ED Team NineLine Posted June 14, 2019 ED Team Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Free Normandy Map Update Coming In May 2017, Urga Media released their DCS: Normandy 1944 map for DCS World. The map focused on the landing beaches of Normandy and points south to encompass the breakout period in June 1944. The entire map also includes portions of southern England and areas outside the landing and breakout area to the south at a lower level of detail. The total map size is 267 x 348 kilometers and includes many period specific buildings, bridges, vehicles, windmills, and other objects that populate the map. This has been the ideal map for World War II combat and even low-altitude helicopter flying. Since the release and a large update to this map, Urga Media has been very busy to two primary items: The DCS: Syria map and another large, free, update to the Normandy map! This free Normandy map update will include the following: Improved quality of ground textures (fields and urban areas). Improved quality of the noise textures. This will be particularly evident at low altitudes. Improved quality of the coastline, both in Normandy and along the English coast. Processing of fields and city vector data to use new DCS World terrain technologies. Improved quality of the rivers and lakes. Improved quality of roads. Increased the number of unique objects and scenes. Optimization and improved the look of the trees and forests. Optimization of map for virtual reality performance. We have no planned release date at this time. Edited June 14, 2019 by NineLine Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Not that bad for a "dead" map with no VR optimisation expected :doh: :megalol: . Now, awaiting for a word from those saying that… S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finch Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Not that bad for a "dead" map with no VR optimisation expected :doh: :megalol: . Now, awaiting for a word from those saying that… S! I was one of them and already thanked ED for this news, so where is the problem? maybe ED did something because we were moaning and not because you were quiet? Edited June 15, 2019 by finch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfranky Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Not that bad for a "dead" map with no VR optimisation expected :doh: :megalol: . Now, awaiting for a word from those saying that… Chicken-egg dilemma :music_whistling: A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | MSI RTX 3080Ti Suprim X | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | MSI MPG Edge Z690 | Samung EVO 980 Pro SSD | Virpil Stick, Throttle and Collective | MFG Crosswind | HP Reverb G2 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 There is no planned release date set. Could be quite a while before it arrives. Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams999 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'm happy that an update has been announced! Doesn't change my plans, though. Syria map for me at the earliest *after* an update to the Normandy map has been done. Unless by then another map has caught my attention ;) "[...] because, basically, in this day and age, if you get to the merge and no one's died - it's not good for anybody." - Keith 'Okie' Nance "Nun siegt mal schön!" - Theodor Heuss, September 1958 "Nobody has any intention of building a wall." - Walter Ulbricht, June 1961 "Russia has no plans to invade either Ukraine or any other country." - Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the EU, January 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 maybe ED did something because we were moaning and not because you were quiet?Yeah, sure, or maybe they just did what was said that was to be done but you all can wait a minute before starting the bashing, who knows, right? Anyway, now you got your "official news" on that given that what we knew before wasn't enough for some of you. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cercata Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Yes, this will be good for people that has de Normandy map, the Normandy map sales, and the Syria map sales !!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finch Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Yeah, sure, or maybe they just did what was said that was to be done but you all can wait a minute before starting the bashing, who knows, right? Anyway, now you got your "official news" on that given that what we knew before wasn't enough for some of you. S! where was said? point me there because I haven't seen it. The only thing I found was that the optimization was scheduled for the maps except Normandy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyq8 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 First post, this thread Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I wish the word "Free" would stop being thrown around like they're doing us a favor. Its called Product Support. It wasn't kept current or to a usable level where the DCS specs allowed it to have decent FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 If they didn't say "free" then people would assume it wouldn't be.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Its called Product Support. Could you please put the same pressure on Microsoft to support Win-7 Pro ? I liked that much more than Win-10, but they've stopped patching it. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Could you please put the same pressure on Microsoft to support Win-7 Pro ? I liked that much more than Win-10, but they've stopped patching it. Weak argument: 1/ It's as if you'd clung to former DCS 1.5 Caucasus theatre instead of embracing DCS 2.5 brand new one. 2/ Win-10 was a temporarily free update for Win-7. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 18, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted June 18, 2019 I wish the word "Free" would stop being thrown around like they're doing us a favor. Its called Product Support. It wasn't kept current or to a usable level where the DCS specs allowed it to have decent FPS. Normandy is feature complete, these are additional changes at no cost, hence the word free. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephyrius Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Normandy is feature complete, these are additional changes at no cost, hence the word free. By this logic, should we worry about the VR optimisations not being free then? - Other maps are already feature complete, check - Relies on map changes, not game/engine, check - Not explicitly announced that it will be free, check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Normandy is feature complete, these are additional changes at no cost, hence the word free. Feature complete? You mean buildings, terrain detail, etc... Ok sure, but thats not what I said. Having FPS at a usable level, by your own published specs btw, is not a "feature". Its a service obligation. Normandy wasn't properly optimized and had plenty of people post up how poorly it ran. But yet it sat, untouched, until now. I'll be happy to see what all changes. It will determine whether or not I purchase Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 18, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted June 18, 2019 By this logic, should we worry about the VR optimisations not being free then? - Other maps are already feature complete, check - Relies on map changes, not game/engine, check - Not explicitly announced that it will be free, check What are you talking about? It's listed as a free update to Normandy as well. You are not understanding the logic. All the work, including the VR optimization, is extra beyond what as promised for the map. Feature complete? You mean buildings, terrain detail, etc... Ok sure, but thats not what I said. Having FPS at a usable level, by your own published specs btw, is not a "feature". Its a service obligation. Normandy wasn't properly optimized and had plenty of people post up how poorly it ran. But yet it sat, untouched, until now. I'll be happy to see what all changes. It will determine whether or not I purchase Syria. No, feature complete as in the map was completed, end of work, no more to be done. BUT now they are going back to update it. This wasn't promised or required. Again, the map was feature complete. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 One day, you'll be on the receiving end of a broken product that did not meet standards and you couldnt use it as is. The builder will say, but its complete. Then, you'll understand how we've been feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 18, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted June 18, 2019 One day, you'll be on the receiving end of a broken product that did not meet standards and you couldnt use it as is. The builder will say, but its complete. Then, you'll understand how we've been feeling. No one is saying the quality of the map was on par with ED's, but also ED invented the tools and had much more time at them. Normandy is hardly broken though, that is just being overly dramatic. I have been flying the many cool campaigns released and coming for the map, and have been having a blast. I think that would be hard to do on a broken map, and I am very excited for it to be improved even more. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 No one is saying the quality of the map was on par with ED's, but also ED invented the tools and had much more time at them. Normandy is hardly broken though, that is just being overly dramatic. I have been flying the many cool campaigns released and coming for the map, and have been having a blast. I think that would be hard to do on a broken map, and I am very excited for it to be improved even more. Sith, I appreciate you get a lot of rubbish thrown your way and you're required to be somewhat defensive (being on payroll and all), but can you just accept for once that others have different experiences than you, and just because yours is fine, doesn't mean other people's are. Normandy runs ok on my rig, but it doesn't perform as well as others. For people with worse machines than ours, that can run Cauc fine but not Normandy, the broken claims do have a ring of truthfulness to them. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing what the updates bring. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 19, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted June 19, 2019 Sith, I appreciate you get a lot of rubbish thrown your way and you're required to be somewhat defensive (being on payroll and all), but can you just accept for once that others have different experiences than you, and just because yours is fine, doesn't mean other people's are. Normandy runs ok on my rig, but it doesn't perform as well as others. For people with worse machines than ours, that can run Cauc fine but not Normandy, the broken claims do have a ring of truthfulness to them. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing what the updates bring. I agree with most of that, but I have never seen anything to show me the map was broken, sorry. And I am not sure what the fuss is, they are addressing issues, people are now saying they are mad because they used the word free... Sorry, seems a little too much. The other option was they didn't do anything Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finch Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I agree with most of that, but I have never seen anything to show me the map was broken, sorry. And I am not sure what the fuss is, they are addressing issues, people are now saying they are mad because they used the word free... Sorry, seems a little too much. The other option was they didn't do anything I think people are getting upset for the word "free" because seems like ED is doing us a favor updating the normandy, because is a 3th parties decision to update or not their modules. With this I think many people will think twice before they will buy something that is not made directly by ED team, seems a lottery... you'll never know if will be supported or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 19, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted June 19, 2019 because seems like ED is doing us a favor updating the normandy ED is not updating the map. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It was matter of the time the update comes. But that was matter of the size of the update (upgrade in this case). i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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