FALKLANDS MAP

[Ian Boys UK]

On 6/15/2022 at 3:29 PM, MIghtymoo said:

With a 2625 feet runway, it is limited to the Harrier and Viggen jets I would guess?

Yak-52 pleasure flights

[One Eyed Ross]

On 6/11/2022 at 1:43 PM, mmarques said:

Yea.. I might have sheep-napped them all

 

Mint sauce, mint sauce, mint sauce.....

[Mike Force Team]

Maybe some of the sheep were transported to Antarctica.

[Hawkeye60]

For Additional sheep, to place where you wish, see here,

[QuiGon]

On 6/15/2022 at 12:28 PM, YoYo said:

Expect an invasion.  (btw. WIP but good eye!)

[Mogster]

On 6/12/2022 at 1:09 AM, Rudel_chw said:

Strange that the internal name of the Map is not "South Atlantic", but "Falklands" 

 

I get the impression that the map was intended from its inception to support 1982 content from Razbam. I have to say, what’s the point of it otherwise? That’s certainly how it appeared from the Ron Zambrano interview on the podcast. Zambrano loves the Harrier and RN Harriers in particular. The in game Harrier was intended to be a GR7 + RN carrier but it didn’t work out.

It seems the 1982 content especially the SHAR has proved more difficult to realise than RAZBAM expected. Unfortunately the UK is famously cagey about details of its military hardware, even stuff that is 40 years old…

 

[silverdevil]

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[Bremspropeller]

On 7/27/2022 at 7:36 PM, QuiGon said:

Having been to Santiago earlier this year, I'm wondering how the Argentinians planned to make it into the Santiago basin. The mountain-range just east of the city rises steeply to a height on average above 3000m MSL, with Cerro el Plomo reaching almost 5500m MSL. Valpariso is a 2h bus ride from Santiago, over another, lower mountain range with few passageways, so it's ideal ambush-country.

Call me a pessimist, but I think the probability of success would have been less than their Malvinas/ Falklands adventure.

[QuiGon]

26 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

Having been to Santiago earlier this year, I'm wondering how the Argentinians planned to make it into the Santiago basin. The mountain-range just east of the city rises steeply to a height on average above 3000m MSL, with Cerro el Plomo reaching almost 5500m MSL. Valpariso is a 2h bus ride from Santiago, over another, lower mountain range with few passageways, so it's ideal ambush-country.

Call me a pessimist, but I think the probability of success would have been less than their Malvinas/ Falklands adventure.

I guess the Argentinians realized that too at the very last moment and thus canceled the invasion just moments after it started

On a more serious note: I can imagine they counted a lot on air superiority and air support to make these movements possible

Edited September 4, 2023 by QuiGon

[Bremspropeller]

11 minutes ago, QuiGon said:

On a more serious note: I can imagine they counted a lot on air superiority and air support to make these movements possible

That's a possibility, but I think you're right in that they've just realized in time how dumb their plan was.

On the flight into Santiago they'll tell you to sit down and strap in quite early, due to unexpected turbulence happening all the time - a no brainer, given the terrain. Sitting in a C-130 going over the Andes in $hitty weather doesn't really rank too highly on my bucket list.

The minimum safe altitude in the region is quite high and might have an impact on performance. Superficially related:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571

 

A nice idea for a MP mission/ server, nonetheless.

[Rudel_chw]

3 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

...  I'm wondering how the Argentinians planned to make it into the Santiago basin. The mountain-range just east of the city rises steeply to a height on average above 3000m MSL, with Cerro el Plomo reaching almost 5500m MSL. Valpariso is a 2h bus ride from Santiago, over another, lower mountain range with few passageways, so it's ideal ambush-country.

Call me a pessimist, but I think the probability of success would have been less than their Malvinas/ Falklands adventure.

 

Agree ... the mountain pass for both Santiago and valparaiso is the same single route: "Paso Libertadores", and most likely Chile would have blown-up bridges and tunnels of that road as soon as argentinian troop movement started. Chile learned a lot from both that attempt by Argentina and from similar plans by the Peru of Fujimori's era; thats why currently Chile has kept upgrading its military over the last 30 years, to the point that it now surpasses both Peru, Bolivia and Argentina combined.

 

Pity that so much money gets wasted on 3rd world countries, but unfortunately the recent events in Ukraine have shown that peace can't be trusted anymore.

[Gunfreak]

On 9/4/2023 at 3:52 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 

Agree ... the mountain pass for both Santiago and valparaiso is the same single route: "Paso Libertadores", and most likely Chile would have blown-up bridges and tunnels of that road as soon as argentinian troop movement started. Chile learned a lot from both that attempt by Argentina and from similar plans by the Peru of Fujimori's era; thats why currently Chile has kept upgrading its military over the last 30 years, to the point that it now surpasses both Peru, Bolivia and Argentina combined.

 

Pity that so much money gets wasted on 3rd world countries, but unfortunately the recent events in Ukraine have shown that peace can't be trusted anymore.

Chile isn't a 3rd world country under any definition you use it(cold war political, or modern financial)

Chile has a very high human index value, above counties like Russia, Slovakia,,Turkey and Qatar. And just below Portugal. 

[jackd]

And they publicly recognize UFOs mind you. Wish we had them in DCS for impossible chase hunts.

[Rudel_chw]

On 9/5/2023 at 6:42 PM, Gunfreak said:

Chile isn't a 3rd world country under any definition you use it(cold war political, or modern financial)

Chile has a very high human index value, above counties like Russia, Slovakia,,Turkey and Qatar. And just below Portugal. 

 

I hadn't seen your post earlier, but here is my comment anyway:

 

I live in Chile and so I can see first hand that we have not yet attained a first world status, our corrupt government couldn't care less about the living conditions of the majority of its citizens. Just a sample, there are plenty more:

 

 

 

 

 

... yet I understand that we need to spend a lot on Defense, or else the corrupt governments of our neighbors could be tempted into conquering our terrtitory.

 

[Gunfreak]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

I hadn't seen your post earlier, but here is my comment anyway:

 

I live in Chile and so I can see first hand that we have not yet attained a first world status, our corrupt government couldn't care less about the living conditions of the majority of its citizens. Just a sample, there are plenty more:

 

 

 

 

 

... yet I understand that we need to spend a lot on Defense, or else the corrupt governments of our neighbors could be tempted into conquering our terrtitory.

 

This is very real world modern poltics. But many countries have these kinda places, without being classed as 3rd world. Including the USA, as a mobile doctor who travel to many places in the US to give free medical treatment to poor neighbourhoods. And he states that these places would absolutely be classed as 3rd world if they weren't part of the US.  I think you'll find many places in many countries that could be classed as 3rd world even if the country isn't. I think all countries outside of western Europe, Japan, and an New Zealand will have some places like these.

 

There are obviously too much spending on military in many countries. And sadly this is now also happening in countries that used not spend so much on it. 

[Rudel_chw]

26 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

This is very real world modern poltics. But many countries have these kinda places, without being classed as 3rd world.

 

Probably the thing that pisess me off the most, regarding my country, is the huge difference in standards allowed by the government, for example the minimum salary is around US$ 530 (please keep in mind that many many people do not reach this minimum as they work without contracts or on their own or are unemployed), while the same politicians that set this minimum salary earn US$ 7,400 (plus an expense allowance of around US$ 9,000 ... monthly figures for a Senator) ... and this does not take into account the extra money that politicians earn through influence trading.

 

In my opinion, these inequalities are the true mark of a 3rd world country ..