Surrexen Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) It seems like the F-16's interior lights and screens are dim even when on full after the last update, almost like it's permanently stuck in night mode or something. Anyone else getting this? Edit: 2pm in Persian Gulf - hot start on the ramp. Edited December 7, 2019 by Surrexen
Shotsx74 Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 the screens are apparently a "request"... and not a bug. Especially for VR users who can't really even see them. As for the lights I haven't noticed a change / difference. Every topic that gets created about dim screens gets moved even though in Wags' videos their bright as ****.
hflag Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 For the interior lights and particularly the instrument panel flood light, here's what I get since the last patch. I have to admit the light is a little more vsible in game. Although I pushed the brightness on this image, the difference is hard to see. Can someone post a screenshot of a working instrument panel flood light with the last patch because my other post on the subject is tagged [cannot reproduce]
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 definitely dimmer than before. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
Dee-Jay Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 Hi! For the interior lights and particularly the instrument panel flood light, here's what I get since the last patch. I have to admit the light is a little more vsible in game. Although I pushed the brightness on this image, the difference is hard to see. That is perfectly realistic. By day, floodlight or backlit are "not" visible. Floodlight or backlit are made to allow the pilot to read its panels / instruments by night without polluting his night vision ... not to be bight like a Xmas tree ;) That one of the best success of DCS-16 so far. IMHO, they should not make it brighter. Regards. ASUSTeK ROG MAXIMUS X HERO / Intel Core i5-8600K (4.6 GHz) / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FE 12GB / 32GB DDR4 Ballistix Elite 3200 MHz / Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB / Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 1000W Platinum / Windows 10 Home 64-bit / HOTAS Cougar FSSB R1 (Warthog grip) / SIMPED / MFD Cougar / ViperGear ICP / SimShaker JetPad / Track IR 5 / Curved LED 27'' Monitor 1080p Samsung C27F396 / HP Reverb G2 VR Headset.
Bagpipe Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 I could not see instrument floodlight at all on night free flight mission with gamma setting at 1.5 as it always has been. Dramatically dimmer/useless. I ramped gamma up to 1.9 which is too high imo as darker areas become greyed instead of black. At this level i can just make out the flood.
Bagpipe Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 here is the same scene moments later with inst flood turned off completely. Not a huge difference at all. How can this not be a bug?
Bagpipe Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 They are also still causing a 10fps drop when on (see fps counter top left in screens)
hflag Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 Absolutely, I have the very same result at night. If it works as before for someone, because it's [no bug]!!!, please post a screenshot at night with floodlight set to max.
Bagpipe Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 I get what they mean by "No bug", they mean it is "As intended", man i've never been in a viper cockpit never mind at night but surely the flood up full is slightly brighter at least?
Surrexen Posted December 7, 2019 Author Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) I'm not talking about the floodlight, just the instrument lights and screens. They are dimmer when set to full than the last patch. The floodlights have their own issues separately. Edited December 7, 2019 by Surrexen
pimp Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 In VR, the floodlights are very dim compared to before. If this is the correct way they work, then a heads-up would suffice either when marking this thread as "[NOT A BUG]" or in the patch notes. i9 14900k @5.6GHz NZXT Kraken |Asus ROG Strix Z790 A-Gaming | Samsung NVMe m.2 990 Pro 2TB | 64GB DDR5 6400MHz EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | PiMAX CRYSTAL LIGHT | HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Flight Pedals
Bagpipe Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 I'm not talking about the floodlight, just the instrument lights and screens. They are dimmer when set to full than the last patch. The floodlights have their own issues separately. Yes they are all dimmer in general and the curve when using the dial is very heavily top ended i.e. nothing until up full
Darcwaynard Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 I was testing the lights again and found that when set to an axis rotary the instrument panel lights are able to be turned up all the way. Afterwards I tested using the knobs with the mouse and they only turn up to about 80%. Seems like a bug to me. Sent from my SM-A530W using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Amd Fx 8350 4.3 GHz - MSi Gtx 1060 6gb - 16gb DDR3 A-10C - AV8B - F-5E - Mig-21 - FC3 - CA - UH-1H - Black Shark - AJ3-37 - M-2000C - F-16C Viper - F-86F - Spitfire - Fw-190 - F/A-18C - F-14 - Normandy - NTTR - Persian Gulf
hflag Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Brilliant idea and good catch! It's better in VR with the full knob range but I still think the 100% floodlight setting should be brighter. I agree with DEE-JAY when he says that the pit should not look like a Christmas tree and ruin our (virtual) night vision but the rehostat is there to fine tune the lighting in relation to ambiant lighting and the amount of time spent in the dark.
Darcwaynard Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Can we get another look at this? Console, instrument panel and DED lights, unable to turn up to 100% by clicking and dragging the mouse. To reproduce set any of these functions to a hotas rotary knob and turn up all the way. I'm using an X55. If you look at the knob in the cockpit you'll see its turned all the way up. (roughly 5 o'clock.) Now, try and turn up any of these three knobs with your mouse and you'll notice that they only make it to the 3 o'clock position (roughly 80%) brightness. Please fix this I don't want to use my rotary knobs for cockpit lighting. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Amd Fx 8350 4.3 GHz - MSi Gtx 1060 6gb - 16gb DDR3 A-10C - AV8B - F-5E - Mig-21 - FC3 - CA - UH-1H - Black Shark - AJ3-37 - M-2000C - F-16C Viper - F-86F - Spitfire - Fw-190 - F/A-18C - F-14 - Normandy - NTTR - Persian Gulf
Harker Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Can we get another look at this? Console, instrument panel and DED lights, unable to turn up to 100% by clicking and dragging the mouse. To reproduce set any of these functions to a hotas rotary knob and turn up all the way. I'm using an X55. If you look at the knob in the cockpit you'll see its turned all the way up. (roughly 5 o'clock.) Now, try and turn up any of these three knobs with your mouse and you'll notice that they only make it to the 3 o'clock position (roughly 80%) brightness. Please fix this I don't want to use my rotary knobs for cockpit lighting. :)This. After seeing your comment, I tested it as well and you're right. With the mouse, they go up to a certain point and only by binding them to an axis (I used the Warthog throttle slider separately for each one) can you go to 100%. Definitely a bug. Console back-light, Instrument panel back-light, DED and Instrument panel floodlights. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
hflag Posted December 14, 2019 Posted December 14, 2019 This. After seeing your comment, I tested it as well and you're right. With the mouse, they go up to a certain point and only by binding them to an axis (I used the Warthog throttle slider separately for each one) can you go to 100%. Definitely a bug. Console back-light, Instrument panel back-light, DED and Instrument panel floodlights. I used the 2 warthog throttle axis, the throttle slider and the X and Y joystick axis to have all the knobs at the same time set to axis and indeed the knobs go all the way up to 100% but stop at 80% or so when the mouse is used. How can this still be tagged [NOT A BUG]? Please compare the 100% (mouse) knob position in your Viper with the attached picture.
Bagpipe Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Very strange, hopefully it is just a quick fix for us mouse users. I would also prefer an option in settings to choose between VR optimizations in the pit or not as making it too dark for non VR users to operate is entirely unfair. We are all paying for these modules, VR or not.
Bagpipe Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 I used the 2 warthog throttle axis, the throttle slider and the X and Y joystick axis to have all the knobs at the same time set to axis and indeed the knobs go all the way up to 100% but stop at 80% or so when the mouse is used. How can this still be tagged [NOT A BUG]? Please compare the 100% (mouse) knob position in your Viper with the attached picture. Is this being addressed soon? I mouse click the controls so seems it should be a very simple fix, kind of upsetting it hasn't been dealt with yet tbh :huh:
Darcwaynard Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 Is this being addressed soon? I mouse click the controls so seems it should be a very simple fix, kind of upsetting it hasn't been dealt with yet tbh :huh:+1 Sent from my SM-A530W using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Amd Fx 8350 4.3 GHz - MSi Gtx 1060 6gb - 16gb DDR3 A-10C - AV8B - F-5E - Mig-21 - FC3 - CA - UH-1H - Black Shark - AJ3-37 - M-2000C - F-16C Viper - F-86F - Spitfire - Fw-190 - F/A-18C - F-14 - Normandy - NTTR - Persian Gulf
FoxTwo Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 Can we at least get it relabeled from [NOT A BUG] to [REPORTED] because it's totally a bug and it has been confirmed and reported.
Falconeer Posted December 31, 2019 Posted December 31, 2019 The entire cockpit looks a bit darker too me, which makes the MFD's very hard to read for me, thus barely spending time in the Viper If it was a feature for VR users, why not simply add some sort of setting in the options menu? Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper Afghanistan F-15E Strike Eagle Kola Peninsula Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat F-4E Phantom
hflag Posted December 31, 2019 Posted December 31, 2019 I am wondering if this Viper cockpit lighting issue has become a taboo subject because it is (we are) utterly ignored by ED... quite disappointing, to say the least.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 31, 2019 ED Team Posted December 31, 2019 Hi all We are not ignoring this subject. The team is currently on their Xmas new years break. We do have some changes coming for the lighting but it is a global change for a future patch. I have added a W.I.P Screenshot of what is coming. I will mark the thread acknowledged for now. Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
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