Parkbank Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) Hello guys, since the last update i have a severe problem with the gazelle. In this state im not able to fly the airframe. Description: The manual trim system (up, down, left, right) is inverted and if used doesnt allow proper input. Trying to trim up will put your nose down (even after only a few "clicks" on the joystick it will almost flip me over. The only option to achieve level flight is to manually hold your stick in the right position. DCS Version: 1.5.5.58891 Steam: - Map: Black Sea Map SP/MP: SP and MP Reproducible: Everytime i fly around in the Gazelle (from MP sessions: not everyone seems to be affected by this issue) Step to Reproduce: Normal start up (gazelle cold start tutorial) -> take off -> try trimming Controllers: X55, but problem also occured using keyboard input. OS: Windows 7 Hope this will get fixed soon. Greetings Parkbank Edited November 23, 2016 by Parkbank
Mt5_Roie Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Will add it to my tests this week and report back. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Parkbank Posted November 23, 2016 Author Posted November 23, 2016 FYI: I reinstalled the module and deleted my bindings in the savedgames/dcs folder. Nothing helped. Also not everyone seems to be influenced by this bug. Next step would be a complete reinstallation of DCS. But i rather would not do that unless im sure it would fix the issue. Regards
jjohnson241 Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Same Issue here with Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog and VKB Rudder Pedals, Single Player, DCS 1.5.5 Public release and BETA Release. I7-6700K, 32GB RAM, GTX 1070 4GB. Pitch and Roll trim axes are reversed. I also noticed that after I applied the magnetic brake trim, then released the trim, I could not apply Magnetic Trim again. I don't think that's correct. Magnetic Trim should be enabled and released as many times as desired. I noticed the trim problem was initially reported over 9 days ago and Trouble Tickets were issued. What's the status, Please? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 3rd Mar Div RVN '66-'67
Mt5_Roie Posted November 24, 2016 Posted November 24, 2016 It's on the test schedule for this week. Once we test it on our version with debugging on we can narrow the issue down and fix it. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
jjohnson241 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Now that the Gazelle has been restored in DCS 2 NTTR, the Trim problem is now affecting DCS 1.5.5 and DCS 2.0.4 - NTTR. Any news from the scheduled test? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 3rd Mar Div RVN '66-'67
jjohnson241 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 trim problem The Trim problem described here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=177452 is affecting the Gazelle in the DCS 2 -NTTR also. Anyone else having this problem? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 3rd Mar Div RVN '66-'67
myHelljumper Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Hey johnson, this bug is already reported no need to bring it everywhere ;) Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
jjohnson241 Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Hey johnson, this bug is already reported no need to bring it everywhere ;) The bug was reported to be in DCS 1.5.5. I wanted Poly to understand that the bug was also in DCS 2.0. Also, this bug is serious IMO and in the opinion of others affected. The bug was reported 10 days ago and no word yet other than it's on this weeks test schedule, I assume to verify that the bug is "real". Finally, 10 days is more than a reasonable length of time in terms of waiting to hear from the developer . So, guilty for "spreading it around". ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 3rd Mar Div RVN '66-'67
Mt5_Roie Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 We understand. Looking into it. Still on the list for this weeks test flight and should be done soon. After that we can start working on a fix. The bug was reported to be in DCS 1.5.5. I wanted Poly to understand that the bug was also in DCS 2.0. Also, this bug is serious IMO and in the opinion of others affected. The bug was reported 10 days ago and no word yet other than it's on this weeks test schedule, I assume to verify that the bug is "real". Finally, 10 days is more than a reasonable length of time in terms of waiting to hear from the developer . So, guilty for "spreading it around". ;) Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 26, 2016 ED Team Posted November 26, 2016 threads merged Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
jjohnson241 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Hi, This thread (https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=176981) should be moved here. Any news on the tests that were scheduled for last week? Thanks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 3rd Mar Div RVN '66-'67
jjohnson241 Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Found the answer: The USE FF option was on in all three of my DCS installs. I know I had it off but I have no idea when it crept back to "on". Anyhow, clear that option and all is well with the Trim. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 3rd Mar Div RVN '66-'67
Parkbank Posted December 2, 2016 Author Posted December 2, 2016 Found the answer: The USE FF option was on in all three of my DCS installs. I know I had it off but I have no idea when it crept back to "on". Anyhow, clear that option and all is well with the Trim. :) Would be awesome if that is the problem! Ill test it out immediately. Must have been the last update turning it on by default. I never touched that option....
trigen Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Turning off FFB does fix it yes. I hope this will get sorted quite soon so we can have working FFB with the trims. Now its reversed. The stick moves a mile when you trim and the FFB stick just stays the same. 1080 ti, i7700k 5ghz, 16gb 3600 cl14 ddr4 oc
gabelcz Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Trim Problem It's still broken. At least for me. Disabling FF didn't solve the problem. Devs, do something...
Zimmerdylan Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 It's still broken. At least for me. Disabling FF didn't solve the problem. Devs, do something... Try going back and turning the FFB on, getting out of the game, then going back in , turning it off again, and going back out of the game. Then come back in. Sometimes it doesn't switch off correctly. It may not work, but it may work. It has for me in the past. But yes...the issue is quite annoying. Especially what trigen is talking about. It'll get fixed.
gabelcz Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 Trim fix release date? Can i hope, that there will be released fix for the trim on today's update?
VooDoo-S8 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Just encountered this bug, little bit of a pain in the ass! Any news on a fix? My rig - I5 6600k @ 4.5 - Corsair H100i GTX - Maximus Hero viii - 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum ROG edition DDR4 3200mhz - Gigabyte 1080ti (Overclocked) - TM Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Rudder pedals - Oculus Rift CV1
Vlerkies Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Polychop on comms lockdown. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=183142 Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
jeffdude Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Polychop on comms lockdown. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=183142 I tried the gazelle today and it felt like a forgotten step child. That sound bug was still there and trim didn't function at all, the buttons did make it fly strange, but I had no indication of normal trim. Trim switch and mag break were both enabled, so not sure what was up. It flew strange and the sound bug was very annoying. The trim just is odd, or doesn't work. All on a fresh install on a new computer. other aircraft seem ok. I understand that PC has made a "statement" but now it seems the purchase is no good.We have no clear indication what is up with PC and no timeline for when this thing can get fixed up. I get there are some legal things involved, but to stay completely silent, I don't appreciate that at all, just seems out of place for a product that is getting degraded as time goes on. Please please do not send the hate my way for expressing my displeasure. I think I have done it in a respectful manner, as well as realizing that my opinions are my own. edit: After several attempts to disable FF (force feedback) since i'm on an x52pro, the setting finally stuck, and for at least one flight now, I got trim back to normal. I still wish there was a warning to disable that feature or a default since a majority of us don't have FF, especially since they don't make them anymore! Edited March 30, 2017 by jeffdude added info [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jnr4817 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 I also have had trim issues. My trim buttons were revered and I had to remap all of them on the POV hat. Second the magnetic trim does not function at all. 9800x3d|64 GB 6200|4090|m.2 x2 http://www.blacksharkden.com/ Come join us!
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