Donut Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Reading through the multiple threads in the forums on the upcoming LITENING, I don't see an ED response in regards to if the LITENING will be restricted to the centerline station only or if it will be fitted to the left fuselage station as well. Edited January 27, 2019 by =BJM= i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gekoiq Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Centerline only. The LITENING was never mounted anywhere else beside centerline on USMC aircraft and never used at all on USN aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones1775 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Centerline only. The LITENING was never mounted anywhere else beside centerline on USMC aircraft and never used at all on USN aircraft. false, litening can be mounted on the left cheek station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gekoiq Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 false, litening can be mounted on the left cheek station. Re-read my statement: the USMC never mounted it on the cheek station. The navy doesn't use the LITENING at all. Other countries might have developed a mount for the cheek station but the US, specifically the USMC did not. ED is modeling a USN/USMC Hornet, not a Spanish Hornet, not an Australian Hornet, not any other Hornet beside a USN/USMC Block 20 Charlie hornet, and the USN/USMC never mounted the LITENING pod on the cheek stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) false, litening can be mounted on the left cheek station. Only RAAF hornets can mount it there via a native pylon adapter afaik. Edited January 28, 2019 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1330 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 He asked for ED’s official response, not to restart the whole argument over again... Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 He asked for ED’s official response, not to restart the whole argument over again... Yes, thank you. The argument and confusion is already in place and therefore the need for an official response from ED. Currently, they are replicating a 2006 US Navy Hornet but with the change to now include the LITENING, is ED now making a USMC Hornet because there are differences. From the last Hornet Mini-Update, it looks like work on implementing the LITENING has not started yet so it could still be a ways off, making the ATFLIR implementation even further out. i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 He asked for ED’s official response, not to restart the whole argument over again... It would be unrealistic to mount LITENING on station 4 for a lot 20 USN/USMC hornet, don't see any argument. It is what it is, like gekoiq said. ED has already stated multiple times which country, version, lot#, OFP, and time period the sim covers. DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Likely Centerline only, Cheek station was used with Export Airframes w/ a New Cheek Adapter. Since this Adapter is not modeled in DCS currently, it's likely to be Centerline only. However more details will likely be announced when the LITENING is closer to hitting open beta. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Likely Centerline only, Cheek station was used with Export Airframes w/ a New Cheek Adapter. Since this Adapter is not modeled in DCS currently, it's likely to be Centerline only. However more details will likely be announced when the LITENING is closer to hitting open beta. Thank you for the response. Makes sense and is what I thought but was just looking for some official word. i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Can Hornet land on carrier with LITENING on central station? Or its used when aircraft operate from airfields only? ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Can Hornet land on carrier with LITENING on central station? Or its used when aircraft operate from airfields only? It is used by the USMC when operating from airfields, but AFAIK this is not because of difficulties with carrier landings, but because of logistical reasons. On the ship the USMC shares the logistics with the Navy which uses the ATFLIR. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 From what I understood, the litening cannot sustain the usual impact which comes with landing on the deck 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Since export models of the Hornet were brought up, is ATFLIR only used by the USN? I'm curious what Canadian and Swiss Hornets use for their TGPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 From what I understood, the litening cannot sustain the usual impact which comes with landing on the deck Isn't the Hornet landed in the same way on airfields as it is on carriers in US service? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Canada use Sniper, Switzerland use ATFLIR. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Isn't the Hornet landed in the same way on airfields as it is on carriers in US service? I believe so, so I think it's probably the longitudinal acceleration of cat shots/traps that's the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I believe so, so I think it's probably the longitudinal acceleration of cat shots/traps that's the issue. I don't think there was a technical issue. IIRC the reason why the USMC uses the ATFLIR when operating from carriers is due to the shared logistics with the Navy aboard the ship. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I don't think there was a technical issue. IIRC the reason why the USMC uses the ATFLIR when operating from carriers is due to the shared logistics with the Navy aboard the ship. I think that wont be technical issue also. They share the logistics. Just for example, central fuel tank is much bigger than LITENING, but this isnt a problem to land on carrier. ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I just found the source again on which I based my statement, that there are no technical problems with carrier operations in regards to the LITENING: https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a498288.pdf It just comes down to keeping commonality with Navy Hornets aboard carriers. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORD FLASHEART Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I really do not care if it’s ‘unrealistic’ to have litening on the cheek. It’s an awesome stepping stone to ATFLIR and I’d prefer to get practice with it located on the cheek. If you’ve got hyper-realism issues just wait for ATFLIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDieing Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I really do not care if it’s ‘unrealistic’ to have litening on the cheek. It’s an awesome stepping stone to ATFLIR and I’d prefer to get practice with it located on the cheek. If you’ve got hyper-realism issues just wait for ATFLIR. ED will probably favor realism over your desire to use it as stepping stone for the ATFLIR. Im not sure where the hyper-realism thing comes from, nobody in this thread seems to be suffering from it. ''Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.'' Erich Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Using of LITENING is realistic also, when it is used by USMC. ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 For now, ED is modelling a US Lot 20 (USN Originally, but USMC features as well). There are no export specific features (Lights, Rebuilt Wing Mechanisms, rebuilt Nose Gear, etc), So I wouldnt expect anything about new Pod Adapters, just to curb expectations. ie Dont blow a gasket when it hits OB and its not cheek mountable, because no one stated it was going to be, and none of the planned features list would imply it would be either. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones1775 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Centerline only. The LITENING was never mounted anywhere else beside centerline on USMC aircraft and never used at all on USN aircraft. Re-read my statement: the USMC never mounted it on the cheek station. The navy doesn't use the LITENING at all. Other countries might have developed a mount for the cheek station but the US, specifically the USMC did not. ED is modeling a USN/USMC Hornet, not a Spanish Hornet, not an Australian Hornet, not any other Hornet beside a USN/USMC Block 20 Charlie hornet, and the USN/USMC never mounted the LITENING pod on the cheek stations. nothing to see here these are USMC Hornets and that is not a litening pod on station 4. Edited January 28, 2019 by Bones1775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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