Reaper51368 Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 I went back and looked at the update, then went back and checked several past updates. So I dropped my GBU-12 and noticed a difference in the TTI countdown. It gives me a countdown, but the countdown is to LASER. Once the countdown completed, the LTD/R signal turned on and the countdown changed to 9 TTI and sure enough the bombs began tracking. Did they ninja sneak this in? Anybody else notice it?
Wizard1393 Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Yes. Noticed. Idk if I'm doing something incorrent, but the LTD/R switch also turns itself off after every lase, so you have to turn it back on every time. Really annoying. The whole "TRIG" logic appears to be gone completely, at least with bombs. GPU: PALIT NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB | CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4,9GHz | RAM: 64GB DDR4 3000MHz VR: HP Reverb G2 | HOTAS: TM Warthog Throttle and Stick OS: Windows 10 22H2
Madbrood Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 This explains a lot, I was fumbling about looking for the TRIG option. i7-4770k | EVGA GTX 980 SC | 16GB DDR3 | TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals DCS: F-16C, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, AV-8B, FC3, A-10C, Black Shark II, UH-1H, F-86F, MiG-21bis, Mirage 2000C, AJS-37, F-5E :pilotfly:
Reaper51368 Posted May 25, 2020 Author Posted May 25, 2020 TRIG won't be available unless the LTD/R switch is on. Switch probably turns off automatically so it doesn't burn out.
Madbrood Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 TRIG won't be available unless the LTD/R switch is on. It was on prior to me starting my run. Does it automatically turn off even if the laser isn't fired? i7-4770k | EVGA GTX 980 SC | 16GB DDR3 | TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals DCS: F-16C, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, AV-8B, FC3, A-10C, Black Shark II, UH-1H, F-86F, MiG-21bis, Mirage 2000C, AJS-37, F-5E :pilotfly:
Wizard1393 Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 It was on prior to me starting my run. Does it automatically turn off even if the laser isn't fired? Don't know about that. But it seems like boxing TRIG or not boxing it, makes no difference. And actually pulling the trigger while TRIG is boxed to manually lase does nothing right now. The laser will fire automatically if you drop a GBU-12 whether you want to or not. I would care to venture a guess that the automatic lasing should NOT happen if TRIG is boxed. Probably bugged as it is now. GPU: PALIT NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB | CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4,9GHz | RAM: 64GB DDR4 3000MHz VR: HP Reverb G2 | HOTAS: TM Warthog Throttle and Stick OS: Windows 10 22H2
Top Jockey Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 TRIG won't be available unless the LTD/R switch is on. Switch probably turns off automatically so it doesn't burn out. I suppose it's a self protection feature, as if I recall correctly I've read something similar also on other aircraft (i.e. the Su-25T). Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B Kfir Mi-8 MTV2 NTTR F-16 C MiG-23 F/A-18 C MiG-29 MiG-21 bis Mirage III E Mirage 2000 C system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
QuiGon Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 It was on prior to me starting my run. Does it automatically turn off even if the laser isn't fired? I think I've seen it turning off automatically now, when the pod gets masked, even if you're not even lasing anything. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
5ephir0th Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) Now TGP do auto lasing ten seconds before impact, after impact LTD/R always goes Safe automatically. Trig check on FLIR page doesnt makes any difference, doing manual lasing prior to auto lasing neither. This happens only with GBU laser guided bombs, using Maverick E doesnt turn off LTD/R. Havent tried on masked situation. Edited May 25, 2020 by 5ephir0th NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier
AstonMartinDBS Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Due to the announcement in this thread Litening Targeting Pod will not include updates for LTD/R and LST (laser), automatic laser illumination, OFFSET cursor and AA mods.the the Litening TGP shouldn't be able to AUTOLASE with the current OB. Hopefully the Litening will be completed with the next OB release as announced on 3rd June. [Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-4E, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC [Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC [OS] Windows 11 Pro [PC] MSI Pro Z790-A, i9-13900K, 128 GB DDR5, RTX 4090 24 GB GDDR6X, 2 x SSD 990 PRO 2 TB (M.2), Corsair 5000D Airflow, HX1500i, H150i RGB Elite, Acer X28, TM HOTAS Warthog (Grip@WarBRD Base), MS SW FFB2, Thrustmaster TFRP, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro [Checklists] A-10C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D, Ka-50, UH-1H
flavnet Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Every moment we discover something new about the Litening after the last update. Don't you think it's appropriate that for every update of this kind it's right to release even the reference documentation? It's not a game, it's a simulation.
Fri13 Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 How many switches in real hornet cockpit has automatic reset function? i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
5ephir0th Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Due to the announcement in this thread the the Litening TGP shouldn't be able to AUTOLASE with the current OB. Hopefully the Litening will be completed with the next OB release as announced on 3rd June. It does, try it NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier
AstonMartinDBS Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) It does, try itI know, but obviously it wasn't intended. Edited May 26, 2020 by AstonMartinDBS [Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-4E, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC [Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC [OS] Windows 11 Pro [PC] MSI Pro Z790-A, i9-13900K, 128 GB DDR5, RTX 4090 24 GB GDDR6X, 2 x SSD 990 PRO 2 TB (M.2), Corsair 5000D Airflow, HX1500i, H150i RGB Elite, Acer X28, TM HOTAS Warthog (Grip@WarBRD Base), MS SW FFB2, Thrustmaster TFRP, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro [Checklists] A-10C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D, Ka-50, UH-1H
URFIR3D Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Anyone try to buddy lase? Seems broken to me right now. I arm LTD/R, click TRIG on MFD, and pull trigger, it goings from "L ARM" to "LTD/R ON", so laser should be firing, except it's not actually. Buddy with an AGM 65-E won't see a laser. Funny enough if I drop a GBU-12, and the auto lase comes on, that's when they see it. So seems like you can't manually work the laser anymore, which means no buddy lasing. Please advise if you can replicate or you experience something different. I'm using a TGP and GBU12s, buddy was using Laser Mavericks. They didn't have a TGP so we never tried LSS.
Rob Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 How many switches in real hornet cockpit has automatic reset function? Off the top of my head: - APU switch will automatically reset to the off position after the engines have been running for two minutes. - Fuel dump switch will automatically move to the stop position once Bingo fuel has been reached. There are probably others.
RaisedByWolves Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Every moment we discover something new about the Litening after the last update. Don't you think it's appropriate that for every update of this kind it's right to release even the reference documentation? It's not a game, it's a simulation. Its a video game.
Furiz Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Every moment we discover something new about the Litening after the last update. Don't you think it's appropriate that for every update of this kind it's right to release even the reference documentation? It's not a game, it's a simulation. Its a video game. Grabs popcorn;D
VpR81 Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Did anyone notice that they made the LTD/R switch in the cockpit a 2 position (ON/SAFE) switch instead of a 3 position ON/SAFE/AFT) switch prior to the update? Keybinds are deleted for that switch, also for the LST switch. Another thing i noticed with the TGP is it doing weird things when pressing cage/uncage. It won't reset to boresight anymore, but will move to a 180° masked position o.O Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
Reaper51368 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Posted May 26, 2020 The 2 position switch was in the patch notes.
AstonMartinDBS Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Another thing i noticed with the TGP is it doing weird things when pressing cage/uncage. It won't reset to boresight anymore, but will move to a 180° masked position o.OTGP ist still WIP. Let's wait for the next OB update (announced for 3rd June). [Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-4E, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC [Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC [OS] Windows 11 Pro [PC] MSI Pro Z790-A, i9-13900K, 128 GB DDR5, RTX 4090 24 GB GDDR6X, 2 x SSD 990 PRO 2 TB (M.2), Corsair 5000D Airflow, HX1500i, H150i RGB Elite, Acer X28, TM HOTAS Warthog (Grip@WarBRD Base), MS SW FFB2, Thrustmaster TFRP, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro [Checklists] A-10C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D, Ka-50, UH-1H
VpR81 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 The 2 position switch was in the patch notes. Oh realy? I missed that... obviously. TGP ist still WIP. Let's wait for the next OB update (announced for 3rd June). I expected some new smaller bugs, so no complaining here. Was just wondering as i haven´t used the TGP for weeks and wanted to try out auto lasing after reading this thread... there is already a post in the bug section about this. Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
FlyBoyd Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 The TGP will lase when you are in Auto mode. The reason it does it down to 10 seconds to impact is to give the weapon more energy before it starts guiding on the laser. GBU-10s and 12s work with guidance where the fins are moving full deflection when tracking a laser, losing a ton of energy in the process. Most pilots wait for 10 seconds to impact so the bomb is streamlined in the air at 400 knots until then. Intel I9-9900k, Gigabyte AORUS Ultra, 64GB G.SKILL Trident Z Royal 3200, EVGA 2080Ti, Samsung M.2 960 Pro 512, Samsung M.2 960 Pro 1TB, MCG, Vipril, TM Controls, SLAW device rudders, Obutto Revolution, Valve Index
Padonis Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Did anyone notice that they made the LTD/R switch in the cockpit a 2 position (ON/SAFE) switch instead of a 3 position ON/SAFE/AFT) switch prior to the update? Will it stay that way, won't it come back again? I am asking because I now have a bug in my home cockpit ... :( . Edited May 27, 2020 by padonis
Tholozor Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 The AFT position of the LTD/R switch does not apply to our version of the Hornet according to the cockpit foldouts in the NATOPS. It's present on the Super Hornet though on certain Lots. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/
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