[INCORRECT]ED Charging you to Keep your A-10C

[MAXsenna]

To each his own. It's has been known for sometime v2 will come, full transperancy there, can't remember if they say or not on the store page. Upgraded cockpit was free.

Bought it two weeks ago, already have my moneys worth, but "my" mileage might be different, as I compare everything with shortbuses and six packs!

Cheers!

 

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[Thump]

To each his own. It's has been known for sometime v2 will come, full transperancy there, can't remember if they say or not on the store page. Upgraded cockpit was free.

Bought it two weeks ago, already have my moneys worth, but "my" mileage might be different, as I compare everything with shortbuses and six packs!

Cheers!

 

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Advertisement is now considered transparency?

[Worrazen]

I meant, and I should have been clearer, that once the A-10C II is on sale, it will become the only one available for purchase. But it's still pretty early and we will have more details on how it all works if the II version gets the old and new after that, or what.

 

Right ... if the existing A-10C is a mix of suites that don't actually exist like some rumors say then I guess it can go to retirement, but then I'd be very happy if the new module comes a proper lower suite and higher suite editions, not just the higher suite we're expecting, even tho we really have no idea what level suite would the A-10C 2 be in actually, that's just community perception (unless I missed some official info), if it's not that of a chore to have two editions but both based on the new tech/model and being equally maintained.

 

Question is how many people here would actually benefit from that ... I simply offered a few example use cases I speculated about and that's for missions which try to accurately replicate an era for a fictional story ... or the real-event replicating missions which try to mirror the exact circumstances, and it would make sense to use a more appropriate suite for that era, let's say 1995, if a real pilot that flown it with the lesser A-10C it would not feel authentic doing it with ~2015 level A-10.

 

A real pilot might one day try to just for his own memories play with the old suite if that's the suite he was mostly familiar with in real life.

[MAXsenna]

Advertisement is now considered transparency?

I forgot to quote the post above mine. Regarding not getting value out of the module, unless you had it for the past 10 years. And not buying it now because you know there's an upgraded one somewhere in time. (I found that pretty amusing). Even years if I read 9L correctly.

I know there will be faster cheaper hardware in the future, but I ain't gonna sit and wait for it. I want my fun now. Can even say that about cars, and they're even more expensive.

 

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[NineLine]

You can't assume everyone has been playing the A10C for 10 years and therefore got their money's worth. I almost purchased the A10C if I didn't see this post. And would be mad that it went obsolete after few months.

 

But since we don't know the details on what the price will be and what the discount will be, it's premature to judge either side. I'd be somewhat unhappy if the price was like 80 bucks and discounted to 20. Then I'd be paying 50 bucks total which I would rather spend on something else.

 

It's not pettyness. It's choice. Unless I'm willing to spend $2000 for all the modules, it's about what I can get with what I can spend.

 

There are no plans to make the old one 'obsolete' the only thing that will not be available after II comes out is the purchase of the original one.

[Taz1004]

And not buying it now because you know there's an upgraded one somewhere in time. (I found that pretty amusing). Even years if I read 9L correctly.

I know there will be faster cheaper hardware in the future, but I ain't gonna sit and wait for it. I want my fun now. Can even say that about cars, and they're even more expensive.

 

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Somewhere in time? We talking years or months or weeks? Of course I'm not going to wait years but if you buy new graphic card for $1,000 and in one month new one comes out and the exact one you bought dropped in price to $600... I'd say that's pretty amusing. But as you've said, your mileage may vary.

[MAXsenna]

Somewhere in time? We talking years or months or weeks? Of course I'm not going to wait years but if you buy new graphic card for $1,000 and in one month new one comes out and the exact one you bought dropped in price to $600... I'd say that's pretty amusing. But as you've said, your mileage may vary.

The point beeing, it's half priced now. Upgrade will come with a discount, but we don't know the price of the discount of course. I don't know how the upgrade for the BS1 to BS2 was. Before my time.

We don't know when it will be released, but I guess it's not in the immediate future, but I could be wrong.

If one upgrade, one will have two modules, but if one think one will only use the latest, one should wait of course, especially if one feel one doesn't get the "value" from it. That might be sort of true if it is released next month, but not in a year. I'd say one would miss out then.

 

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[Taz1004]

The point beeing,...

but we don't know the price of the discount of course....

I don't know how the upgrade for the BS1 to BS2 was....

We don't know when it will be released,...

but I guess it's not in the immediate future...

but I could be wrong....

If one upgrade,....

 

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The point being, too many unknowns and variables to make a decision on A10 as you pointed out.

 

I'd say one would miss out then.

 

That'd be true if I have no other option but to play A10.

[pbishop]

There are no plans to make the old one 'obsolete' the only thing that will not be available after II comes out is the purchase of the original one.

 

Hi Nineline,

 

This got me thinking, is there going to be a way for owners to have a choice which block they fly? If I own the old and new, can I elect to fly the older version ? Or once I purchase the new one, the old is done and I wont ever see it again? Might seem like an odd question, but I haven't bothered yet to see what the differences are going to be.

 

The reason I ask is if I fly with friends and they have the older version, it would be nice have the possibility to help them out with controls/issues if I can fly the same aircraft....

 

Thanks

[NineLine]

Hi Nineline,

 

This got me thinking, is there going to be a way for owners to have a choice which block they fly? If I own the old and new, can I elect to fly the older version ? Or once I purchase the new one, the old is done and I wont ever see it again? Might seem like an odd question, but I haven't bothered yet to see what the differences are going to be.

 

The reason I ask is if I fly with friends and they have the older version, it would be nice have the possibility to help them out with controls/issues if I can fly the same aircraft....

 

Thanks

 

I can't really officially say right now as I am not sure, what I personally hope is that we have two versions, sort of like the Spitfire and P-51, and anyone that buys the new one going forward gets both if that makes sense. I am not sure how else it might work, but as I said, I don't have a firm answer yet.

[EasyEB]

I think ED should rip the band aid and kill the old version when the new one is releasted. They are having trouble keeping one version running smooth as is, so having two just seems like a bad idea. There’ll be some initial whine from a handful of people but looking forward it’s just not feasable to keep giving the old one CPR just to keep up.

[jasonbirder]

They are having trouble keeping one version running smooth as is, so having two just seems like a bad idea

 

 

Will they refund the money people have spent on the A10C module if they're no longer able to use it? WIll they refund money spent on DLC like the Maple Flag Campaigns, Baltic Dragons TEW etc if they're no longer functional?

[Thump]

Why should they?

 

If what ED or the creators of the other maps/missions do makes the game as previously purchased makes the game unusable, then that would be a huge foul. For the same reason that today I can install a game from years/decades past and still be able to play it, they should ensure that previous purchases are still honored. From the sounds of it, there shouldn't be any issues per BigNewy and Nineline's posts and the fact that those creators could easily keep the previous versions playable and adapt new missions to the new A-10. I don't see it becoming unplayable unless they intentionally make it so.

[Bob Morton]

Wait a minute! I was going to buy the A-10C because it is 50% off... but are you guys saying a new A-10C is coming out that will make the old one obsolete?? So I should not buy the A-10C at this time?

[randomTOTEN]

So I should not buy the A-10C at this time?

You got a couple years minimum friend... :joystick: If you want to fly the A-10C, buy it now (remember you will get a discount). I'd also recommend the Flaming Cliffs pack as it includes the A-10A which is fun, and a better deal than buying individual Flaming Cliffs jets.

[quyes]

I think ED should rip the band aid and kill the old version when the new one is releasted. They are having trouble keeping one version running smooth as is, so having two just seems like a bad idea. There’ll be some initial whine from a handful of people but looking forward it’s just not feasable to keep giving the old one CPR just to keep up.

 

Sure this makes sense....

 

1 A10-C I is released.

2 F/A18-C is released, kill A10-C I

3 F-16 is released, kill F/A 18-C

4 A10-C II is released, kill F-16.

 

...and that's just a limited list.

 

Unless your suggesting DCS should only ever contain 1 aircraft from each vendor (IE 1 from ED, 1 from RAZBAM, 1 from Heatblur, etc) then this logic is on slightly shaky ground and a very slippery slope. For me, I'm pretty sure ED is capable of supporting multiple aircraft. They kind of have to if DCS is going to continue to offer us a breadth of aircraft to choose from. :) With that said no ones perfect, there will always be bugs introduced as we continue to get updates. The only other option is to let all of DCS go stagnate.

[Grimes]

If it is a new object type then it should start to hammer home the point of needing a new spawn system to be implemented. At this rate having 4 client spawns for each aircraft type will fill up all of the parking spots at Al Dhafra. It is already a limiting factor on the vast majority of airfields in the game. It is a problem that will continue to grow until something is changed and makes supporting mission content for different aircraft that much more annoying.

 

It would be concerning if the updated A-10C got certain quality of life updates that the legacy version wouldn't have. For instance setting radio presets in the editor like most new aircraft have or if various default settings via datacard was implemented.

[Weta43]

Well at least after reading this thread I know where Henny Penny's (chicken little's) offspring ended up.

[Thump]

Well at least after reading this thread I know where Henny Penny's (chicken little's) offspring ended up.

 

Solid Contribution :thumbup:

[Thump]

You guy really need to just not say anything about upcoming products or updates until they’re like a week or two from being released. It would cut down on the months to years of agony in these forums, because FFS these people are just always ready to become unglued and feed each other bad conclusions and stir up hate and discontent on every available platform. Are these histrionics really worth the clicks?

 

 

Good job on being passive aggressive. Was it worth the clicks?

[Taz1004]

You got a couple years minimum friend... :joystick: If you want to fly the A-10C, buy it now (remember you will get a discount). I'd also recommend the Flaming Cliffs pack as it includes the A-10A which is fun, and a better deal than buying individual Flaming Cliffs jets.

 

You serious? Why would ED mention pricing plan for a product that's 2 years out? This whole thread is waste of time.

[EasyEB]

If what ED or the creators of the other maps/missions do makes the game as previously purchased makes the game unusable, then that would be a huge foul. For the same reason that today I can install a game from years/decades past and still be able to play it, they should ensure that previous purchases are still honored. From the sounds of it, there shouldn't be any issues per BigNewy and Nineline's posts and the fact that those creators could easily keep the previous versions playable and adapt new missions to the new A-10. I don't see it becoming unplayable unless they intentionally make it so.

 

It will work on the last version of DCS that supported it.

 

Are you on EA forums whining about not being able to join Battlefield 5 games with your copy of Battlefield 1942?

[Thump]

It will work on the last version of DCS that supported it.

 

Are you on EA forums whining about not being able to join Battlefield 5 games with your copy of Battlefield 1942?

 

#1 The goal of the thread was achieved with a direct, official response from Nineline and BigNewy. If you had taken the time to actually read and comprehend, you wouldn't have bothered with the first statement (I'll go with their word over yours).

 

#2 You get an A for effort with that red herring.

[Dagger71]

To be honest, ANYONE who flies the A10C regularly would love these upgrades.

 

I can't imagine anyone complaining about what has been hinted (JHMCS really?????), but like all forums, we can see that some people will!

[Thump]

That’s not “passive aggressive”, idiot, and I’m not looking for clicks.

 

Solid response. Last response to you as this has deteriorated to a simple name calling.

 

Passive aggressive defined: Passive-aggressive behavior is characterized by a pattern of passive hostility and an avoidance of direct communication.[1]

Edited May 18, 2020 by Thump