kaoqumba Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 I know that F/A18 has no ILS for land airports, and it is difficult to land safely in bad weather. In the future, can we consider adding ILS for F/A18, similar to aircraft carriers, to land airports? I understand this is not true, but some players, including me, would like to take off and land bumblebees in various weather conditions at the land airport?
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kaoqumba Posted November 29, 2018 Author Posted November 29, 2018 But it can only provide a general location, the direction of the runway is unknown. It's very troublesome in low visibility.
Freeroamer Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 The F/A-18C (Block 20) Hornet in U.S. Navy service wasn't equipped with civilian ILS, only with ICLS for use in CASE II/III.
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kaoqumba Posted November 29, 2018 Author Posted November 29, 2018 This is the latest training video / in game training on IFR landings. thank
kaoqumba Posted November 29, 2018 Author Posted November 29, 2018 The F/A-18C (Block 20) Hornet in U.S. Navy service wasn't equipped with civilian ILS, only with ICLS for use in CASE II/III. OK, I see. Thank you for your kind reply.
Frederf Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 Non-precision approaches are typically 500' (minimum 250') which is usually enough. The right way to do it would be to have a PAR approach or a field installation of an ICLS.
Cobra747 Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 I believe the Australian Hornet's have ILS functionality in them. Can we get it for them then. :joystick:
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kaoqumba Posted November 29, 2018 Author Posted November 29, 2018 ;3705042']I believe the Australian Hornet's have ILS functionality in them. Can we get it for them then. :joystick: That's a great idea!
kaoqumba Posted November 29, 2018 Author Posted November 29, 2018 If and when ED model an Australian hornet beyond just a skin then yes I'm sure it'll be included.;) That's a great idea. There is no need to make it very complex and realistic. Just copy the ILS on the carrier to the land airport.
MasterZelgadis Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) But it can only provide a general location, the direction of the runway is unknown. It's very troublesome in low visibility. No it is not. It is printed big onto each runway end, and it is given to you when you talk to atc. You even can see it in the F-10 map Also you should learn to read these ones: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1812/00227HILZ21L.PDF With just this pdf you have everything you need to land an F-18 in bad weather in Nellis There is no need to make it [...] realistic. You totally missed the point of DCS... Edited November 29, 2018 by MasterZelgadis "Sieh nur, wie majestätisch du durch die Luft segelst. Wie ein Adler. Ein fetter Adler." http://www.space-view.net
kaoqumba Posted November 29, 2018 Author Posted November 29, 2018 No it is not. It is printed big onto each runway end, and it is given to you when you talk to atc. You even can see it in the F-10 map Also you should learn to read these ones: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1812/00227HILZ21L.PDF With just this pdf you have everything you need to land an F-18 in bad weather in Nellis You totally missed the point of DCS... I apologize for my inappropriate reply. I'm sorry
kaoqumba Posted November 30, 2018 Author Posted November 30, 2018 No it is not. It is printed big onto each runway end, and it is given to you when you talk to atc. You even can see it in the F-10 map Also you should learn to read these ones: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1812/00227HILZ21L.PDF With just this pdf you have everything you need to land an F-18 in bad weather in Nellis You totally missed the point of DCS... When contacting the airport to return, it will call me. What do these calls mean? What shall I do? Do I need to contact them many times for navigation and orientation? I'm sorry, I've never paid attention to this call before. Do you have any tutorials on this subject?
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dlpayer Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 In the F4J we always did GCA approach to fields {ground controlled approach directed by a controller on the ground, this was a precision approach}. I wonder if something like this could be implemented in DCS?
MasterZelgadis Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 When contacting the airport to return, it will call me. What do these calls mean? What shall I do? Do I need to contact them many times for navigation and orientation? I'm sorry, I've never paid attention to this call before. Do you have any tutorials on this subject? You do know that runway numbers always give the rough runway heading? Rwy 13 is roughly heading 130, rwy 03R is 030, 21L is heading 210..and so on. Dial in the tcn frequency, set course to runway heading, then you should be fine to land. Otherwise look at the approach chart, the one I linked for example. They tell you how you have to fly, which altitude at which point you should have. Give it a try, it's fun to fly them, and when you are familiar with them you don't even have to look outside the cockpit. Fly it heads down watching only your instruments, and at the last nav point look up, find the runway, make a small correction and land "Sieh nur, wie majestätisch du durch die Luft segelst. Wie ein Adler. Ein fetter Adler." http://www.space-view.net
kaoqumba Posted November 30, 2018 Author Posted November 30, 2018 You do know that runway numbers always give the rough runway heading? Rwy 13 is roughly heading 130, rwy 03R is 030, 21L is heading 210..and so on. Dial in the tcn frequency, set course to runway heading, then you should be fine to land. Otherwise look at the approach chart, the one I linked for example. They tell you how you have to fly, which altitude at which point you should have. Give it a try, it's fun to fly them, and when you are familiar with them you don't even have to look outside the cockpit. Fly it heads down watching only your instruments, and at the last nav point look up, find the runway, make a small correction and land Thank!
beppe_goodoldrebel Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 You should even find the correct approach pattern to the runway in the kneeboard.
Ramsay Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 You should even find the correct approach pattern to the runway in the kneeboard. Not for IFR approaches (the diagrams in the kneeboard are VAD's = Visual Approach Diagrams), however the diagrams do include runway headings (magnetic), etc. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
beppe_goodoldrebel Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 Not for IFR approaches (the diagrams in the kneeboard are VAD's = Visual Approach Diagrams), however the diagrams do include runway headings (magnetic), etc. Doesn't they work either for IFR with TACAN navigation? I admit I'm not into this kind of things...
MasterZelgadis Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 You have different charts for that. Check the KLSV charts. STRYK recovery is a visual approach for example. The instrument approaches are divided into precision approaches and non-precision approaches. Every approach flown without ILS is an NPA. HI TACAN Y is a non precision approach, you would choose this in an F-18, because you don't have ILS. If you have ILS you can fly a PA, HI-ILS OR LOC Z RWY 21L for example. It's different from the HI TACAN approaches "Sieh nur, wie majestätisch du durch die Luft segelst. Wie ein Adler. Ein fetter Adler." http://www.space-view.net
Svsmokey Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 I'm excited to see Wag's post about a land-based ILS training mission . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
Rescue Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Haven't seen the video yet. Can't you just type the ILS frq on the radio and enable ADF on the Channel? You should hear if you're on the glideslope. Or not?
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