memoric Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Hello So in the controlls page on chuck's F/A-18 Guide is a button mapped with MIDS A and MIDS B. I didn't find any information about it in the guide. What does MIDS A/B? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 voice channels that use the MIDS/Link16 network rather than radios. 1 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoric Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 See DCS manual page 236 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourorborus Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 How are the MIDS channels used in Mission design? In reality the MIDS give an extra two voice circuits. These could be used for AWACS or flight comms for example, freeing up the VHF/UHF circuits for JTAC/ATC etc. How then do I set the flight or the AWACS to use MIDS rather than a UHF/VHF freq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 How are the MIDS channels used in Mission design? I probably wouldn't worry about that just yet. Very likely still heavily WIP. I would just assume the Hornet has 2 radios only for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Clark Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 As far as I know, they are not implemented in any way in DCS right now. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Yeah in vanilla DCS MIDS does nothing, SRS has recently been updated with MIDS voice functionality though. 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 It could be an indication that those things going to be implemented soon enough. Just my speculation considering Ciribob is one of ED beta testers (CMIIW) so he should know more than us hehehehe Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderOne Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 As far as I know, they are not implemented in any way in DCS right now.Not completely in DCS, you're right, but enough anyway for the SRS external Radio System to simulate those 2 Full Duplex new digital radios that become available in the F/A-18C ! So if you use SRS, then you will have 4 radios available in your fighter : 2 classical radios Half-Duplex and 2 Crypted Full Duplex "MIDS" digital Radios ! Then ... Plenty enough to have 1 channel for your flight, 1 tactical channel for the Package, 1 for the AWACS and 1 on the Guard channel ... for instance ! :thumbup: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborg Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Huh, nice. Though VAICOM would need to be updated too. Ryzen 3600X - RTX 2080 - 32 GB Ram - DCS on SSD. DCS Modules : M2K-C, F18-C, FW-190D, Huey, Gazelle, Black Shark, Mig-15, all maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyonebutme Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 "half-duplex" isn't a thing, the word you're looking for is "simplex". duplex is dual simplex. C/S Boosted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderOne Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 "half-duplex" isn't a thing, the word you're looking for is "simplex". duplex is dual simplex. I know for sure, but apparently ... in the small world of Radio Communications they call those radio : "Half-Duplex Radio" ... :music_whistling: An old habit may be .... I don't know ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourorborus Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Militaries around the world have a knack for generating words like this. I have seen half-duplex used before in technical publications. Other fun ones include: "ET tool" Which stands for "Entrenching tool tool" "Surveilling" instead of "Survey" And pretty much the entire Navy sub language known as "Jack speak" (I.e decks, bulkheads, the head etc.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 simplex: single channel, single direction. one sends, the other receives. that's it. (i.e. TV broadcast) duplex: single channel, both directions simutaneously. I.e. telephone half-duplex: single channel, both directions but only one at a time. I.e. our comms radios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderOne Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 simplex: single channel, single direction. one sends, the other receives. that's it. (i.e. TV broadcast) duplex: single channel, both directions simutaneously. I.e. telephone half-duplex: single channel, both directions but only one at a time. I.e. our comms radiosThanks ... very clear ! So that was right : in the F/A-18C (in DCS with the SRS system) : COM1 & COM2 are 2 Half-Duplex radios. MIDSA & MIDSB are 2 crypted digital Full-Duplex radios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueRunner Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Thanks ... very clear ! So that was right : in the F/A-18C (in DCS with the SRS system) : COM1 & COM2 are 2 Half-Duplex radios. MIDSA & MIDSB are 2 crypted digital Full-Duplex radios. How do you switch them on? In SRS mine always says off in the overlay. With the price of ammunition these days do not expect a warning shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 How do you switch them on? In SRS mine always says off in the overlay. DL puhsbutton on the UFC Press the ON/OFF button to power on the system Press VOCA (MIDS A) or VOCB (MIDS B) to select which MIDS you want Enter a number other than 127 (1-126) Press enter 1 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyG Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Make sure you bind a selector in SRS for radio 3/4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Make sure you bind a selector in SRS for radio 3/4.Also works fine with the in-game buttons for MIDS A and MIDS B. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habu_69 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 OK, but how does one assign a radio frequency to a Mids channel?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 OK, but how does one assign a radio frequency to a Mids channel??You don't assign a radio frequency, you press the UFC D/L button and then select VOCA or VOCB and select a channel between 1-126. You also need to turn on the datalink. After that, you can transmit using the dedicated MIDS A or B buttons on the throttle and receive, to/from anyone on the same channel and same datalink. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vstolmech513 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) OK, but how does one assign a radio frequency to a Mids channel?? Like Harker said, you don't tune a frequency to MIDS, it's an encrypted 'channel' that you select to talk to your flight or anyone else on the same 'channel' So say you're a flight of 2 Hornets for a SEAD tasking and a 2 ship for CAP. You can all have MIDS A on channel 1, then the SEAD flight can have MIDS B on channel 2 and the CAP flight can have MIDS B on channel 3. All of the Hornets can communicate on MIDS A and each separate package can have their own comms on MIDS B. That then leaves you to have COMM 1 tuned to say AWACS, and COMM 2 to common strike package. Now you essentially have four conversations on-going. All you have to do is turn your D/L ON, select the OSB next to VOC A or VOC B, press the channel you want to assign it and press enter. Ensure you have MIDS A/B assigned a control in DCS and SRS, if you use that, and you should be GTG. Edited August 10, 2020 by vstolmech513 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habu_69 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 OK. Got it, thanks. Currently use MIDS for MP human comms and ARC-210 radios for AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 So this is fully implemented? Shame on this long-time Hornet flier, first Ive heard of this. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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