ebabil Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 When I hit autothrottle button, plane adjusts its speed to match the necessary aoa speed. And I can clearly see aoa index is correct, but plane feels soo slow and controlling it is very hard, tends to roll to a side. Indicator shows 120 smth knots. For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublimearrepentido Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I dont trust that autothrottle. I tried it once and turned it off almost right away Sorry I cant help more - i land manually. They said theres a ACLS issue maybe SC is affecting this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenovia Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I think its best if you use auto throttle for ACLS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legearre Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I use auto throttle plus dlc as standard, no issues, works well. AoA on-speed is dependent upon your weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
near_blind Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots Bigger plane also means more lifting area, 120 isn't an abnormal landing speed for the Tomcat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 What was your GW? Empty, she flies sloooooowwwwww........ Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 yup shes got ALOT of lift so 120 is fine 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 yep, 124ish around usually on very empty weights. Also I noticed that most folks tend to land fast, naturally as slow means almost always "almost in the drink", so you tend to overcompensate away from the danger, which is fast or "up". Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Indicator shows 120 smth knots. For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots What kind of argument is this? Even huge jetliners can land at 130-150kts with lower weight. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falby Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I think also some ppl land too fast to avoid "Dutch Roll" I know I did at first until I learned proper use of my rudder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Even the old JANE'S DB stated the landing speed as 125kts:thumbup: Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedrzej Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 When I hit autothrottle button, plane adjusts its speed to match the necessary aoa speed. And I can clearly see aoa index is correct, but plane feels soo slow and controlling it is very hard, tends to roll to a side. Indicator shows 120 smth knots. For a huge plane like this, is it normal? even hornet lands roughly 135-145 knots That is my case on supercarrier: - downwind - turned autothrottle - groove "on ball" - LOS office talks to me "you to slow" but got "donut" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil_Lettuce Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 That is my case on supercarrier: - downwind - turned autothrottle - groove "on ball" - LOS office talks to me "you to slow" but got "donut" Because the LSO doesn't know you're a Tomcat. He's calling everything like it's a Hornet so your 15* approach is going to be slow compared to the Hornets 8*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veenee Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I wonder if they ever bother to fix it. So many modules, so little time... www.mikphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I wonder if they ever bother to fix it. Only time will tell, but I think they will. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedrzej Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Because the LSO doesn't know you're a Tomcat. He's calling everything like it's a Hornet so your 15* approach is going to be slow compared to the Hornets 8*. But I'm yelling that "Tomcat ball .." :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Fenrir Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 ... so your 15* approach is going to be slow compared to the Hornets 8*. Woah, major misconception alert. You maybe on approach at 15 Units of AoA in the 'Cat but 1 Unit does not equal 1°. The F-14 glideslope to carrier is 3.5° IIRC and the AOA required is still somewhere in the region of 8°. It's that extra 0.5° glideslope change that's the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil_Lettuce Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Woah, major misconception alert. You maybe on approach at 15 Units of AoA in the 'Cat but 1 Unit does not equal 1°. The F-14 glideslope to carrier is 3.5° IIRC and the AOA required is still somewhere in the region of 8°. It's that extra 0.5° glideslope change that's the issue. OK Mr. Picky-Pants 15*, 15 Units, just slap the DLC to pick a wire :megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattag08 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Woah, major misconception alert. You maybe on approach at 15 Units of AoA in the 'Cat but 1 Unit does not equal 1°. The F-14 glideslope to carrier is 3.5° IIRC and the AOA required is still somewhere in the region of 8°. It's that extra 0.5° glideslope change that's the issue. It's actually closer to 10.5°, which is why you see about 7.5° pitch up when flying the effective glidepath towards the carrier of around 3°. This is also why the LSO thinks you're slow. You're about 2.5° higher AOA than the nominal Hornet. Flying the DCS: F-14B from Heatblur Simulations with Carrier Strike Group 2 and the VF-154 Black Knights! I also own: Ka-50 2, A-10C, P-51D, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, FC3, F-86F, CA, Mig-15bis, Mig-21bis, F/A-18C, L-39, F-5E, AV-8B, AJS-37, F-16C, Mig-19P, JF-17, C-101, and CEII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 it's actually (15-3.715)/1.089 = 10.36 :) (In office we usually say 15 units equals about 10.3°) Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideburns Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 it's actually (15-3.715)/1.089 = 10.36 :) (In office we usually say 15 units equals about 10.3°) Always wondered what the conversion was, cheers for this handy rule of thumb. Ryzen 5800x@5Ghz | 96gb DDR4 3200Mhz | Asus Rx6800xt TUF OC | 500Gb OS SSD + 1TB Gaming SSD | Asus VG27AQ | Trackhat clip | VPC WarBRD base | Thrustmaster stick and throttle (Deltasim minijoystick mod). F14 | F16 | AJS37 | F5 | Av8b | FC3 | Mig21 | FW190D9 | Huey Been playing DCS from Flanker 2.0 to present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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