Shack Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Guess you found out about the good things with fpsVR ? Anyone heard any info about how the covid-19 affects the 8KX ? Got this response two days ago about 8KX Thanks for your massage and sorry to have kept you waiting. 8K X does not ship with deluxe head strap,8K X first batch build expected April 2nd and the delivery dates haven't been confirmed. About MAS delivers,goal is very high volume production during the summer with numerous smaller batches deliveries leading up to summer. If any update,we will announce it on Pimax forum.Have a good day! Best regards Sally For the record, I have no knowledge of massaging anyone for this answer ...:megalol: Intel i9 7980XE @4.4Hz 64GB DDR4 RAM at 2666MHz GTX 1080Ti with 11GB GDDR5X Reverb Pro HMD HOTAS: TM Warthog throttle / TM F18 Grip Dual H640P Huion tablets used with VRK (Virtual Kneeboard ) software Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker DOF Reality P6, 6 axis Motion Platform [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callsign.Vega Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) They say summer, so really means fall. I've been waiting almost three years for my 8K-X, with a 5K+ (which is terrible) loaner sitting in my closet for the last year. I used that loaner like five times and the case is already cracked, how pathetic. My desire for the 8K-X that I backed has dropped considerably seeing as they went all the way down to 75 Hz... The original 8K-X that I backed during the kickstarter was supposed to have two DP 1.4 cables and run at 90 Hz. I may just end up selling it and wait for the Reverb 2.0. Edited April 7, 2020 by Callsign.Vega GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIGA_HORSE Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) This might be a stupid question, but I'm a total noob when it comes to vr. I'm debating between pimax 5k and hp reverb, but leaning towards pimax. If I do get pimax, will I need the base station to use it in dcs, I'm not planning to use vr for other games. Except dcs and maybe other simulators. Edited April 14, 2020 by GIGA_HORSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Emblin Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 This might be a stupid question, but I'm a total noob when it comes to vr. I'm debating between pimax 5k and hp reverb, but leaning towards pimax. If I do get pimax, will I need the base station to use it in dcs, I'm not planning to use vr for other games. Except dcs and maybe other simulators. It is possible to use a Pimax without lighthouses but you will only get 3 DoF, for the full effect of wonderful 6 DoF you need at least one lighthouse either version 1 or 2. You may find an old version 1 on ebay as I did over a year ago. You don't need more than one if you're doing sedentary simming like flying or racing/driving. The Pimax does not have inside-out tracking so you need to use an external source. - 'The Dog's Rollocks' - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] is a water cooled behemoth : i9 9900K@5GHz/RTX 2080Ti/32 Gb 3600MHz RAM/M.2 NVMe onboard drives/System driving Pimax 5K Plus/TM Warthog/MFG Crosswind/Gametrix Jetseat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shack Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I’m only getting anywhere from 13-25ish FPS with my 5k+ Besides the shader Mod, is there a list of settings Somewhere that I should be going through to get better performance ? I don’t see a Sticky specific to 5k+. Thanks Intel i9 7980XE @4.4Hz 64GB DDR4 RAM at 2666MHz GTX 1080Ti with 11GB GDDR5X Reverb Pro HMD HOTAS: TM Warthog throttle / TM F18 Grip Dual H640P Huion tablets used with VRK (Virtual Kneeboard ) software Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker DOF Reality P6, 6 axis Motion Platform [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefuneste01 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I’m only getting anywhere from 13-25ish FPS with my 5k+ Besides the shader Mod, is there a list of settings Somewhere that I should be going through to get better performance ? I don’t see a Sticky specific to 5k+. Thanks No AA or MSAA or other, no parallel projection, no SS in DCS, small FoV and set pitool+steamVR settings to have roughly 2100x2100 pixels. You should have ~40fps which is enough for Smart smoothing if you set the pimax to 72 hz. And forget the beta, it kills too much fps. P8700K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, HP reverb Pro. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Emblin Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 This is good advice, the OpenBeta is currently proving very unfriendly towards VR and DCS generally seems poorly optimized for that environment. Hopefully in time this will change. - 'The Dog's Rollocks' - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] is a water cooled behemoth : i9 9900K@5GHz/RTX 2080Ti/32 Gb 3600MHz RAM/M.2 NVMe onboard drives/System driving Pimax 5K Plus/TM Warthog/MFG Crosswind/Gametrix Jetseat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIGA_HORSE Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 It is possible to use a Pimax without lighthouses but you will only get 3 DoF, for the full effect of wonderful 6 DoF you need at least one lighthouse either version 1 or 2. You may find an old version 1 on ebay as I did over a year ago. You don't need more than one if you're doing sedentary simming like flying or racing/driving. The Pimax does not have inside-out tracking so you need to use an external source. Thanks for reply. will one station be able to track if I turn my head all the way back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hamburgler Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) I’m only getting anywhere from 13-25ish FPS with my 5k+ Besides the shader Mod, is there a list of settings Somewhere that I should be going through to get better performance ? I don’t see a Sticky specific to 5k+. Thanks I am getting a solid 60 FPS on the ground and in air with my 5K plus with MSAA on. Here is a quick setup of mine. In Pitool I set it to 120hz then normal FOV. Pitool rendering to 1.5 then GPU catalyst to 10. In steamVR I leave the rendering to Auto which should be like 46%. In game the pixel density is at 1, textures and terrain textures at high, water and viable range at low, shadows low and MSAA on 2x. I also did everything in this and his second video. With this setup I think it looks pretty good and i maintain a solid 60 FPS on SP Missions. Only tested in the A-10 and in a couple missions. I could defiantly go more in depth but I also need to test it a little more as i have not touched DCS in about a year. I am also using the BETA version of DCS which after reading apparently kills FPS in VR. Edited April 14, 2020 by A Hamburgler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shack Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) No AA or MSAA or other, no parallel projection, no SS in DCS, small FoV and set pitool+steamVR settings to have roughly 2100x2100 pixels. You should have ~40fps which is enough for Smart smoothing if you set the pimax to 72 hz. And forget the beta, it kills too much fps. I'm definitely going to try this now. I have to figure out how to run the main DCS program vs the OB which my desktop shortcut points to. I am getting a solid 60 FPS on the ground and in air with my 5K plus with MSAA on. Here is a quick setup of mine. In Pitool I set it to 120hz then normal FOV. Pitool rendering to 1.5 then GPU catalyst to 10. In steamVR I leave the rendering to Auto which should be like 46%. In game the pixel density is at 1, textures and terrain textures at high, water and viable range at low, shadows low and MSAA on 2x. I also did everything in this and his second video. With this setup I think it looks pretty good and i maintain a solid 60 FPS on SP Missions. Only tested in the A-10 and in a couple missions. I could defiantly go more in depth but I also need to test it a little more as i have not touched DCS in about a year. I am also using the BETA version of DCS which after reading apparently kills FPS in VR. I will certainly try this. I'll have to retrace my steps in those two videos and make sure I'm getting the shaders actually activated through JGSME. thanks ! Follow up Questions: 1. Do you all recommend PiTool SS on ? 2. VR prerendered frames in NVIDIA Control panel ? I've selected "Use 3d Application Settings" Edited April 14, 2020 by Shack Intel i9 7980XE @4.4Hz 64GB DDR4 RAM at 2666MHz GTX 1080Ti with 11GB GDDR5X Reverb Pro HMD HOTAS: TM Warthog throttle / TM F18 Grip Dual H640P Huion tablets used with VRK (Virtual Kneeboard ) software Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker DOF Reality P6, 6 axis Motion Platform [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captflyby Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I followed "A Hamburgler's" advice to the letter. My fps went from 29 to 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dureiken Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Hi for simmers who have Pimax 5k+, do you achieve to see HUD/MFD in F18 plane without zooming/going forward with your head ? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hamburgler Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) I followed "A Hamburgler's" advice to the letter. My fps went from 29 to 60. Haha glad it worked. The thing to keep in mind is with GPU catalyst when the frames fall below 60 or the frames just jump around the screen will jump around in VR. But from my testing I was getter by a locked 60 frames. What I was thinking was that if you lowered it 90hz the frames will get locked at 45 and then you can turn the setting up for better visuals. So basically you need to have steady frames for this to work. Edited April 16, 2020 by A Hamburgler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hamburgler Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I'm definitely going to try this now. I have to figure out how to run the main DCS program vs the OB which my desktop shortcut points to. I will certainly try this. I'll have to retrace my steps in those two videos and make sure I'm getting the shaders actually activated through JGSME. thanks ! Follow up Questions: 1. Do you all recommend PiTool SS on ? 2. VR prerendered frames in NVIDIA Control panel ? I've selected "Use 3d Application Settings" Don’t know what SS is on PiTool and I used 3 for pre rendered frames in the control panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman222 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 @ Hamburgler : The only thing I cant follow with my nVidia GPU is the GPU Catalyst setting, as I have the nVidia control panel. What would be the equivalent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitallini Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 GPU catalyst setting is in pitools (software for pimax headsets). There is no equivalent in Nvidia control panel as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman222 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I have the latest Pitool which is 1.0.1.255 but I cant find this option. I thought it might be an AMD thing. Where can this setting be found in Pitool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Hi for simmers who have Pimax 5k+, do you achieve to see HUD/MFD in F18 plane without zooming/going forward with your head ? thanks Yes,Hud and MFD[except maybe moving Map] are clear and readable without zoom. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dureiken Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Yes,Hud and MFD[except maybe moving Map] are clear and readable without zoom. thanks Moving map is'nt readable with Reverb too, I have to remove the map to see writings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hamburgler Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I have the latest Pitool which is 1.0.1.255 but I cant find this option. I thought it might be an AMD thing. Where can this setting be found in Pitool? it is right under the rendering scale option in pitool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazansky222 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) I am getting a solid 60 FPS on the ground and in air with my 5K plus with MSAA on. Here is a quick setup of mine. In Pitool I set it to 120hz then normal FOV. Pitool rendering to 1.5 then GPU catalyst to 10. In steamVR I leave the rendering to Auto which should be like 46%. In game the pixel density is at 1, textures and terrain textures at high, water and viable range at low, shadows low and MSAA on 2x. I also did everything in this and his second video. With this setup I think it looks pretty good and i maintain a solid 60 FPS on SP Missions. Only tested in the A-10 and in a couple missions. I could defiantly go more in depth but I also need to test it a little more as i have not touched DCS in about a year. I am also using the BETA version of DCS which after reading apparently kills FPS in VR. I did exactly what you did, and I am getting locked 60 fps now, feels very smooth, but I'm getting double vision in both eyes, as in, even if I close 1 eye, that single display is doing double vision. *edit* fixed double vision by setting nvidia control panel pre-rendered frame to 3 Edited April 20, 2020 by Kazansky222 fixed [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitallini Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I can't make sense about the current pimax with dcs. When I use ASW I need to put supersampling so high my GPU is at 96-97 utilization to get DCS to "stick" to 60 FPS. At that level of SS it does not leave much headroom. If I lower the SS to have some more headroom my GPU utilization is at 70 percent, but my FPS never stays at 60 FPS. The FPS is dead set on staying just under 60 FPS (around 58 ) so ASW gets deactivated. Or it decides to try to go for 120 Hz without ASW. Of course that ain't happening so I get mostly too little FPS with some optimistic jumps above 60. This in part is because pimax don't allow for choosing ASW always on. Still the main problem is getting DCS to stay at 60 FPS with 70-80 percent GPU utilization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 You can set a framerate limiter in Nvidea settings . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitallini Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 You can set a framerate limiter in Nvidea settings . Well darn, that worked! It not only solved the high fps jumps, but also got it stable at 60 with lower gpu utilization. Thanks bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 :thumbup: 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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