Buzzles Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 Official announcement: here. I suppose this isn't really much of an issue anymore, considering they sold their flight sim side (Saitek) over to Logitech back in September 2016. Still a bit of a shame to see another hardware manufacturer go bump. I hear their mice and fightsticks (for Streetfighter and the like) are actually half decent. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here!
SkateZilla Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 I've had nothing but Build quality issues with the Concole Controllers. Selling Off Saitek was the nail in their coffin Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
dburne Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Hate to see that, but seeing how Saitek went downhill after Mad Catz got them I guess not surprising. They seemed to let quality go by the wayside. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Flying Penguin Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Long time coming, but still a shame, their R.A.T. mice are the most comfortable mice I've ever used... That they look like the bastard love child of a Lamborghini and Barricade was merely a happy coincidence. Edited April 4, 2017 by Flying Penguin Per Ardua Ad Aquarium :drink: Specs: Intel i7-9700K, GTX 2080TI, 32GB DDR4, ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E, Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2
Headwarp Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) My only experience with Saitek brand products is when they were owned by MadCatz. That being said I took a vow of Never Saitek Again long before Logitech bought saitek up. Maybe under Logitech's belt they will improve their quality control and software issues, but after my saitek experience.. I invested in peripherals I likely won't need to replace given proper TLC. I actually enjoyed the rubberized grip and potential functionality of the x52 pro, unfortunately, potentiometers and plastic screw threads didn't hold up, and to be honest I never did the magnet mod and never really flew well with it. Most of my logitech products have generally been pretty solid. A few bad apples here and there.. but I'm hoping Logitech + Saitek ends up being an improvement on Saitek's quality and Logitech's ingenuity. Personally, while it sucks that people may be out of jobs.. I will not miss Mad Catz. IMO when shopping for my msffb2 on ebay I read some articles about how when MS announced discontinuing the sidewinder series it was due to the amount of competition on the market. From my viewpoint - Microsoft HAD no real competition. Even if made by plastic their sticks were mostly tanks. This second hand msffb2 that is getting near 2 decades old is my most accurate stick.. and still the best FFB joystick ever produced as far as I'm concerned. Microsoft was it's own competition. When I first started the MS Sidewinder 3d pro was the favorite. they made the precision pro and nobody liked it..so they discontinued the 3d pro and upon that announcement people bought them off the shelves til out of stock...stock piling 2-5 joysticks a piece.. my family even had extras for the 3 of us. The next real gem they had was their FFB stick.. then the MSFFB2, which people bought multiples of on the annoucement of discontinuation just like the 3d pro. I recently acquired an unused one someone finally decided to offload after all this time. With what they've done to the gaming community since "xbox" I hate to admit it... but at one point MS were the leaders of Innovation in the technical world. 15 years later the FFB in the msffb2 is still miles ahead of anything the competition put out. The stick lacks the excess of buttons we've grown accustomed to and people have taken to modding it... but I certainly wish MS would've paid attention to the sticks that flew off the shelves once people discovered we didn't have access to them anymore. I wish they still at least sold and supported this one stick if nothing else.. and perhaps added more buttons on the stick surface or interchangeable grips. But at least it's still a tank. Of the two I own.. one looks like someone may have chewed on the grip..scuffs indicating she took a bit of a beating. Works FINE. Edited April 5, 2017 by Headwarp Spoiler Win 11 Pro, z790 i9 13900k, RTX 4090 , 64GB DDR 6400GB, OS and DCS are on separate pci-e 4.0 drives Sim hardware - VKB MCG Ultimate with 200mm extension, Virpil T-50CM3 Dual throttles. Blackhog B-explorer (A), TM Cougar MFD's (two), MFG Crosswinds with dampener. Obutto R3volution gaming pit.
Nooch Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 I've had their combat rudder pedal set for a while and boy was it flimsy and totally overpriced for what it was. The brake axis was jittery as hell and finally broke after a year of use. These guys didn't know what they were doing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ce_Zeta Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Very sad. But that's happen when the Board of Directors madehis strategy only with inputs from excel sheets. Cold numbers. I am dreaming with a rebranded Logitech X-65 with a minor redesign. [sIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/YexElgV.jpg[/sIGPIC]
Demon_ Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 I had a R.A.T 7. I lost the dpi switch after one month, and had double-clicking (when you single-clicking) on the left button after 5 months. Now she play in the garbage like a rat. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Mars Exulte Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Sayonara and good riddance, imo. While the X-55 I have has been pretty reliable, everything else reeked of cheesy and poor design. Makes way for more VKB, Virpil, and Thrustmaster gear! Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
myHelljumper Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 X-55 : Drivers killed my file system and sticky throttle axis -> Sent back. X-52 : Software keep stuck sending keyboard input crashing the computer -> Sent back. Combat Rudder : After 1 year 2 axis on 3 gone mad -> To the trash (All of the above were produced by Mad-Catz) Wathog : The left throttle button died recently but Thrustmaster is sending me another one for free. -> Stick, driver and software are great. CH Pro-pedal : Working great -> Better feel than the Combat Rudder, also cheaper. I hope they sort their issues but I won't buy anything more coming from Saitek. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Sokol1_br Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Maybe under Logitech's belt they will improve their quality control and software issues, Don't forget that Logitech don't did this for their own G-940 - a product without direct concurrent, a Force Feedback HOTAS with pedals - and this product end rapid killed on the market due QC/manufacturing shortcomings issues (low cost pot, short wires bugged firmware...). Not too different than MadCatz. Edited April 6, 2017 by Sokol1_br
joey45 Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 And that's the imho the only bad apple I have had from Logi. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Dudikoff Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 I've had varying experience with the Saitek products, their midrange HOTAS, panels and pedals were decent for the price (e.g. the X-36 or X52Pro, though they cheaped out too much on the rotaries), their cheaper stuff can be decent or borderline unusable (like the AV8R) and their high end stuff is quite good (X-65). The only actual MadCatz products I've seen were bad (a RAT9 which straight out died within a year to a friend and some mobile phone wireless gamepad I got whose buttons are super low quality out of the box). i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
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