Larkis Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Maybe stupit question but what this command do? I tried different times, on ground, in the air, after he called a visual, after he called a radar target but i get no response.
VC Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Doesn't he just do that by default without being told to? VC =X51= Squadron is recruiting! X51 website: https://x51squadron.com/ Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/d9JtFY4
QuiGon Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Yes, but he also spends a lot of time looking at the displays. With that command you can tell him to shift his main focus outside the cockpit, so he will detect visual contacts much quicker, but detecting contacts on the radar scope might happen slower. At least that's my understanding of the function. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Moafuleum Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 The next question to me is: how can you tell him to stop look outside and again focus on the displays?
QuiGon Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 The next question to me is: how can you tell him to stop look outside and again focus on the displays? Good question! Maybe the Spot command only works for a certain duration (e.g. a minute)? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Rhinozherous Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I still dont understand why Jester (one of the main features) is that much under-documented in the manual... i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020
trindade Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I still dont understand why Jester (one of the main features) is that much under-documented in the manual... +1
bonesvf103 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I get bothered by Jester primarily by: 1. HE calls targets well after they are in the position he called. There have been several times when he called the bandit was at 6:00, even though he was RIGHT in front of me as I was tracking for a kill. Or, I'd fire a missile and it would miss and 10 seconds later, he'd remarked "Missile missed!" These were 1V1 engagements so it wasn't like someone else fired a missile at me an missed or he was calling a bandit on my six that I didn't know about. 2. He's not really a team player, haha. His remarks in a dogfight seem so negative. Not encouraging at all. And he's a chicken. We got shot up pretty bad but I had the aircraft and was actually gliding her to a landing in the deserts of Nevada. I hear, "Sorry, man, I'm gonna eject....Good luuuuuccckkkk!" and I'm like, "Did he really just eject?" and I see that my canopy is missing and I hear wind whistling by. I successfully landed the plane seconds later on the desert floor and had a look and sure enough the canopy was gone and so was he--literally. When I checked the mission results, it showed that he ejected and died. v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
Hamilton Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I still dont understand why Jester (one of the main features) is that much under-documented in the manual... Agree! _________________________________ Aorus Z390 Extreme MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.0 GHz | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz CL14 DDR4 Ram | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Corsair TX 850M PS | Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB |TMWH Hotas with VPC WarBRD Base| Corsair Gamer 570x Crystal Case | HP Reverb
dailey123 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I find the refueling hard with Jester little bit left right right sometimes the information he is calling not correct but overal experience pretty nice.
Deano87 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 You can tell him to shut up, if you want. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Eldur Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I still dont understand why Jester (one of the main features) is that much under-documented in the manual... This... was going to ask the same question as the OP.
Moafuleum Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 2. He's not really a team player, haha. His remarks in a dogfight seem so negative. Not encouraging at all. And he's a chicken. We got shot up pretty bad but I had the aircraft and was actually gliding her to a landing in the deserts of Nevada. I hear, "Sorry, man, I'm gonna eject....Good luuuuuccckkkk!" and I'm like, "Did he really just eject?" and I see that my canopy is missing and I hear wind whistling by. I successfully landed the plane seconds later on the desert floor and had a look and sure enough the canopy was gone and so was he--literally. When I checked the mission results, it showed that he ejected and died. I guess thats because IRL under such conditions the procedure is unambiguous: EJECT The chance of surviving an ejection is far higher than doing a belly landing of a damaged plane half full of fuel and two hot engines. Landing with wheels down on a not-paved runway is suicide anyway.
SonofEil Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I’ve asked him to spot while in the close presence of bandits and he’s doesn’t say anything. Is anything at all actually supposed to happen when spot is selected? i7 7700K @5.0, 1080Ti, 32GB DDR4, HMD Odyssey, TM WH, Crosswind Rudder...
Blinde Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Maybe it's currently just a spot, an empty slot reserved for something else coming in future since Jester doesn't reply ever when selecting that command.
F900EX Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 It would be nice of HB did a Video on Jester and show what each cmd does, some of them I have no clue.
Shlozza Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 And he's a chicken. We got shot up pretty bad but I had the aircraft and was actually gliding her to a landing in the deserts of Nevada. I hear, "Sorry, man, I'm gonna eject....Good luuuuuccckkkk!" and I'm like, "Did he really just eject?" and I see that my canopy is missing and I hear wind whistling by. I successfully landed the plane seconds later on the desert floor and had a look and sure enough the canopy was gone and so was he--literally. When I checked the mission results, it showed that he ejected and died. ^ This! This has happened to me multiple times. I think when the jet is damaged, his threshold for ejection is significantly lower. There was one occasion that was particularly embarrassing for him. It was during the DACT guns only instant action mission in Nevada vs. the F-16. The F-16 drew first blood, but the damage was pretty minor. I went low to gain some energy, and as I was approaching the ground, he lost his nerve and punched out. I lost my canopy and my spotter. I pulled out of the dive comfortably, then proceeded to locate and down the F-16 a couple of minutes later. Thanks for nothing, Jester! He copped it pretty good when he finally made it back to the bar...
mehksauce Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I still dont understand why Jester (one of the main features) is that much under-documented in the manual... not only jester but other parts of the manual seems "half assed" had to look up youtube videos to get better understandings
Fri13 Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Landing with wheels down on a not-paved runway is suicide anyway. In Soviet Union the suicide is you.... Again, that is one huge design difference. Mig-21, Mig-23, Mig-27, Mig-29, Su-17, Su-24, Su-25, Su-27 etc.. are designed to be fully operational from unprepared fields. Literally you can operate from a wet crop field. War is not going to give you a change to choose to land or take-off from a fully prepared Air Base.... i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
Moafuleum Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 In Soviet Union the suicide is you.... Again, that is one huge design difference. Mig-21, Mig-23, Mig-27, Mig-29, Su-17, Su-24, Su-25, Su-27 etc.. are designed to be fully operational from unprepared fields. Literally you can operate from a wet crop field. War is not going to give you a change to choose to land or take-off from a fully prepared Air Base.... I agree with you on this. The soviet planes were(/are?) indeed designed to land and start from unpaved runways. I was referring to that particular situation where a landing of an F-14 on a desert sand surface (i.e. sand, and I'm not talking about that hard salt lakes like they were used for testing) is suicide. It depends of course on the doctrine. However for naval air combat, it is unlikely to see a carrier covered with grass and a tractor mowing the lawn at 4am such that operation is guaranteed :D
Tiramisu Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I get bothered by Jester primarily by: 1. HE calls targets well after they are in the position he called. There have been several times when he called the bandit was at 6:00, even though he was RIGHT in front of me as I was tracking for a kill. Or, I'd fire a missile and it would miss and 10 seconds later, he'd remarked "Missile missed!" These were 1V1 engagements so it wasn't like someone else fired a missile at me an missed or he was calling a bandit on my six that I didn't know about. 2. He's not really a team player, haha. His remarks in a dogfight seem so negative. Not encouraging at all. And he's a chicken. We got shot up pretty bad but I had the aircraft and was actually gliding her to a landing in the deserts of Nevada. I hear, "Sorry, man, I'm gonna eject....Good luuuuuccckkkk!" and I'm like, "Did he really just eject?" and I see that my canopy is missing and I hear wind whistling by. I successfully landed the plane seconds later on the desert floor and had a look and sure enough the canopy was gone and so was he--literally. When I checked the mission results, it showed that he ejected and died. v6, boNes +1 Hope that gets improved, because completly silencing jester is no good solution.
Gianky Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 not only jester but other parts of the manual seems "half assed" had to look up youtube videos to get better understandings Agreed, I think the manual, while very informative on the airplane, leaves much to be desired in terms of actual procedures and training to fly the aircraft and fight with it.
Eldur Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Agreed, I think the manual, while very informative on the airplane, leaves much to be desired in terms of actual procedures and training to fly the aircraft and fight with it. There have been tons of "Switch to X makes Y" where I was wondering what Y actually does... in a few of those cases I knew 'cos it was in the NATOPS.
key_stroked Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 On one hand, it's an early access product, and one can assume that some things are missing. That said, how can people who paid for early access give proper feedback on functionality of certain systems (i.e. Jester) without knowing how everything works? If you release Jester with a "spot" command, then you should put something in the manual that says what spot is actually supposed to do, so we can properly bug report it if it's not working as advertised. Isn't that the point of early access? Introducing your product to a broad audience to increase the chances of bugs being caught? Hard to do that when we don't even know what's normal and what's not.
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