HuggyBear Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 The NVG image occupies the full screen rendered in the Rift. This provides an excessive FOV (haven't measured but seems to be greater than RL 40 degree FOV rendered by NVG) and also prevents me from easily reading the aircraft gauges and screens, which would normally be read by looking 'under' the NVGs. - Bear Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. - Robert A. Heinlein
Ziptie Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 The NVG image occupies the full screen rendered in the Rift. This provides an excessive FOV (haven't measured but seems to be greater than RL 40 degree FOV rendered by NVG) and also prevents me from easily reading the aircraft gauges and screens, which would normally be read by looking 'under' the NVGs. - Bear +1, but probably difficult to get that depth effect... i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
Deano87 Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Yeah this makes the new implimentation of NVGs almost useless in VR as you can't read any of gauges without turning them off... :/ Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
lemoen Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 +1 Should be an easy enough fix, just make the fov a bit smaller so we can peek underneath
Deano87 Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 +1 Should be an easy enough fix, just make the fov a bit smaller so we can peek underneath Hehe.. without any knowledge of how the VR NVG system setup works currently I think its a bit difficult to come to a conclusion on how easy a fix it would be. You have the issue of using zoom to read MFDs etc.. you'll zoom into the centre of the view so the area you'll me "peeking" to will no longer be visible... placing you in the exact same situation as we are in now :/ Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
AMEDooley Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Hehe.. without any knowledge of how the VR NVG system setup works currently I think its a bit difficult to come to a conclusion on how easy a fix it would be. You have the issue of using zoom to read MFDs etc.. you'll zoom into the centre of the view so the area you'll me "peeking" to will no longer be visible... placing you in the exact same situation as we are in now :/ Actually it’s really simple. The new NVG system is identical to Frenchy’s mod and it’s just a couple lines in the code that dictate how big the NVG’s take up on the screen. You just need to add a slider to scale it in the options menu which will be more difficult. But the actual size change is relatively easy. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Deano87 Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Just found this in a seperate thread. Might be useful to some. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3394085&postcount=13 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Danzer Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 Btw, it is totally not possible to read the gauges in NVG mode..true But with NVG, it is also no longer possible to use your Brrrrrt gun either. The HUD in NVG mode is ONE BIG BLURRY square. Impposible to "see" your target. And yes, this was possible in 2.2.1............. :shocking: Dell XPS 8700: 28" DELL S2817Q 3840pi, i7-4790 3.6 GHz, 16 GB RAM, RTX 2070 Super, Windows 10, SSD 1 TB, HDD 2 TB + 32 GB SSD, TM HOTAS, Oculus Rift S. Repetition is the Mother of All Skills:matrix: [sIGPIC]<a href="http://www.flyfighterjet.com/" target="_blank"></a>[/sIGPIC]
Zarma Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 Btw, it is totally not possible to read the gauges in NVG mode..true But with NVG, it is also no longer possible to use your Brrrrrt gun either. The HUD in NVG mode is ONE BIG BLURRY square. Impposible to "see" your target. And yes, this was possible in 2.2.1............. :shocking: Dont use night mode and it works, at least with DS on. i9 9900k, 64 Go RAM, RTX 4090, Warthog HOTAS Throttle & Stick, Virpil AH64 collective, TPR rudder, MFD Cougar, Trackir 5 Pro, Multipurpose UFC, Alain Dufour's TEDAC and Oculus Rift S (when I want some VR), http://www.twitch.tv/zarma4074 / https://www.youtube.com/user/Zarma4074
Buckeye Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 ...this is how NVG actually work in real life, you won't be able to read your gauges bc it's range is set to the far distance for what you're looking out of your canopy out at. Not a bug, just realistic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
itarrow Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Second that: even comms menus aren't visible with NVG on now...
DowntownSIX Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Second that: even comms menus aren't visible with NVG on now... +1 No menus of any kind, or subtitles, or kneeboards. I ended up here after an AV-8B night mission in NTTR which included low level flying and was almost impossible as to see any gauges I had to remove my NVG (due to them occupying the whole FoV in VR) which made avoiding mountains pretty tricky, so I ended up in this NVG on/NVG off dance. Let's lower the FoV on the NGV effect so we can 'look under' the monocular to read gauges. Devils Canyon i7 4790K @ 4.9GHz |16gb DDR3 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080Ti | Samsung 860 EVO Thrustmaster Warthog | Virpil WarBRD | Virpil TM-50CM2 Grip | VKB-Sim T-Rudder Mk.IV | Acer X34A (21:9) | Oculus Rift S A-10C | AJS-37 | AV-8B | C-101 | F/A-18C | F-14A/B | F-5E | KA-50 | L-39 | M-2000C | SA342 | Spitfire LF Mk IX | UH-1H
SGT Coyle Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 ...this is how NVG actually work in real life, you won't be able to read your gauges bc it's range is set to the far distance for what you're looking out of your canopy out at. Not a bug, just realistic. I flew 90% at night and these NVGs, in VR at least, are not realistic. They lack adjustment. There needs to be a setting for the goggle adjustment fore and aft, and up and down. I never used monocular style, but the binocular style as an aircrew man on CH-46s. In the back we want them up tight. We're looking out for traffic and landing hazards, and generally anything else you need see in the dark for. Up front there are two sets of eyes. and they adjust them for their particular style. What they're comfortable with and what they need them for. I don't want to get detailed about it. Now I do like how the picture gets grainy and pixel sparks as the sky gets darker. That is a very realistic effect. The amplification could be toned down a bit, but not so much as to make them useless. MFDs need to be dimmer. Much dimmer for NVGs. I haven't been able to get Frenchy's NVG mod to work, but the pic on his site look to have a very realistic feel to them. I am a big +1 for NVG love in the near future. Night Ops in the Harrier IYAOYAS
WindyTX Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 ...this is how NVG actually work in real life, you won't be able to read your gauges bc it's range is set to the far distance for what you're looking out of your canopy out at. Not a bug, just realistic. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSorry but in reality the NVG's for pilots are set so that you can read everything under them. While the HUD was the primary flight instrument we would always set the green lights so you could read all the instruments plus you need to see the radar display . This problem has been reported repeatedly but I guess because the fov in VR is different from " screen play" it appears to be difficult for ED to fix. Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk I7 3930 4.2GHz ( Hyperthreading Off), GTX1080, 16 GB ddr3 Hotas Warthog Saiteck Combat Pedals HTC Vive, Oculus CV1. GTX 1080 Has its uses
Rainmaker Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 Can we pretty please get this addressed?!? I know this is buried in a sub-forum, but hopefully someone sees it.
Fisu_MAD Posted December 13, 2019 Posted December 13, 2019 This needs love ED! YouTube Channel Update: MSI Z790 Tomahawk, i9 13900k, DDR5 64GB 640 MHz, MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio, 970 EVO Plus 1TB SSD NVMe M.2 and 4 more, HOTAS TM Warthog, Meta Quest Pro
Gruman Posted December 13, 2019 Posted December 13, 2019 +1 I'm currently just using Frenchy's NVG Mod. Small Config change ED could make and everybody would be good to go. Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard
Ready Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 I can't get this NVG mod to work in my G2 headset in the latest Open.Beta. Followed the instructions. Anybody else using this mod in VR? I fly an A-10C II in VR and post my DCS journey on | Subscribe to my DCS A-10C channel Come check out the 132nd Virtual Wing | My VR Performance Optimization (4090/9800X3D/Aero) SYSTEM SPECS: Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 64GB DDR5-6000, Windows 10, ROG STRIX X870E-E Gaming WIFI, Varjo Aero, VKB Gunfighter MKIII MCG Ultimate with 10cm extension, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC Control Panel #2, TM TPR Rudders. Buttkicker, Gametrix Jetseat, PointCTRL, OpenKneeboard, Wacom Intuos Pro Small.
lefuneste01 Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Ready_ENP said: I can't get this NVG mod to work in my G2 headset in the latest Open.Beta. Followed the instructions. Anybody else using this mod in VR? There are other mods providing same features. I use my mod to size NVG. Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
Ready Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 Yes I put the mod in the wrong folder. It must be in the DCS core folder, not in saved games. It works now. I am now just looking for a configuration that resembles some sort of reality. I would like to have large circles and still be able to look at the instruments from under the NVG. Anybody got something working like that? I fly an A-10C II in VR and post my DCS journey on | Subscribe to my DCS A-10C channel Come check out the 132nd Virtual Wing | My VR Performance Optimization (4090/9800X3D/Aero) SYSTEM SPECS: Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 64GB DDR5-6000, Windows 10, ROG STRIX X870E-E Gaming WIFI, Varjo Aero, VKB Gunfighter MKIII MCG Ultimate with 10cm extension, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC Control Panel #2, TM TPR Rudders. Buttkicker, Gametrix Jetseat, PointCTRL, OpenKneeboard, Wacom Intuos Pro Small.
Ready Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 12 hours ago, lefuneste01 said: There are other mods providing same features. I use my mod to size NVG. Which mods? Animoto? Am thinking of checking it out. I fly an A-10C II in VR and post my DCS journey on | Subscribe to my DCS A-10C channel Come check out the 132nd Virtual Wing | My VR Performance Optimization (4090/9800X3D/Aero) SYSTEM SPECS: Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 64GB DDR5-6000, Windows 10, ROG STRIX X870E-E Gaming WIFI, Varjo Aero, VKB Gunfighter MKIII MCG Ultimate with 10cm extension, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC Control Panel #2, TM TPR Rudders. Buttkicker, Gametrix Jetseat, PointCTRL, OpenKneeboard, Wacom Intuos Pro Small.
lefuneste01 Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Ready_ENP said: Which mods? Animoto? Am thinking of checking it out. Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
Ready Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Yes 3dmigoto is what I meant. Thanks, will give it a try. I fly an A-10C II in VR and post my DCS journey on | Subscribe to my DCS A-10C channel Come check out the 132nd Virtual Wing | My VR Performance Optimization (4090/9800X3D/Aero) SYSTEM SPECS: Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 64GB DDR5-6000, Windows 10, ROG STRIX X870E-E Gaming WIFI, Varjo Aero, VKB Gunfighter MKIII MCG Ultimate with 10cm extension, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC Control Panel #2, TM TPR Rudders. Buttkicker, Gametrix Jetseat, PointCTRL, OpenKneeboard, Wacom Intuos Pro Small.
Japo32 Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 Still this is happening and we do not have an option to make smaller the view in NVG. We can go to the mod community, but sometimes breaks IC, others are broken as now with shaders changes, and others are not good enough for us (for me Migoto is ok, but it has lots of features I don't want to install. In any case is broken right now until there is an update with latest shaders changes. @BIGNEWYcan you please translate this option change to the team, please? Thanks!
MicMic Posted April 10, 2022 Posted April 10, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 4:02 PM, Japo32 said: Still this is happening and we do not have an option to make smaller the view in NVG. We can go to the mod community, but sometimes breaks IC, others are broken as now with shaders changes, and others are not good enough for us (for me Migoto is ok, but it has lots of features I don't want to install. In any case is broken right now until there is an update with latest shaders changes. @BIGNEWYcan you please translate this option change to the team, please? Thanks! Yes, all my mods to make smaller and realistic view in NVG with virtual reality gogles doesn't work now. Waiting for a solution...
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