Please add TDC Slew axis

Midnightzulu · May 30, 2018

This is an early access and it will be added soon. The team had higher priorities to achieve a May release.

:thumbup:

Thank you Wags. You guys have obviously been hard at work. Marvelous job so far!

em4joshua · May 30, 2018

Please allow axis command for "Throttle Designatior Controller."

Please allow us to assign the "Throttle Designator Contorller" as an axis. Those of us who upgraded our slew controller to analog for DCS and Space Sims will greatly appreciate it.

For those of you that want to know what I am referring to.

https://deltasimelectronics.com/products/thumbstick-slew-sensor-adapter

https://deltasimelectronics.com/products/force-sensor-uprade-kit

Thank you,

Joshua

Raven (Elysian Angel) · May 30, 2018

Yes, one of the first things I noticed was that in the axis menu it is only boundable to the mouse...

Ramrod_45 · May 30, 2018

There's plenty of other things to learn so we will have to be patient.

First impressions, well amazing. I managed a carrier trap on my first attempt much to my continued amazement.

Many thanks to you Wags and everyone at ED who work so diligently to produce the best.

I'll be 69 in July and have loved flight sims for many years. DCS World is beyond my wildest dreams when I think of the older sims.

What you and the team have achieved is superb. :thumbup:

Fri13 · May 30, 2018

Hi Eaglewings,
Looks to me like the T1600 throttle was designed after the F/A-18 quadrant with a few limitations/differences:

1. The unit is a single throttle setup. No issues flying twins with it so far though.

With F/A-18 you should "walk it in" with throttles when you are turning away from the flight path to left or right. You would just gently adjust power that way. That makes the TM16000 throttle little unsuitable for F/A-18 even when you can land it great control anyways.

2. No detents for idle/cutoff or afterburner

For that you can add slight modification by adding velcro to it like on CH Throttle.

3. On the far left there is a dial axis that is not there on the real unit. I use this as a radar elevation control. There is no external light switch there as in the real thing.

The real throttle should have a radar elevation control rotary in grip. So it is not far off by having it off-placed but still there. http://www.aerotronicsllc.com/f18throttle.htm

It would be where in Logitech G940 the rotary is, but with that throttle it is on left edge so you can still use it for same purpose.

4. There is a rocker switch where the radar elevation dial is on the real aircraft. This is better used as a speedbrake or for other functions imo.

Yes, I think the chaff/flare as for speed breaks and for landing gear/hook use you could use it with the modifiers (the two orange buttons).

5. The three switches on the right side of the throttle are all 8 way hats. This actually gives you more potential functions than the real unit. In reality, I think they are essentially 4 way hats as the diagonals are quite hard to hit.

I haven't get really the purpose but anything on the diagonals as it is difficult to hit them on any controller. They do work for the axis control or view change when hitting a one edge isn't causing trouble.

Overall I'm happy with the throttle. It is a budget option and is therefore quite lightweight with cheaper plastics. In no way a dealbreaker for me. Some have commented that it can be sticky, making small adjustments difficult. This was the case for me at first, but there is a tension screw at the bottom that can be adjusted. Loosening it a bit did the trick for me. I got the bundle with the T1600 stick as well. I do find the stick a bit lacking with only one hat (trim) and no other multi function switches. I'm planning on taking a look at the TM Hornet stick when it is released or just purchasing the warthog stick only at some point in the future.

I got the HOTAS set (stick and throttle) for a 75€ as new in spring sale. Good price as normally 129€. And purpose was to get for long time first non-FF stick and single axis throttle for learning experience and then use it as a third HOTAS system on different location.

For few days the throttle was very smooth on me. But then it started to get sticky. Eventually it was so sticky that I couldn't move at all it accurately. And the pot in the throttle is 8-bit that is causing inaccuracy easily with the sticky moving. So it was time to open and lubricate the two bars to get it smoother, but didn't help much. Until I removed the tension bar (two metal bars with other having a plastic feets to squeeze on the two slide bars) and it was better, but not at all same as originally. The downside by removing the tension bar is that throttle can little rock when moving, so it is needed to add there.

First I added the lithium grease but then couple days later needed to remove it and then add silicone spray lubricant and it has neither helped much.

The throttle just ain't at all as smooth as it was originally, regardless the tension bar tightness.

The TDC slewing would be important but for F/A-18C it works still, while with some other aircrafts it ain't so optimal as its location is little bad. Why I am planning to replace the TM16000 stick with CH Fighterstick as it is cheap option to complete the otherwise good 3x 4-axis throttle functionality, if I can just get the throttle move smoothly again.

I am waiting to get change to buy the VKB MCG Pro once in stock again (missed the couple day time window) as I don't mind to use such different stick with other aircrafts. But the TM16000 stick is just... Unsuitable for DCS. The shape is terrible, it is high force stick, single trigger and just too little buttons and single hat is just not great. You can fly but not really operate as hat ain't such problem but lack of the buttons for thumb rest and pinky.

So probably get the CH fighterstick replace it and then mod it with slight extension and RC model cars tension bars to make it so that it stays where you leave it (non-FF non-centering stick) so it can be used for helicopters too.

The F/A-18C doesn't require such trimming mechanism etc, but lets see how it eventually then works.

Edited May 30, 2018 by Fri13

Xordus · May 30, 2018

Man, I can't believe we don't have TDC axis... They have the Radar Elevation axis... I'm in love with the jet but damn, that seems like a small oversight with big ramifications. It totally screws up my controls!

I hope they get it added for the next update, we had to wait months for RAZBAM to finally add it.........

gavagai · May 31, 2018

Fri13, you can adjust the throttle tension with a little screw underneath. Put the throttle all the way forward, and turn it over. Just loosen that screw and it is 100% better.

RTFM.:smartass:

pimp · May 31, 2018

Cant assign Cougar Microstick to TDC Slew

Not sure if this is a bug or not but when I go to Axis Commands and try to assign an axis to the TDC Slew Horizontal/Vertical, the assign axis option does not open.

Thanks in advance!

ebabil · May 31, 2018

It will be fixed said Wags

TwanV · May 31, 2018

:thumbup:+1

wilbur81 · May 31, 2018

My previous TDC axis profile for x55 throttle mouse nipple will work on F/A-18C

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3288785/

I will try to get something working for you A-10C HOTAS and T1600 HOTAS users.

Just a bit hard to program the software without the hardware so I am not making any promises, other than that I will attempt to create profiles for you guys using the respective software for profile creation for each Device

Have you been able to get the X-55 slider switch to operate the speed brake?

RAFPROT · June 1, 2018

Wish it comes soon.

My HOTAS Warthog's slew is wasted and need some buttons.

Maverick87Shaka · June 1, 2018

+1 For TDC Slew axis

Actually using an HAT switch on joystick, but I really want to bind it on my TWCS Throttle minijoystick.

Dronin87 · June 1, 2018

Have you been able to get the X-55 slider switch to operate the speed brake?

Mine is working fine. I bound it in game the slider extends them and then the bottom rottory dial for the thumb press is to retract them.

Wingnutt270 · June 3, 2018

I think the keys are

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Babel88 · June 3, 2018

+1, pls fix it

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AMEDooley · June 3, 2018

Don't get me wrong I'm not upset. Just please add this even if slightly unrealistic, I kind of need the slew nub not to be useless to make the most of my WH Throttle.

Hope this is planned.

I'm stoked to be sitting in a virtual Hornet. I'm quite excited. For me slew nub for TDC is must have.

Apologies if this belongs in the bugs and problems thread.

I’m actually just going to use the cookie hat and use the nub as my ATC button. More realistic to the real grip. But I do agree it should be an option for others if they want to use t that way.

Joker328 · June 3, 2018

This is an early access and it will be added soon. The team had higher priorities to achieve a May release.

Awesome. This is probably #1 on my wishlist right now.

Wingnutt270 · June 3, 2018

Search for "Throttle Designator Controller"

THAT is the control for the slew, and you can map it to a hat switch.

NOTE: YOU MUST BE IN AA MODE.

if you are not in AA mode the cursor will not move.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Wingnutt270

Ahogephilia · June 5, 2018

+1

Ahogephilia · June 5, 2018

Search for "Throttle Designator Controller"

THAT is the control for the slew, and you can map it to a hat switch.

NOTE: YOU MUST BE IN AA MODE.

if you are not in AA mode the cursor will not move.

We want TDC bind to GD microstick. Not hat.

Wingnutt270 · June 5, 2018

We want TDC bind to GD microstick. Not hat.

Yea that's not the topic of the entire thread or anything.

:music_whistling:

But it seemed many were not aware how to get it to work AT ALL, hence my info.

Leachman · June 6, 2018

Thanks for the tips, I got Throttle Designator Controller working on Warthog DMS hat, which seems smoother than the coolie hat.

Throttle Designate Depress Locks/Unlocks, though unlocking seems to zero your cursor at the top left for now.

VirusAM · June 7, 2018

Search for "Throttle Designator Controller"

THAT is the control for the slew, and you can map it to a hat switch.

NOTE: YOU MUST BE IN AA MODE.

if you are not in AA mode the cursor will not move.

That 's not the way it works...you have just to use castle switch to make the ddi where you put the radar as display of interest

Midnightzulu · June 8, 2018

With F/A-18 you should "walk it in" with throttles when you are turning away from the flight path to left or right. You would just gently adjust power that way. That makes the TM16000 throttle little unsuitable for F/A-18 even when you can land it great control anyways.

For that you can add slight modification by adding velcro to it like on CH Throttle.

The real throttle should have a radar elevation control rotary in grip. So it is not far off by having it off-placed but still there. http://www.aerotronicsllc.com/f18throttle.htm
It would be where in Logitech G940 the rotary is, but with that throttle it is on left edge so you can still use it for same purpose.

Yes, I think the chaff/flare as for speed breaks and for landing gear/hook use you could use it with the modifiers (the two orange buttons).

5. The three switches on the right side of the throttle are all 8 way hats. This actually gives you more potential functions than the real unit. In reality, I think they are essentially 4 way hats as the diagonals are quite hard to hit.