Alfredson007 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 I admit. I am too lazy and unmotivated to learn the RSBN etc needles. I briefly tried them, but the needle seems to be quite different from VOR/HSI. What i would LOVE to see would be a western attitude indicator, maybe ft-altimeter and definetaly western ILS/VOR system with radio's that are tuneable with frequencies. Anyone with me?
ScapaFlow Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) The needle points directly to the beacon. If you understand how a western ADF works, it's not a problem to read the ARC/RSBN needle. :) http://www.pyrochta.ch/flash/start_adf.htm There's a mod with instruments displaying feet&knots, you can find it in the mod forum. An ILS mod with tuneable freqs is not likely to happen, Leatherneck have a lot on their plate. Edited March 10, 2016 by ScapaFlow
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 You dial in a channel and a radial on the RSBN and voíla... it is easier then the VOR system. This is not hard. Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
Alfredson007 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 You dial in a channel and a radial on the RSBN and voíla... it is easier then the VOR system. This is not hard. Yes it's easy to dial in the channel and turn the radial, it is the intercepting the radial that gets me. How do i know how to get to the radial and how to know i am on the radial. Yeah i know all this is in the manuals and in the youtube but the problem is i am not very interested in learning rsbn... i know VOR/ADF/ILS etc though... It's a not a big deal. Thanks for your help though.
westr Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Yes it's easy to dial in the channel and turn the radial, it is the intercepting the radial that gets me. How do i know how to get to the radial and how to know i am on the radial. Yeah i know all this is in the manuals and in the youtube but the problem is i am not very interested in learning rsbn... i know VOR/ADF/ILS etc though... It's a not a big deal. Thanks for your help though. In the Mission Editor I use the ruler tool I believe. I gives you degrees as well as distance. You see the RSBN stations on the map. I run the ruler tool from this RSBN station (i.e where I take off) to a point on the map I want to travel to and take down the degrees. I can also take down the distance as well. Tune into the correct RSBN station before takeoff. Dial in the appropriate heading before takeoff. And follow the que to intercept the radial I.e when the bar moves across as you fly over the RSBN station you then turn to the heading the needle I have set, then make adjustments left/right to get the RSBN bar in the centre of your heading display. It works well. I set little trigger zones in the ME and was able to set of the trigger in zone from quite a distance, you can also use visual references as well to help you along the way. Mig-21 is an awesome module. Edited March 10, 2016 by westr RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV
Ramsay Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 How do i know how to get to the radial and how to know i am on the radial. As you already know VOR/ADF/ILS it is very straight forward. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
statrekmike Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 It does not take long at all to learn RSBN, it is far quicker to do so than to wait for someone to make a mod for you.
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Any person who knows how VOR navigation works can work this one out in 15 minutes. But if you are not interested, you want people to make a mod for you? Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
Alfredson007 Posted March 11, 2016 Author Posted March 11, 2016 Any person who knows how VOR navigation works can work this one out in 15 minutes. But if you are not interested, you want people to make a mod for you? Well not for _me_ alone obviosly, i just threw an option to air if people would want western avionics as i've seen in many real world plane.
FeistyLemur Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 It's probably coming about the same time the mod to add aim 120c capability.
Alfredson007 Posted March 11, 2016 Author Posted March 11, 2016 It's probably coming about the same time the mod to add aim 120c capability. What are you trying to say? That it's as unrealistic to have ILS/VOR gauges in Mig-21 as Amraam missiles? No, because, for example, Finnish Air Forces immediately modified their Mig21bis's to include western ADI and HSI. Talking about realism. How realistic it is to navigate with RSBN beacons in Nevada US of A? :\
Alfredson007 Posted March 11, 2016 Author Posted March 11, 2016 Okay you all got my interest, and thanks for Ramsay for his image, that helped alot. It seems to have the RMI needle with HSI needle, always pointing toward the station also the "which is tail and which is head" was a bit baffling, also it seems these needles have switched over time in updates? ALSO it helps alot when you remember to turn ARK/RSBN to latter. So yeah, it's pretty straight forward. i'd still prefer VOR/ILS but i totally understand if leatherneck is not going to do it (or modding it would be too huge job) Thanks and sorry.
FeistyLemur Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 What are you trying to say? That it's as unrealistic to have ILS/VOR gauges in Mig-21 as Amraam missiles? No, because, for example, Finnish Air Forces immediately modified their Mig21bis's to include western ADI and HSI. Talking about realism. How realistic it is to navigate with RSBN beacons in Nevada US of A? :\ I think I'm saying it's more like when guys buy an AK and jam an AR stock on it. Just not right.
GaryIKILLYOU Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 I think I'm saying it's more like when guys buy an AK and jam an AR stock on it. Just not right. This. I have my AR because it's an AR, and have my AKs because they're AKs. I can't stand seeing someone "tacticool" an AK. Just isn't kosher. My Specs:Win 10 Pro 64bit/ i7 6770K 4.5Ghz/32GB DDR4/ GTX 1070 SC/Samsung SSD Warthog Stick/TWCS Throttle/TrackIR 5
gospadin Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 What are you trying to say? That it's as unrealistic to have ILS/VOR gauges in Mig-21 as Amraam missiles? No, because, for example, Finnish Air Forces immediately modified their Mig21bis's to include western ADI and HSI. Talking about realism. How realistic it is to navigate with RSBN beacons in Nevada US of A? :\ Changing labels on a few gauges is easy. Just a texture change. Changing the in-cockpit systems is a MASSIVE undertaking. Will never happen. Adding RSBN beacons and PRMG for glideslope so you can navigate in Nevada is easy. I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader though. =P My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E
emg Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 ALSO it helps alot when you remember to turn ARK/RSBN to latter. That depends on whether you want to navigate to an RSBN or ARK beacon.
NeilWillis Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 Good luck with this one, I can't see it happening any time soon. You really think it is better to install western style navigation when the whole point of the simulation is to give you the feel for a Russian/Czech airframe? Why not just fly a western aircraft for that instead? If you can't be bothered, what makes you think a modder will be bothered to help?
Alfredson007 Posted March 13, 2016 Author Posted March 13, 2016 Good luck with this one, I can't see it happening any time soon. You really think it is better to install western style navigation when the whole point of the simulation is to give you the feel for a Russian/Czech airframe? Why not just fly a western aircraft for that instead? If you can't be bothered, what makes you think a modder will be bothered to help? In another platforms i have used to have options. To choose between HSI and traditional VOR for example. If someone likes to use 100% russian systems, fine, and somebody who wants to use, say, realistic vor beacons in nevada, he could to it too. what's wrong with that? Why people thinks i am demanding exclusive "for me only" modification to the game? I asked, is anyone with me, is there more people who wish for this too.
WildBillKelsoe Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 how accurate with banks is the course follow slanter? the dancing pole? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
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