DCS_Updater_GUI_Utility.Form1.PRESET_ON()
   bei DCS_Updater_GUI_Utility.Form1.LAUNCHDCSMAIN()
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

So I can't use the app until I got an information how to solve this issue.

I start the add with Admin Rights.

Make sure something isn't locking the files, or there isnt an options.lua in the /Default/ Folder (that's where the default is moved to when another preset is being used)
As it's saying the files cannot be moved because it already exists, 

38 minutes ago, Dauntless said:

I've got this puppy installed with no operational problems!

Only gig I got is that says that I have the Hind but I don't. it doesn't show in the game and I don't remember buying it.

It's still there after the numerous times I have ran the scan.

Just sayin!

Thanks very much for this tool!! 

I will double check the scan, I have a few reports of modules being reported as installed.
double check that /DCS/Mods/aircraft/Mi-24P/ Folder and entry.lua doesn't exist.

[Dauntless]

56 minutes ago, SkateZilla said:

Idouble check that /DCS/Mods/aircraft/Mi-24P/ Folder and entry.lua doesn't exist.

Folder exists along with cockpit and liveries with in but no entry.lua

Odd as I have never had it installed.

Just deleted the folder and  started the utility and scanned, still shows.

Gone now!! Thanks!

Edited July 1, 2023 by Dauntless

[Lange_666]

About the presets:
Is it possible to write a quick step by step on how to set them?
I've done what i have done in the old updater, go in DCS, set the settings i want for a certain preset, save to a custom preset, exit DCS, create a preset name in the updater app and then hit apply.

This doesn't seem to work anymore in the new version. My presets are all mixed up now.
Also, select a preset, change the settings in the updater instead of in DCS and then save doesn't save any of the changes i made to that preset.
I guess to problem sits on my end but i don't see the tree through the forest...

Edited July 1, 2023 by Lange_666

[SkateZilla]

11 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

About the presets:
Is it possible to write a quick step by step on how to set them?
I've done what i have done in the old updater, go in DCS, set the settings i want for a certain preset, save to a custom preset, exit DCS, create a preset name in the updater app and then hit apply.

This doesn't seem to work anymore in the new version. My presets are all mixed up now.
Also, select a preset, change the settings in the updater instead of in DCS and then save doesn't save any of the changes i made to that preset.
I guess to problem sits on my end but i don't see the tree through the forest...

 

Delete the entire Config/Presets/ Folder,
Delete or remove any options.presetxx.lua files as well.
Launch the App, it will Populate new Preset Files automatically.
Select a Preset, let it load values, note the log on the bottom of the screen, it will tell you which values are not able to be loaded because they arent in the file.

Note: that the Editor will not save changes to any preset parameter that doesn't already exist in the file.
in the future there will be some changes, as I plan to expand the options.lua parser  and saving.

 

Also note, the App Presets have Zero to do with the Presets inside the DCS Options Screen.
They are 2 separate systems, one's ED's and requires you to launch into DCS to switch presets.
The App's presets are self contained files that swap out at launch, so once in DCS, change whatever settings you want, and press OK (not Save to Custom1/2/3), or Configure them in the App and press save.

 

31 minutes ago, Dauntless said:

Folder exists along with cockpit and liveries with in but no entry.lua

Odd as I have never had it installed.

Just deleted the folder and  started the utility and scanned, still shows.

Gone now!! Thanks!

 

Ok, Good to hear, I am constantly adjusting module scanner, so it wouldn't be all that surprising if it was false detecting something.
 

[Lorry]

Absolute legend. I'll give it a good bash this weekend

 

[speed-of-heat]

1 hour ago, SkateZilla said:

I will look into the scripts box,
you can also force save a single line, then open /Saved Games/DCS Updater Utility/DCS Updater Custom Scripts.bat and paste the contents and save, then relaunch the app.

 

this maybe due to user permissions.

 

This maybe due to Windows putting the App in Sleep/Background Process Status instead of closing it, Open Task Manager, Processes Tab, and scroll down thru the background Processes and ensure windows did not put it in sleep mode, which will prevent new instances from launching.

 

If it's not displaying version numbers then it's because when scanning for build the path or file was not accessible.

 

My App does not touch the System Registry at all.

OpenXR still requires Oculus App to launch, it will launch Oculus with OpenXR Libraries (evident by the OpenXR Overlay and options.)
OpenXR also AFAIK only works in MT More.

I will look into this, Pretty sure I had changed the value to allow significantly more, but it may have reverted.

The issue with any color on black, would be Contrast Ratio, as evident by "Tron/Matrix" Color Scheme, the contrast to anything on black makes the text look horrible.

I will double check the Loading routine, as it should set it to default, but if it's launching and remaining blank then I need to fix that.

Multi-Threaded Button Defaults to on if MT Binaries are detected as MT is the default, and ST is now technically a "Legacy/Support" Mode.

Make sure something isn't locking the files, or there isnt an options.lua in the /Default/ Folder (that's where the default is moved to when another preset is being used)
As it's saying the files cannot be moved because it already exists, 

I will double check the scan, I have a few reports of modules being reported as installed.
double check that /DCS/Mods/aircraft/Mi-24P/ Folder and entry.lua doesn't exist.

Thanks, my issue , seems to be fixed by forcing a module scan, and when the issue takes place the Build Scanner: shows as Active and does not return to idle .

[SkateZilla]

20 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

Thanks, my issue , seems to be fixed by forcing a module scan, and when the issue takes place the Build Scanner: shows as Active and does not return to idle .

an Exception error may be occurring, like I said, the build scanner and module scanner are constantly updated, I'll keep an eye out for an errant exception that causes the function to stop instead of completing.

[speed-of-heat]

31 minutes ago, SkateZilla said:

an Exception error may be occurring, like I said, the build scanner and module scanner are constantly updated, I'll keep an eye out for an errant exception that causes the function to stop instead of completing.

so the error in the l;og file i get is  (but i have selected a build, if there is any diagnostic you want me to do let me know 

07/01/2023 | 09:10:23 PM | WARNING | No Build Selected, Skipping Preset Scan