Corsair time frame?

[_Hoss]

4 hours ago, AG-51_Razor said:

It might also be important to keep in mind that the USAAF was able to "retire" the Jug from the pure air to air fighter role with the introduction of the P-51D and assign it to a fighter-bomber role, which it accelled in. The US Navy didn't have the luxery of large air bases with acres and acres of parking for several types of aircraft specializing in various roles. The Corsair showed itself to be every bit as capable a pure fighter as the Hellcat but was just a little late to the party having to work out the carrier suitability issues that plagued it early on, consequently most of the deck and hangar space was already spoken for by the F6F, TBM and SB-2C. As the war dragged on though, the Navy decided to begin cutting down on the number of SB-2C's and TBM's assigned to the air group and placed Corsairs aboard that could fulfill both roles as a fighter and bomber.

yer my hero Razor..................   Love ya man! When we get them, we need the Essex, Panthers, Skyraiders.... and Korea...

[AG-51_Razor]

Is that when you're going to start flying with us again?? Can't wait my friend. Stay close to the AC Hoss, I hear that it occaisionally gets a bit warm down there in the valley

Edited June 26, 2022 by AG-51_Razor
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[_Hoss]

When they roll out the SLUF (A-7) I'll definitely learn that one too, also can't wait for the Bearcat.  The first real Simulation of it I have seen, along with Corsair will be nice.  Just hope our old asses live long enough to see it.. LOL  But I'd love to see an SB2-C and TBF/M...

Cheers

 

Edited June 27, 2022 by 352nd_Hoss

[Dr_Wigglespank]

It's been over three years since I made this thread. Boy, time flies... unlike this particular module.

Still very much looking forward to it, though.

[DishDoggie]

At 67 years of age I can't help to look at time in a more Short kind of way. 3 years is the Average life span of Most CPU's for Gaming Computers. I just updated mine. Most Motherboards and RAM will serve you on a Average of 10 years. Most GPU's will Average at 5 years. I just updated my GPU as well. In the "todays market" Value of your Money to purchase parts is getting to a point that you need a BIG investment to build or buy a computer for gaming today. How long with it last? Here in DCS I find myself asking myself how long will it take to see Vietnam and WWII Pacific DCS game Play and For Me (at 67) it ain't looking good. This brings me back around to your over 3 years since you made this thread. My Grandaughter turns 3 this month. Think about it when I built my first DCS Computer to play this Simulator It cam in at $1,200 if you want a top of the line rig to your GPU will run $1,200 to $1600 How long can this last? Will we still be playing in 10 years? Lol you may not know me or ever will but I was here in this time with you all and I had fun. So with luck you will last the test of time in DCS. Where will DCS World be in 30 Years?

[Rudel_chw]

11 hours ago, DishDoggie said:

Here in DCS I find myself asking myself how long will it take to see Vietnam and WWII Pacific DCS game Play and For Me (at 67) it ain't looking good.

I’m 65 and your post made me laugh … at how true it is  .. I’ve played DCS over 10 years now, and I’ve enjoyed it so much .. it sure has its faults, but overall its the best Sim I’ve ever played. Hope my body can last me for another 10 years of play at least 

[DishDoggie]

9 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

I’m 65 and your post made me laugh … at how true it is  .. I’ve played DCS over 10 years now, and I’ve enjoyed it so much .. it sure has its faults, but overall its the best Sim I’ve ever played. Hope my body can last me for another 10 years of play at least 

Lol Best of Luck Brother. Plus I have got Really Good Help out of You along the way so We need to keep you around as long as we can. lol born 1955 in the 60's dreaming as a kid about playing like I do no in VR in my imagination and getting to have it come real as a old man  I'm loving it lol

[NavyAce]

I have been eagerly awaiting the release of the Corsair as I am interested in WWII aircraft for DCS (esp Pacific Theater). Unfortunately most of the new releases seem to be for contemporary jets. I have the P-51D, P-47D, and could use the Corsair not to mention my favorite the Hellcat and a Zero to fight against it and a WWII straight deck carrier to operate from. Has anyone heard about a Beta release date for the F4U? Also looking for the WWII Marianas scenery. Thanks. NavyAce 

[NIAGARA MOHAWK]

Many have tried to get info about the WWII Marianas / Hellcat / Corsair. ED replay is just Crickets !! 

seems the WWII crowd are just considered unwanted step children to be Ignored  and kept in a dark closet with no food and water ... all the Pacific stuff could be just smoke and mirrors to keep you looking  and try to suck you into buying some of the jets / eggbeaters .... that some may just NOT want --- i have bought some  jets and maps that I really did not want , but to support them with some extra $$ .= Never Again !!  -- those have since been deleted to free up SSD space .. fool me once shame on ED , fool me twice shame on Me ....  == so ED  when can we expect to see some of the WWII  Pacific planes and maps ???  any other WWII stuff coming our way ==== 1 ,   2  ,  3  ,, 4  == Crickets ....

 

[Rudel_chw]

11 minutes ago, NIAGARA MOHAWK said:

i have bought some  jets and maps that I really did not want , but to support them with some extra $$ .= Never Again !!  -- those have since been deleted to free up SSD space .. fool me once shame on ED , fool me twice shame on Me .... 

 

I’ve been the same, purchasing every item that showed up on the ED store just to better support this Sim … but on my case I don’t get upset with the slow release of WW2 items, as Dcs always has something else to fly while we wait … but the Razbam problem was it for me, no more purchases until the issue is cleared 

[NIAGARA MOHAWK]

== Not  upset with the slow release of WW2 items  == Its the lack of info  or answering of simple questions .. 

[Art-J]

Even though I'm primarily a warbird enthusiast myself, I don't think ED's "fooling" anybody. WWII, together with Combined Arms and Supercarrier have always been sort of side projects for ED (just like TC and FC are for Il-2GB franchise) and they've been honest about it. All 3rd parties with exception of M3 and Octopus are not interested in such content either, 'cause majority of DCS customers have always been and will always be more modern aviation entusiasts. Which is fine - ED is just a company that focuses on their specialty they have most practical experience with (while also enjoying lack of competition - no, Falcon BMS doesn't quite count).

Which inevitably means progress on WWII side will always be rather slow and info which can be shown in newsletters (ie. WIP screens and clips) will be ready only every half of year or so. There will be "crickets" if there's simply nothing ready to be shown - simple as that. 

 

 

[Bowie]

 

On 8/2/2023 at 5:02 PM, Rudel_chw said:

I’m 65 and your post made me laugh … at how true it is  .. I’ve played DCS over 10 years now, and I’ve enjoyed it so much .. it sure has its faults, but overall its the best Sim I’ve ever played. Hope my body can last me for another 10 years of play at least 

Optimists - are constantly disappointed.

Pessimists - are pleasantly surprised.

 

CFS2 got me wedded to the PTO.

But with all the work on the P-51D-25 N/A, both the DCS upgrades such as flight and damage mdl's, combined with the new 40-30deg view settings and 1.5 Gama, the Mustang has become an outstanding piece of fightin' machine.

And that's what matters, the gun platform performance.

With this setup - no zooming/labels/maps.

Jump into a cold/dark A/C, navigate by instruments and terrain, find and fight with the Mk.1 eyeball and the seat of your pants, and them make it back home in one piece.

98% of the simulation.

 

Bowie

Edited August 17, 2024 by Bowie

[dcn]

It's a shame there are only two third parties developing WWII aircraft module for DCS,there even aren't many people developing mods.

[Gunfreak]

18 hours ago, dcn said:

It's a shame there are only two third parties developing WWII aircraft module for DCS,there even aren't many people developing mods.

Probably a chicken and the egg thing.

WW2 isn't big enough in DCS, so it doesn't sell well.

It doesn't sell, so WW2 never gets priority.

WW2 doesn't get priority, so it doesn't sell, and 3rd party developers are not interested in getting into into something that doesn't sell and doesn't get priority. 

 

I'm sure WW2 DCS could be a big hit. Talking the place of that other sim. That's now going to Korea.

But it would require a major investment in time and money from ED and we aren't getting it. Half the time half the warbirds have engine breaking bugs.

[NavyAce]

I would like to say that in spite of my disappointment with the selection of aircraft modules on DCS I will acknowledge that the ones that are release represent the zenith of flight simulation in terms of realism. I cut my teeth on CFS2 and played it for years as it was Pacific oriented and the only real WWII combat sim around. I later got CFS3, B-17 The MIghty Eighth, the entire IL-2 franchise, and even played Mig Alley for a while. I still enjoy IL-46 even though by today's standards the graphics and the scenery are not as good, but it allows me to add a lot of extra planes from other developers, including many interesting types such as the Sky Pirate, Curtiss SBC, and Fokker T.V that are not available on other platforms. I also have FSX and have almost 100 third party and commercially available aircraft add ons as well as a bunch of scenery programs. However, for total immersion and realism you can't beat DCS. I have all the WWII flight manuals for my WWII aircraft and can fly the by the book, using real procedures and check lists. This is a big thing for me being a retired airline pilot used to such things. So I will continue to laud DCS for its products while wishing for a bit more diversity, and will keep looking in from time to time to hope for a surprise. NavyAce

 

[dcn]

4小时前，Gunfreak说：

Probably a chicken and the egg thing.

WW2 isn't big enough in DCS, so it doesn't sell well.

It doesn't sell, so WW2 never gets priority.

WW2 doesn't get priority, so it doesn't sell, and 3rd party developers are not interested in getting into into something that doesn't sell and doesn't get priority. 

 

I'm sure WW2 DCS could be a big hit. Talking the place of that other sim. That's now going to Korea.

But it would require a major investment in time and money from ED and we aren't getting it. Half the time half the warbirds have engine breaking bugs.

This can't explain why there is only only mod(Lancaster). I think the most important reason is that most developers are not interested in WWII,Crosstail is developing A-1H but it's not WWII aircraft,people seem to prefer scenes like Veitnam more.It's actually more profitable to develop WWII aircraft because it's much easier to develop than cold war aircraft and the price is not much cheaper.(I know this statement may not be accurate because information about WWII aircraft may be harder to find, but in terms of aircraft system complexity) 

Additionally, the difficulty of developing DCS modules may have made developers unwilling to develop WWII aircraft.MSFS has more WWII aircraft than DCS. IndiaFoxtEcho and FlyingIron are more willing to develop MSFS products.

[Nealius]

There's also less demand for WW2 because there is an already well established competitor that, while lacking in clickable cockpit and systems fidelity, has superior gameplay and damage model. DCS has no competitors for helos and post-WW2.

[Gunfreak]

9 hours ago, dcn said:

This can't explain why there is only only mod(Lancaster). I think the most important reason is that most developers are not interested in WWII,Crosstail is developing A-1H but it's not WWII aircraft,people seem to prefer scenes like Veitnam more.It's actually more profitable to develop WWII aircraft because it's much easier to develop than cold war aircraft and the price is not much cheaper.(I know this statement may not be accurate because information about WWII aircraft may be harder to find, but in terms of aircraft system complexity) 

Additionally, the difficulty of developing DCS modules may have made developers unwilling to develop WWII aircraft.MSFS has more WWII aircraft than DCS. IndiaFoxtEcho and FlyingIron are more willing to develop MSFS products.

Lack of WW2 support from ED would naturally affect modders too. 

Would you spend thousands of hours making a free mod only for it to exist in a half baked environment?

I applaud the guys making the Lanc. But it will almost be as much a duck out of water as the I-16. There is no ground work for ww2 night operations. No ww2 night fighter system. No real German night fighter (the A8 being the closest) the Lanc did do a few days time mission but those were rare. 

IndiaFoxtEcho and FlyingIron can make ww2 aircraft for MSFS because you don't need any environment around them. It just aircraft to fly in. And people wanna fly WW2 planes.

In DCS the aircraft should fit into some time and place.

I'd love the 109G from FlyingIron in DCS.

But there is so much lacking in WW2 DCS, it feels very unsupported. So they probably don't want to get into that can of worms. As of now it seems at least 3 of the warbirds,(Spit, 47 and D9)  have unexplained engine failure. 

This limits their use online, but you can just forget about doing paid campaigns with them. I'm not spending 2 hours doing a meticulously made campaign mission, just to fail because of some engine bug.

[BIGNEWY]

We understand that the pace of development may feel slow to some, but we must work within the resources available to us. While we are committed to delivering new WWII content, we also need to carefully consider the return on investment. This often results in smaller teams, which can impact the timing of new releases.

We recognize that some members of this forum may find it challenging to remain optimistic, especially if our plans or timelines don’t align with your expectations. However, please understand that in order to continue providing WWII content, we must be strategic in how we allocate our resources.

With that said please try to stay on topic here in this thread, topic is for the corsair 

thank you 

[NIAGARA MOHAWK]

OK : thank you BIGNEWY for your response , that is all understood and accepted  ..

but than again , Not even a Hint of your idea of an ETA of Marianas WWII map or F6F Hellcat ? 

note : we all know ETA  means  == ESTIMATE ...  Please give us something  == Thank you .. 

[BIGNEWY]

1 minute ago, NIAGARA MOHAWK said:

OK : thank you BIGNEWY for your response , that is all understood and accepted  ..

but than again , Not even a Hint of your idea of an ETA of Marianas WWII map or F6F Hellcat ? 

note : we all know ETA  means  == ESTIMATE ...  Please give us something  == Thank you .. 

Hi, I can not give a time frame sorry, if I do and it changes people lose their minds run to reddit and down vote me  

We will share news when we are ready to, I hope we can soon. 

thank you 

 

[NIAGARA MOHAWK]

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Copy Check !!   Hopefully Soon   IS   Soon ... I will leave you alone now .. Good Day Sir ..

[Slippa]

I won’t.  

Any movement on this? Can you knock the shed door and wake the ol fella up please? 

Tell him “it’s time” and pat him on the shoulder. “More props please, can we have our Corsair”