DmitriKozlowsky Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 F-16C is my worst performing mod. WTF?? I get 98-150 FPS average on my other modules. Including hi fidelity. I get 25-40 fps, 50 when looking at the sky, and never even breaks 60 fps. What the bloody 'ell is going on? Good thing it was free trial. WIll be waiting for performance to rise before purchase. ED, I am very disappointed. System: INtel XEON E5-1630 v4, 3-7-4.0 ghz, 64 gb RAM 2666Mhz, Nvidia RTX 2060 Super FE. 2560X1440 1 screen. Vis range: low, Heat blur: low, Shadows: low, Rez of pit displays: 512, MSAA: low, DOF: off, Lens effects: Dirt+Flare, Motion Blur: off, SSAA: off, SSLR: off, Aniso Filter: 4X, Terrain Shadows: Flat, Cockpit GI: OFF, Clutter: 200, Tree Viz 40%, Preload rad: 150000, Smoke:1, Gamma: 2.2
ricktoberfest Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 F-16C is my worst performing mod. WTF?? I get 98-150 FPS average on my other modules. Including hi fidelity. I get 25-40 fps, 50 when looking at the sky, and never even breaks 60 fps. What the bloody 'ell is going on? Good thing it was free trial. WIll be waiting for performance to rise before purchase. ED, I am very disappointed. System: INtel XEON E5-1630 v4, 3-7-4.0 ghz, 64 gb RAM 2666Mhz, Nvidia RTX 2060 Super FE. 2560X1440 1 screen. Vis range: low, Heat blur: low, Shadows: low, Rez of pit displays: 512, MSAA: low, DOF: off, Lens effects: Dirt+Flare, Motion Blur: off, SSAA: off, SSLR: off, Aniso Filter: 4X, Terrain Shadows: Flat, Cockpit GI: OFF, Clutter: 200, Tree Viz 40%, Preload rad: 150000, Smoke:1, Gamma: 2.2 I don’t know why everyone keeps doing this, but turn off the lens effects unless you happen to be making a video or something. They are huge resource hogs. As for the rest, I have the f16 and while my frame rates are low, they’re low across the board- not especially bad with the f16
DmitriKozlowsky Posted March 19, 2020 Author Posted March 19, 2020 On my system, Lens Effects regardless of setting have no effect on performance. Up or down.
unknown Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 ... I get 25-40 fps, 50 when looking at the sky, and never even breaks 60 fps. ... Strange, even with the performance hit/bug of 2.5.6 i get 35-40fps(locked) in VR in the Viper with higher settings than you, and way higher in 2D. Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings
supanova Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Almost the first thing I noticed with the F-16 was the drop in frame rate. Learn DCS A-10C with me. Follow my Youtube tutorials here.
BuzzU Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 The first thing I noticed is I can't read the HUD. I won't be buying it. Buzz
imacken Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I don’t know why everyone keeps doing this, but turn off the lens effects unless you happen to be making a video or something. They are huge resource hogs. As for the rest, I have the f16 and while my frame rates are low, they’re low across the board- not especially bad with the f16 I'm the same as DmitriKozlowsky. Lens effects have no effect on my fps at all. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
kengou Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I find in some circumstances it's a bit of a lower framerate than others - comparable with the F-14. Not sure why. But sometimes it's fine. Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD
ricktoberfest Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I'm the same as DmitriKozlowsky. Lens effects have no effect on my fps at all. Hmm- maybe they’ve changed it since the last time I tried
TheGuardian Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 not sure what ya'lls problem is. I get 45-55FPS in VR, 100-125 in 2D in the Viper. No issues at all performance wise here. Do you use the VR shaders mod? Ryzen 9 3900X, ASRock X570 Steel Legend, 32GB RAM, MSI 1070ti. All settings high, No SSAA, SSLR or MSAA. DCS on its own SSD.
Mud Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 What the bloody 'ell is going on? Early access is what is going on. Spoiler W10-x64 | B650E Gigabyte Aorus Master | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Noctua NH-D15 G.Skill Trident ZS Neo DDR5-6000 64Gb | MSI RTX 3080ti Gaming X Asus Xonar AE | VPforce Rhino + TM Hotas Warthog MFG Crosswind pedals | Valve Index
imacken Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 not sure what ya'lls problem is. I get 45-55FPS in VR, 100-125 in 2D in the Viper. No issues at all performance wise here. Do you use the VR shaders mod? It always amuses me when some people think that because they are not having an issue that there is no issue. It also amazes me how some people bang on about that mod. In my opinion, it is a waste of time. For those on high end hardware, it shows almost no performance boost, and the visual degradations destroy all the great work that ED puts into lighting and shading. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
SmoglessPanic Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 It also amazes me how some people bang on about that mod. In my opinion, it is a waste of time. For those on high end hardware, it shows almost no performance boost, and the visual degradations destroy all the great work that ED puts into lighting and shading. It certainly helped me out with my system (i9 9900K, 2080 Super, nvme, Rift S). I get a lot less stutters and it's overall a lot smoother than it was before, it even allows me to stream in VR which I was not able to do before. It also seems less "soupy" than before, I tried the mod with 2.5.5 and didn't notice a difference, I decided to try it again with 2.5.6 and I was pleasantly surprised.
imacken Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 It certainly helped me out with my system (i9 9900K, 2080 Super, nvme, Rift S). I get a lot less stutters and it's overall a lot smoother than it was before, it even allows me to stream in VR which I was not able to do before. It also seems less "soupy" than before, I tried the mod with 2.5.5 and didn't notice a difference, I decided to try it again with 2.5.6 and I was pleasantly surprised. Look, it's each to his own, of course. I am just not prepared to sacrifice huge visual effects for very little performance gain. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
SmoglessPanic Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I get where you are coming from and agree, to each his own. Do you play in VR or 2D? If VR, which heaset?
imacken Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I get where you are coming from and agree, to each his own. Do you play in VR or 2D? If VR, which heaset? See my sig. The mod is really only intended for VR. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
SmoglessPanic Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Ah, I see, I should've noticed. I will upgrade to the Reverb one day.
DmitriKozlowsky Posted March 19, 2020 Author Posted March 19, 2020 I don't have VR. Just a single panel 2560 X 1440 @144 hz.
TheGuardian Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 It always amuses me when some people think that because they are not having an issue that there is no issue. It also amazes me how some people bang on about that mod. In my opinion, it is a waste of time. For those on high end hardware, it shows almost no performance boost, and the visual degradations destroy all the great work that ED puts into lighting and shading. Lucky for me, I don't think that this is no problems, hence saying "Not sure what the problem is" not "There is no problem your equipment sucks". Some people have issues, no doubt, I was simply stating MY personal case. I wasn't "banging" on about the mod, just asked a question if he was using it. I tried it, didn't see any improvement, removed it. God damn dude, I wasn't making a case for him to use it was just asking for more information. I see that is not welcome, so I will shut up.
imacken Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Lucky for me, I don't think that this is no problems, hence saying "Not sure what the problem is" not "There is no problem your equipment sucks". Some people have issues, no doubt, I was simply stating MY personal case. I wasn't "banging" on about the mod, just asked a question if he was using it. I tried it, didn't see any improvement, removed it. God damn dude, I wasn't making a case for him to use it was just asking for more information. I see that is not welcome, so I will shut up. It was the way you worded it. Seemed to me to be a 'what are you all complaining about, I don't have a problem' type thing. Aplogogies if that was wrong. Re mod, I wasn't aiming that at you, it was meant to be a general statement about the enthusiasm that some people show for it. A mystery to me! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Art-J Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I don’t know why everyone keeps doing this, but turn off the lens effects unless you happen to be making a video or something. They are huge resource hogs. With lens effect off, for some absurd reason the sun is rendered only as a white blob on the sky. So you need to turn at least "flare" on to have proper sun rendering. Also, it doesn't seem to have much performance impact nowadays, if any. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Eldur Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 The first thing I noticed is I can't read the HUD. Finally someone. The boys kept saying it was just me Definately an issue in the CV1. Haven't tried pancake mode yet though Still a blast to ride, just needs more zooming and educated guesswork, or simply use the good old steam gauges (although the steps from 0 to M 1 are a real shame, there's just one tick for 0.5 in between) No issues regarding performance though. In 256, DCS runs as bad with the Viper as it does with other modules I sense things might better tomorrow though With lens effect off, for some absurd reason the sun is rendered only as a white blob on the sky. So you need to turn at least "flare" on to have proper sun rendering. Also, it doesn't seem to have much performance impact nowadays, if any. Which is a bloody shame and hopefully gets fixed. Lens flares are totally unrealistic and ugly as well. Just nice to simulate a view through a cam in external views. Which is why I always switch 'em off whereever I come across such an option.
BuzzU Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Finally someone. The boys kept saying it was just me Definately an issue in the CV1. Haven't tried pancake mode yet though Still a blast to ride, just needs more zooming and educated guesswork, or simply use the good old steam gauges (although the steps from 0 to M 1 are a real shame, there's just one tick for 0.5 in between) No issues regarding performance though. In 256, DCS runs as bad with the Viper as it does with other modules I sense things might better tomorrow though Which is a bloody shame and hopefully gets fixed. Lens flares are totally unrealistic and ugly as well. Just nice to simulate a view through a cam in external views. Which is why I always switch 'em off whereever I come across such an option. Yeah, in certain lighting I can't see a thing. In the other sim, we have a shaded face shield on the helmet we can pull down in those situations. It helps a lot and is realistic. Buzz
BuzzU Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I'll probably buy it anyway. I'm a sucker for the Viper. Plus, $40 is less painful for an unfinished plane. Buzz
Dav IRL Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I'll probably buy it anyway. I'm a sucker for the Viper. Plus, $40 is less painful for an unfinished plane. I bought it this evening, the wide open cockpit is a joy and the sound and visuals are top notch. I look forward to watching this progress. 4.8 I7, 1080, TMW&T, SSD, VKB MK.IV.
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