AOA Speed feels so slow

[ebabil]

When I hit autothrottle button, plane adjusts its speed to match the necessary aoa speed. And I can clearly see aoa index is correct, but plane feels soo slow and controlling it is very hard, tends to roll to a side. Indicator shows 120 smth knots. For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots

[Sublimearrepentido]

I dont trust that autothrottle. I tried it once and turned it off almost right away

Sorry I cant help more - i land manually. They said theres a ACLS issue maybe SC is affecting this too

[Xenovia]

I think its best if you use auto throttle for ACLS.

[legearre]

I use auto throttle plus dlc as standard, no issues, works well. AoA on-speed is dependent upon your weight

[near_blind]

For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots

 

Bigger plane also means more lifting area, 120 isn't an abnormal landing speed for the Tomcat.

[Tiger-II]

What was your GW? Empty, she flies sloooooowwwwww........

[eatthis]

yup shes got ALOT of lift so 120 is fine

[IronMike]

yep, 124ish around usually on very empty weights. Also I noticed that most folks tend to land fast, naturally as slow means almost always "almost in the drink", so you tend to overcompensate away from the danger, which is fast or "up".

[draconus]

Indicator shows 120 smth knots. For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots

 

What kind of argument is this? Even huge jetliners can land at 130-150kts with lower weight.

[Falby]

I think also some ppl land too fast to avoid "Dutch Roll" I know I did at first until I learned proper use of my rudder!

[captain_dalan]

Even the old JANE'S DB stated the landing speed as 125kts:thumbup:

[Jedrzej]

When I hit autothrottle button, plane adjusts its speed to match the necessary aoa speed. And I can clearly see aoa index is correct, but plane feels soo slow and controlling it is very hard, tends to roll to a side. Indicator shows 120 smth knots. For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots

 

 

That is my case on supercarrier:

 

 

- downwind - turned autothrottle

- groove "on ball" - LOS office talks to me "you to slow" but got "donut"

[Devil_Lettuce]

That is my case on supercarrier:

 

 

- downwind - turned autothrottle

- groove "on ball" - LOS office talks to me "you to slow" but got "donut"

 

Because the LSO doesn't know you're a Tomcat. He's calling everything like it's a Hornet so your 15* approach is going to be slow compared to the Hornets 8*.

[veenee]

I wonder if they ever bother to fix it.

[Svend_Dellepude]

I wonder if they ever bother to fix it.

 

Only time will tell, but I think they will. :)

[Jedrzej]

Because the LSO doesn't know you're a Tomcat. He's calling everything like it's a Hornet so your 15* approach is going to be slow compared to the Hornets 8*.

 

 

But I'm yelling that "Tomcat ball .." :):)

[DD_Fenrir]

... so your 15* approach is going to be slow compared to the Hornets 8*.

 

Woah, major misconception alert.

 

You maybe on approach at 15 Units of AoA in the 'Cat but 1 Unit does not equal 1°.

 

The F-14 glideslope to carrier is 3.5° IIRC and the AOA required is still somewhere in the region of 8°.

 

It's that extra 0.5° glideslope change that's the issue.

[Devil_Lettuce]

Woah, major misconception alert.

 

You maybe on approach at 15 Units of AoA in the 'Cat but 1 Unit does not equal 1°.

 

The F-14 glideslope to carrier is 3.5° IIRC and the AOA required is still somewhere in the region of 8°.

 

It's that extra 0.5° glideslope change that's the issue.

 

OK Mr. Picky-Pants 15*, 15 Units, just slap the DLC to pick a wire :megalol:

[mattag08]

Woah, major misconception alert.

 

You maybe on approach at 15 Units of AoA in the 'Cat but 1 Unit does not equal 1°.

 

The F-14 glideslope to carrier is 3.5° IIRC and the AOA required is still somewhere in the region of 8°.

 

It's that extra 0.5° glideslope change that's the issue.

It's actually closer to 10.5°, which is why you see about 7.5° pitch up when flying the effective glidepath towards the carrier of around 3°. This is also why the LSO thinks you're slow. You're about 2.5° higher AOA than the nominal Hornet.

[IronMike]

it's actually (15-3.715)/1.089 = 10.36 :) (In office we usually say 15 units equals about 10.3°)

[Sideburns]

it's actually (15-3.715)/1.089 = 10.36 :) (In office we usually say 15 units equals about 10.3°)

 

Always wondered what the conversion was, cheers for this handy rule of thumb.