SmoglessPanic Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 Thanks Guys, I appreciate the responses. I will more than likely go with a Reverb I think it's time to upgrade from the Rift S.
Notso Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 It is interesting when people ask this kind of question, as inevitably you will get very diffierent opinions. In the end, you just have to try it for yourself. FWIW, my opinion is very different from Notso's. My 2 big beefs with the Reverb are firstly the difficulty in getting tracking synced when there is no daylight, and secondly, the horribly thick, stiff cable. I have no issues with the audio at all. Perfectly suitable for purpose, and the last thing I want is to strap on more plastic onto my head in the form of external headphones. I have owned CV1, Vive Pro and Valve Index and overall, I prefer the Reverb, mainly for clarity and resolution. I'm surprised that Notso says he can't see much difference between the Vive Pro OLED colours and the Reverb's. IMO, there is a big difference there. Much more saturation, deeper blacks and depth in the VP. But, again, it's worth the compromise. And, my advice is don't wait for Reverb G2. Who knows when/if that will see the light of day. So, lots of different opinions! Haha, So true. You know what they say.... opinions are like..... @ss( ) :P I guess I don't notice the cable because I have it ziptied to the headrest of my chair and I don't notice the weight. Before I did that, I agree it sucked. I've not had any issues with synching, but I have a very bright room, so maybe it copes ok once the sun goes down. As for the difference between the Vive Pro and the reverb colors..... its likely because I had about a 2 month break without using the Vive before I got the Reverb. So I probably forgot what the colors looked like. On the audio, that is definitely crap compared to the Vive. Yes they deliver sound (when the ear piece was not broken off as was the case on my first Reverb), but at least the Vive actually touched and somewhat cut out external sound and was more like an actual headphone with rich sound. My reverbs just barely rest against my ears and the air gap makes it difficult to hear anything well. Its like I'm in an aquarium. And I didn't mean to strap a set of external earphones on. I specifically said "ear buds". I have a nice set of Bose earbuds that plug into the headphone jack and they are WAY better than either the Reverb or the Vive OEM audio solutions. Just my opinion. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
imacken Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 Haha, So true. You know what they say.... opinions are like..... @ss( ) :P I guess I don't notice the cable because I have it ziptied to the headrest of my chair and I don't notice the weight. Before I did that, I agree it sucked. I've not had any issues with synching, but I have a very bright room, so maybe it copes ok once the sun goes down. As for the difference between the Vive Pro and the reverb colors..... its likely because I had about a 2 month break without using the Vive before I got the Reverb. So I probably forgot what the colors looked like. On the audio, that is definitely crap compared to the Vive. Yes they deliver sound (when the ear piece was not broken off as was the case on my first Reverb), but at least the Vive actually touched and somewhat cut out external sound and was more like an actual headphone with rich sound. My reverbs just barely rest against my ears and the air gap makes it difficult to hear anything well. Its like I'm in an aquarium. And I didn't mean to strap a set of external earphones on. I specifically said "ear buds". I have a nice set of Bose earbuds that plug into the headphone jack and they are WAY better than either the Reverb or the Vive OEM audio solutions. Just my opinion. I think your difficulty with the audio must relate to your head shape. Mine sit very nicely over my ears and I can’t really hear much external sound at all. The Vive Pro sound was very lacking in any bass, but the hardware was nice quality. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Notso Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 What button are you referring to? The Motion Smoothing button in Steam VR setting under DCS game. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
eaglecash867 Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 The Motion Smoothing button in Steam VR setting under DCS game. AFAIK, that button does nothing for WMR headsets. You still need to edit the defaultvrsettings file to turn reprojection on and off. EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending.
speed-of-heat Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 AFAIK, that button does nothing for WMR headsets. You still need to edit the defaultvrsettings file to turn reprojection on and off. nope it now works , you just have to comment out the line in default.vrsettings SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
t-stoff Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Hey hello! I've asked in the Rift S section, what was their opinion on their VR on my computer, and I've come here to ask the same as I don't know yet what to buy: Rift S as they are sold out are almost at the same price as the Reverb. I also plan to upgrade to a new computer (keeping the GPU) prly next year or later this one. I play DCS (I don't do MP) but I also play Elite and maybe I'll give a retry on the "new" version o IL2. What do you reckon? THANKS!:) Intel Core i7 4770 @ 3.40GHz 16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 932MHz ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z97-A NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER (Gigabyte) & SSDs! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten"
imacken Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 The Motion Smoothing button in Steam VR setting under DCS game. It remains set. All you have to do is reset the line in default.vrsettings to what you had before. I always keep a copy of that file just in case I forget what the setting was. Things change regularly at the moment in terms of format and options. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Notso Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 nope it now works , you just have to comment out the line in default.vrsettings Yep. That was my earlier question. Someone said the new Steam VR update changed it back to off. Does that mean I need to go comment the line out again or just verify the button is still showing on? I checked yesterday and the button still was set to "Enabled". System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
speed-of-heat Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Yep. That was my earlier question. Someone said the new Steam VR update changed it back to off. Does that mean I need to go comment the line out again or just verify the button is still showing on? I checked yesterday and the button still was set to "Enabled". You should always check... the UI in steam is separate and subordinate to the default.vrsettings file. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Markeebo Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Wow a C64, my Vic20 have a wopping 1 fpd (frames pr day) in DCSLMAO. That's amazing. Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk
Notso Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 You should always check... the UI in steam is separate and subordinate to the default.vrsettings file. Will do, thanks System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
imacken Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Yep. That was my earlier question. Someone said the new Steam VR update changed it back to off. Does that mean I need to go comment the line out again or just verify the button is still showing on? I checked yesterday and the button still was set to "Enabled". As that someone said earlier, because of an update to WMR for SteamVR you need to reset the default.vrsettings line to be whatever you had it set to previously - most likely commented out. Nothing to do with SteamVR or its buttons. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Notso Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 As that someone said earlier, because of an update to WMR for SteamVR you need to reset the default.vrsettings line to be whatever you had it set to previously - most likely commented out. Nothing to do with SteamVR or its buttons. Got it now, thanks. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
dureiken Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 Hi I just plugged in my reverb, it was a long time ago. Level tracking under DCS, it looks like it is not top: when I do left right it also makes a little up / down. Yet the room is light, sensors cleaned. Can the screen in front makes problem? Thank you
imacken Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Just another heads up, this morning, update (1.1.203) to WMR for SteamVR has changed the default.vrsettings file. Remember to change it back. MS are doing a lot of updates recently. Got to be good news. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Tom Kazansky Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Hi I just plugged in my reverb, it was a long time ago. Level tracking under DCS, it looks like it is not top: when I do left right it also makes a little up / down. Yet the room is light, sensors cleaned. Can the screen in front makes problem? Thank you That's what I want to know too. Have you tried turning the screen off or/and put a towel over it to exclude that the reflecting surface has influence on tracking?
dureiken Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 That's what I want to know too. Have you tried turning the screen off or/and put a towel over it to exclude that the reflecting surface has influence on tracking? I finally put a brighter light in my room and it works, with screen in front no problem.
Tom Kazansky Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 I finally put a brighter light in my room and it works, with screen in front no problem. Thanks. Good to know.
Gunnars Driver Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 The Motion Smoothing button in Steam VR setting under DCS game. Whats supposed to be the benifit fromusing SteamVR motion Smoothing instead of setting it in the default vrsettings file ? [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
Baldrick33 Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Whats supposed to be the benifit fromusing SteamVR motion Smoothing instead of setting it in the default vrsettings file ?You can set it by application AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
Gunnars Driver Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 You can set it by application So no Visual gain or performance gain ? [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
imacken Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 No! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
dureiken Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Hi I have a problem when I'm in plane, I use Numpad 5 to reset the view but I am not at the right angle, it's little but it seems my view and I are not exactly the same, regarding throttle and pedals. is it the same for you ? thanks
Dave317 Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 I'm getting a problem today. WMR portal keeps saying 'put on your headset' even though it is on. I can get Steam VR to work and it works with DCS but I don't get full tracking. My room should be bright enough (it was fine before) and the only thing that has changed is windows 10 has updated.
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