Guide - Enhancing head movement on TrackIR

[JEFX]

Snacko, the problem for me is that after I do this, whenever I activate (unpause) my TrackIr, the view reverts back to what it was before... (much too zoomed in for me)...

[BiBa]

...I tried it today and it does work, this is the section name for the F-18: C:\Users\Papito\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\View\Server.lua..."This folder is automatically created when we define a SnapView, but if it has not been created yet, we can create it manually"...

The path I found is different:

C:\Users\BiBa\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Input\FA-18C_hornet.

There is no Config\View file. In my Config there is only the Input file and its backup.

In it are the classic fours: joystick, keyboard, mouse, trackir.

Only the joystick folder is occupied with files.

So could not find neither the server.lua nor the View.lua.

To create it manually you say, we should define a Snapview.

How do you you do that to create a View.lua data?

[Snacko]

Snacko, the problem for me is that after I do this, whenever I activate (unpause) my TrackIr, the view reverts back to what it was before... (much too zoomed in for me)...

I disable the Z axis in trackir.

 

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[Rudel_chw]

The path I found is different:

C:\Users\BiBa\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Input\FA-18C_hornet.

There is no Config\View file. In my Config there is only the Input file and its backup.

 

When freshly installed, DCS will create a folder on Saved Games to store all the user's data & configuration. Normally this folder is named saved games\dcs .. but on your case its \saved games\dcs.openbeta.

 

Some of its sub-folders are created by DCS when needed, for example the ScreenShots folder isnt there, but DCS will create it if you take a screenshot while running DCS.

 

Same happens with the \Config\Input folder, it gets created when you use Options -> Controls to assign functions to your Hotas.

 

To create it manually you say, we should define a Snapview.

How do you you do that to create a View.lua data?

 

Yes, the \Config\View folder is created by DCS the first time you save a snapview. If you dont know how to create snapviews, you can just use the Windows File Explorer to create the folder.

 

Now, the file we need to edit in order to customize the 6DOF parameter isnt View.lua ... it's Server.lua, and its located within DCS program files folder ... the path is:

 

\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Config\View

 

There, use Windows to copy the file server.lua into the View folder I described previously ... this is described in detail on the first posts of this thread.

 

Best regards

[JEFX]

Cant really test it, since I have a single monitor and mostly fly with Oculus ... but try to add this line on the F-18 section of Server.lua:

 

 

CameraViewAngleLimits = {50.000000,190.000000},

 

 

The default is 20,140

 

 

Hope it works better than your current setup :)

 

 

Wow! Rudel, that did it!!!

First I did as you said and copied the view lines in server.lua from the view.lua file as you said, named it correctly (took a couple of tries) and nothing worked... now I did what you just said and LO it works! What I understand now is that those 2 numbers 20 and 140 are the lower and upper limits of the zoom axis and the default view is in the middle! therefore before I had something like 80 degrees (too close in my setup) and now with 50 and 190 my default view is now something like 120, just what I wanted!!!

 

good to know!! thanks!

[Rudel_chw]

Wow! Rudel, that did it!!!

... thanks!

 

 

Glad that you got it working :)

Cheers!

[Devrim]

...Its in \Mods\aircraft\AJS37\Entry\

Oh! My bad.

Thanks a lot, mate.

:)

[Scotch75]

Hey Folks, many thanks for this guide and discussion. One question though:

 

How do I get my TrackIR centre (run through TrackIR software) to be the same as my default view? After using zoom in/out to look for ground movers, I'd like to just hit my TrackIR centre keypress to return to default view/FOV.

 

Cheers!

[Nealius]

On my PC, I have this entry on the Server.lua:

 

 

The commented 6DOF line is the stock setting, the uncomented is my custom values. Just tried them and it does work, but dont have time right now to make a video of it :)

 

 

Best regards

 

It appears my Server.lua file in Saved Games is no longer working with DCS. My F-86 6DOF limits, which worked before, no longer work now. CameraTerrainRestriction changes also won't work.

[Scotch75]

It appears my Server.lua file in Saved Games is no longer working with DCS. My F-86 6DOF limits, which worked before, no longer work now. CameraTerrainRestriction changes also won't work.

Yeah, I was wondering which server.lua file (location) takes precedence. The default one, or the .../saved games/... one? Could they be conflicting?

[Nealius]

Previously the Saved Games one was overriding the default one. Then I installed Persian Gulf and all of a sudden the default overrides the Saved Games. I'll have to try a repair, then ask for help in the Bugs section if I can't get it fixed.

[BiBa]

When freshly installed, DCS will create a folder on Saved Games to store all the user's data & configuration. Normally this folder is named saved games\dcs .. but on your case its \saved games\dcs.openbeta…

Got it - Thanks!

 

The DOF Standard for FA-18C are:

limits_6DOF = {x = {-0.13,0.30},y ={-0.3,0.065},z = {-0.18,0.18},roll = 90.000000},

 

Anybody knows what setting is recommended to lean forward very close to the gauges?

Edited October 8, 2018 by Biba

[Frag]

WOW ... this thing should me made a sticky. It is vital information when using head tracking. I was really disappointed of not being able to see any switches while moving forward in my seat. I understand the idea of being realistic, but this feature is rather more of an annoying limitation if we cannot see the label switches.

 

I think that by default DCS should let head tracking software user zooming in on the switches by moving forward/backward.

 

NICE WORK HERE! I will try it out tonight for sure.

[GregP]

How do I get my TrackIR centre (run through TrackIR software) to be the same as my default view? After using zoom in/out to look for ground movers, I'd like to just hit my TrackIR centre keypress to return to default view/FOV.

 

Just set your TrackIR 'center' keypress to be the same key that is assigned to the 'zoom normal' function within DCS.

[Scotch75]

Just set your TrackIR 'center' keypress to be the same key that is assigned to the 'zoom normal' function within DCS.

Cheers @GregP. But which application will take precedence? Or does the "zoom normal" (NUM ENTER key) centre the view as well?

[Frag]

Anyone was able to do this with the L-39 ? I like trackhat so far but reading switches label is a pain.

 

Before trackhat I was using zoom with the mouse wheel... but now with track hat all switches are so far away that it is always a pain to try to read those.

[ThorBrasil]

OK, I've just tested it and can tell you that on my DCS the customization does work ... this is the MiG-15 with the standard 6DOF:

 

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and this is the same, but customizing the 6DOF parameter on server.lua:

 

 

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I'm attaching my server.lua, so you can try it out on your DCS.

Best regards

 

 

 

 

Eduardo

 

Thank you so much for this great work. The F-14 is coming! :music_whistling:

[ThorBrasil]

OK, I've just tested it and can tell you that on my DCS the customization does work ... this is the MiG-15 with the standard 6DOF:

 

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and this is the same, but customizing the 6DOF parameter on server.lua:

 

 

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I'm attaching my server.lua, so you can try it out on your DCS.

Best regards

 

 

 

 

Eduardo

can you make your current version of server.lua available? Thank you!

[Rudel_chw]

can you make your current version of server.lua available? Thank you!

 

Certainly, though the only aircraft that I've recently adjusted is the MiG-29 :)

Cheers!

Server.lua

[ThorBrasil]

Certainly, though the only aircraft that I've recently adjusted is the MiG-29 :)

Cheers!

 

Thank You!

[Roundlay]

Anyone was able to do this with the L-39 ? I like trackhat so far but reading switches label is a pain.

 

Before trackhat I was using zoom with the mouse wheel... but now with track hat all switches are so far away that it is always a pain to try to read those.

I'd love to know if anyone has had any luck with the L-39 too. Not being able to get up close on those Russian switches is a real bummer, and I haven't been able to get this to work.

 

Addit: the trick to getting this to work is adding the relevant files to a new folder within Config called View. After copying and pasting the default_fighter_player method from the A-10 into a custom ViewSettings container, this is all working beautifully now.

Edited December 4, 2018 by Roundlay

[Nealius]

Is this possible with the Su-25A? The entries for Su-25 and Su-25T do not include a 6DOF line, however the Su-25TM does. Changing the Su-25TM 6DOF limits does not change the Su-25A. The Su-25A entry.lua file also does not have a "make_view_setting" line either, but I tried creating a new view entry using "Su-25" with a 6DOF line. That failed to work as well.

[Rudel_chw]

Is this possible with the Su-25A? The entries for Su-25 and Su-25T do not include a 6DOF line ..

 

 

Yes, its possible ... this is the stock 6DOF movement:

 

 

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I added this line on the "Su-25" section of my Saved Games Server.lua:

 

 

ViewSettings["Su-25"] = {
Cockpit = {
[1] = default_fighter_player({CockpitLocalPoint = {3.352000,0.506000,0.000000},
        limits_6DOF     = {x = {-0.050000,0.5000000},y ={-0.400000,0.120000},z = {-0.220000,0.220000},roll = 90.000000}}),-- player slot 1
}, -- Cockpit  

 

 

(just the limits_6DOF statement is needed). I tried to enhance the movement by adding a bit more crunch space and a little more of forward movement, the results are this:

 

 

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Here is the whole "Su-25" section, in case you dont have any of it:

 

 

ViewSettings["Su-25"] = {
Cockpit = {
[1] = default_fighter_player({CockpitLocalPoint = {3.352000,0.506000,0.000000},
        limits_6DOF     = {x = {-0.050000,0.5000000},y ={-0.400000,0.120000},z = {-0.220000,0.220000},roll = 90.000000}}),-- player slot 1
}, -- Cockpit 
Chase = {
 LocalPoint      = {-0.348000,2.906000,0.000000},
 AnglesDefault   = {180.000000,-8.000000},
}, -- Chase 
Arcade = {
 LocalPoint      = {-16.648001,5.506000,0.000000},
 AnglesDefault   = {0.000000,-8.000000},
}, -- Arcade 
}

 

 

Best regards

[Nealius]

Got it working, thanks. An interesting note on the FC3 aircraft view settings is that track files are saved with whatever 6DOF limits you have at the time you flew the mission.

[speed-of-heat]

I can get this to work with the F18, in vr, thanks.

 

but the pilots head default position seems... "wrongly" positioned on the body, any idea how to change it