Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 6

[Jester Darrak]

What I thought was that you had to actually bring your intel back to your base to send the bombers. Did that change with the script update? Maybe the bomber should be called in only about every 15 minutes but then it's still flying only 450kts ground speed at 24,000 feet making it vulnerable to enemy attacks and SAMs.

 

 

Couple of us were speaking in TS today and a number of us agree that the Gazelle's ability to call in bombers frequently is a tad OP. However, we think that the addition of AI bombers is a good one!

 

The Problem:

-Gazelle's can call in bombers 5 minutes after they have been destroyed

 

-Logically, it follows that the effort to stop them from doing this is far greater than the effort of the Gazelle pilot to actually do it.

 

Possible solutions:

-Longer cooldown on bombing runs

 

-Cannot call in bombing runs if the Gazelle is carrying troops to make it harder to capture FARPs and would necessitate more teamwork (which is what we believe BF is all about).

[jejsus]

We took Maykop back and it's still on 20% after an hour and a half. I see blue blue bases back up with some defenses after 20min or so... Something isn't right.

[Etherlight]

Couple of us were speaking in TS today and a number of us agree that the Gazelle's ability to call in bombers frequently is a tad OP. However, we think that the addition of AI bombers is a good one!

 

The Problem:

-Gazelle's can call in bombers 5 minutes after they have been destroyed

 

-Logically, it follows that the effort to stop them from doing this is far greater than the effort of the Gazelle pilot to actually do it.

 

Possible solutions:

-Longer cooldown on bombing runs

 

-Cannot call in bombing runs if the Gazelle is carrying troops to make it harder to capture FARPs and would necessitate more teamwork (which is what we believe BF is all about).

 

Since when can Gazelles call in bombers after they were destroyed? I never experienced that. If you die, you usually lose the intel. If you just heavily damage a Gazelle that's on the ground and don't bother to actually destroy it and kill the pilot, then yes, it can use the intel. But that's easily preventable - by shooting it.

Can a Gazelle theoretically solo a FARP? Yes, it can. But a Gazelle is practically defenseless against anything airbourne, so even a single little Huey, MI-8 or whatever can prevent the Gazelle from doing so. Not to mention that it's extremely easy to shoot down the bombers in any kind of Fighter. A Gazelle is only strong when you literally do nothing about it, so I don't really get the problem here. I flew about 15 sorties in a Gazelle with the intention to solo a FARP, 2 of them were actually successful. One a few days ago, because Blue just didn't care, one an hour ago, because the Bomber came through after the F-15 that patrolled the Area got too comfy with my IGLA and 3-4 Huey/Mi-8s were not able to prevent me from landing on the FARP. So the only thing you need to completely shut down a Gazelle is either a) An F-15 that goes for the Bomber or b) a huey that hovers over the Farp and just snipes the Gazelle with the flexi-sight when it approaches to land.

I do not see anything that's OP here.

 

And on another note, you do realize that you mostly just provide entertainment, right Jesterino?

Edited May 27, 2016 by Etherlight

[*Rage*]

I think Redfor should be grateful for M2000C , a lot of blue guys like me fly it on principal instead of just using F-15C .

 

Blue should be grateful for guys like me not flying F15C, on principal;)

[Michi]

What I thought was that you had to actually bring your intel back to your base to send the bombers.

Nope, you just call it in as soon as you are close enough to collect intel.

I really don't see a lot of issue with the bomber script, I was there for the shenanigans last night, and saw the ending of it this morning. It took around 6 bombers to get through to bomb Mykop thanks to SAM defenses and defending fighters while 2 helicopters failed to find me crash landed off the end of the runway (Still in one piece just laying on side). Today the other side took a Farp with bombing while i heard all of blue complaining but doing nothing about shooting down the bomber or setting up sams / killing the one gazelle flying around the FARP ( there was 2 to 4 choppers there who couldn't find him). There is plenty you can do to stop bombers, and I just think it was a "I'm sure someone else will switch to cap / do whatever. The only thing I would suggest is maybe increasing the amount of time between call ins, otherwise I think it works fine.

Included a Screen Shot from last night Mykop.

Edited May 27, 2016 by Michi

[Ciribob]

Not sure I've got the right Blue flag thread (seems to have really changed round here :( )

I tried out the Hawk in the OB version because someone said it can be done, and sure enough the game allowed this but the Hawk cannot be refueled. I dont know if this is related to the OB bug or the mix and match, but I was wondering if anyone else can't refuel Hawks specifically?

 

Unfortunately you're seeing this bug: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166035 in action I think? Unless its working now after todays update that is :)

 

Although DCS allows you to mix OB and release sometimes, you'll definitely see odd behaviour and desyncs if you do.

 

At the moment the Buddy Spike Blue Flag server will always be on RELEASE so to everyone, please don't connect with OB as it will cause issues for you and others!

 

Statics for all the aircraft (Bombers and recon) have now added so there should be no lag the first time any of those aircraft are spawned (other than client lag if you're next to it) which is what someone earlier reported as "lag with Hawk".

 

Also, to the forum in general... Some friendly banter is OK, but this is getting silly.... Please try to hold it back as otherwise this thread will likely be closed.

 

Lastly, servers have feelings. Don't crash them purposely or the server will keel over and die... then no one can play :)

 

[Yuya6104]

Demand and demand from Budyspike team they have best ever make a great and fun close dynamic campaign and turned this thread into a circus.

 

Anway this my last post on this thread only.

[Veritech]

When you quote ppl try to be more smarter, talk about ppl talking and not your random bs. ...about what you talking here (Huey, smoke...) i don`t care.

 

I just want to ask you - how can you not ashamed to give us advice? You, who insult people on the server chat and tell us that we are brain damaged. Or you're a immature or jerk - so do not give us advice please.

 

I hope you understand me, I tried to get down on your level of communication. And one more thing, I can ignore you forever if need be but here (in this post), I gave you a bit of attention.

 

Jester, the amount of (censored) you give to everybody in the chat is just a little bit too much. We are supposed to behave maturely and with a sense of chivalry that you just lack. The observed behaviour is not even in games like COD or Battlefield, which are great but lack the sofistication that DCS has. We all (I'm sorry for speaking for everybody in the red team but it looks like) are tired of your trolling and bragging that "you are a real pilot" and we are only "kids".

If you are so adult, just act adult. Being 32 years old, with a job related to aviation which consumes a lot of time and with my spare free time divided between my wife an DCS (with Blue Flag, I'm more DCS biased), it is really insulting that there is somebody with your behaviour going unchecked, insulting and trolling around with impunity.

 

That's it from my side, RedFalcon and Frostie, you have my support.

 

Regards,

 

Veritech

[Kozmyk]

REAL TIME WEB BASED MAP : http://opblueflag-buddyspike.rhcloud.com/

 

Isn't working for me today.

Destop App is working fine.

 

Anyone else having that problem ?

[*Rage*]

Works fine for me...

[Kozmyk]

Works fine for me...

That's weird :confused:

 

The gadget just reads "Server Offline" in Firefox, Chrome and Edge for me.

I cleared cache and cookies in browser, still "Server Offline".

 

Desktop App is working fine, no problems.

[gregzagk]

Yes there is currently an issue with the website.

Gadget works fine. You can download it from here if not already: https://dl.orangedox.com/wPjUJexWE8KQ0To1y2/install_op_BLUE_FLAG.exe

 

Working on it.

 

Server will be updated to the latest stable version during the restart of the mission.

 

Greg

[Jester Darrak]

Ladies and gentleman, here we see Jester arguing that 27 has datalink avaible in blueflag ,and he is trying to convince that leavu3 is mandatory for blue side,as it is laacking the DL.

 

I do not use leavu3, I do neither recommend nor damn it as the fact that leavu3 is a cheat or not is still debated. Why not let ED or the server hosters / mission runners decide that? Your claim is false.

[BIGNEWY]

Thread opened again.

 

I will ask you like I do my teenage boys to play nicely.

 

 

 

1.2 Forum members must treat others with respect and tolerance.

 

 

1.6 No multiplayer disputes on the ED forums, including inter-squad flamewars.

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en

 

follow the forum rules it is that simple.

Edited May 27, 2016 by BIGNEWY

[Kayos]

Is it just me or is the server showing offline for everyone?

 

http://gadget-buddyspike.rhcloud.com/

 

The desktop app seems to show it is up and running though.

 

NM< just saw the posts about this on the last page.

Edited May 27, 2016 by Kayos

[xcom]

Online map is currently offline, the server is up and running.

The online map will be up soon.

[xBuzz]

Not sure if it's been proposed before, or even viable, but how about more lives for sides which are heavily outnumbered, or less for the dominant side?

 

Love the server btw. Im relatively new DCS player and find the campaign awesome, reasons to fly every plane.

[Jester Darrak]

The problem is the tide of battle. At one time Blue is heavily and the other time red is. I don't know if a script can read out numbers to "balance" it but performance is another factor. The more scripts, the heavier the load on the server and the more it lags.

Not sure if it's been proposed before, or even viable, but how about more lives for sides which are heavily outnumbered, or less for the dominant side?

 

Love the server btw. Im relatively new DCS player and find the campaign awesome, reasons to fly every plane.

[xcom]

Nah, it is not related to the scripts or number of players, we are sure of that.

We did find something just now with the mission, we are fixing it and will check if the lag that occurs at very specific occasions is clear.

 

It was found thanks to good feedback.

Thank you!

[T_A]

Please add the new eclair pod for mirage to airfields

[Kayos]

Please add the new eclair pod for mirage to airfields

 

+1

[Sweep]

Can we get an F99th channel in the mix of Blue channels?

[Coxy_99]

Hope you red guys enjoyed my A10C attack at maykop hahaha :thumbup:

[StandingCow]

Just wanna repeat it because it can't be said enough... thank you for all you do buddyspike team. All the work you guys put in to bring the closest thing we have to a dynamic campaign is greatly appreciated. :)

[M460]

Even with all the perks handicap there's always room for ...