wilbur81 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Shouldn't that be normal, though? When sunlight shines on my iPhone screen, computer monitor, or TV, the screen becomes illegible. Or does the military have some super magical screens that block sunlight? The right DDI look natural to you? i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The right DDI look natural to you? [ATTACH]239028[/ATTACH]That very weird effect is because the text is not actually displayed on the DDI, but rather on the protective glass (in DCS, not IRL). It's been reported for more than a year now. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipesm Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Shouldn't that be normal, though? When sunlight shines on my iPhone screen, computer monitor, or TV, the screen becomes illegible. Or does the military have some super magical screens that block sunlight? Choose the mig29 and try to read something on RWR with or without sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur81 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 That very weird effect is because the text is not actually displayed on the DDI, but rather on the protective glass (in DCS, not IRL). It's been reported for more than a year now. That certainly may be, but I've never seen the effect before the latest update. i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL30 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Wouldn't be as big of an issue if we could put our hand over the DDI to cover it from the sun, lol. So many times I've reached my hand out in VR and remembered, "Oh yeah, right." :D i5-9600k @ 5.0 GHz| Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | 32 GB Trident G.Skill RAM @ 3200 MHz | Thermaltake Floe Riing 360 AIO | Samsung EVO 860 500 GB SSD | Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2 | SanDisk 1TB SSD | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra Gaming | EVGA G3 850W Gold PSU | Thermaltake View 71 TG Snow Edition | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFC Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift-S [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 That certainly may be, but I've never seen the effect before the latest update.I've seen it before, but I also run modded textures for better/more dynamic reflections in the F-18 cockpit. It was a very rare thing to spot though, until this last update. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 That very weird effect is because the text is not actually displayed on the DDI, but rather on the protective glass (in DCS, not IRL). It's been reported for more than a year now. Concur. The actual effect on the DDI now is very realistic and well simulated. But the text is drawn incorrectly so that makes a strange effect of wash that all of us feel unrealistic and hard to see. Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur81 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Concur. The actual effect on the DDI now is very realistic and well simulated. But the text is drawn incorrectly so that makes a strange effect of wash that all of us feel unrealistic and hard to see. Nah, It's not necessarily more realistic in the context of our little sim. In real life, a Hornet pilot isn't out of luck if the sun is glaring on a ddi, he can simply hold out his hand to shadow, or better yet - lean his body over a bit to shade the ddi he's working with. We have no such option, so the brightness has to translate a bit into the artificial realm... which it did just fine before this latest update. I don't know because I never play with the 'show pilot body option,' but does the current pilot body model lean left and right with Trackir head movements? I surely doubt that it does. i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Nah, It's not necessarily more realistic in the context of our little sim. In real life, a Hornet pilot isn't out of luck if the sun is glaring on a ddi, he can simply hold out his hand to shadow, or better yet - lean his body over a bit to shade the ddi he's working with. We have no such option, so the brightness has to translate a bit into the artificial realm... which it did just fine before this latest update. I don't know because I never play with the 'show pilot body option,' but does the current pilot body model lean left and right with Trackir head movements? I surely doubt that it does. You missed the point... It is indeed more realistic, but prevents you from seeing anything because of the incorrectly modeled text. If we had that it would read much better. All you said is true, but has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur81 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 You missed the point... It is indeed more realistic, but prevents you from seeing anything because of the incorrectly modeled text. If we had that it would read much better. All you said is true, but has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. What I'm getting at is that, I'm concerned that the text, even if correctly modeled on the DDI screen in the future and not on the glass, will still be too dark when the sun is shining directly on the screen. In other words, I still think we will need a brighter "brightest" setting like we had before to compensate for all I said before, regardless of whether or not they fix the surface that the symbology is displayed on. i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 What I'm getting at is that, I'm concerned that the text, even if correctly modeled on the DDI screen in the future and not on the glass, will still be too dark when the sun is shining directly on the screen. In other words, I still think we will need a brighter "brightest" setting like we had before to compensate for all I said before, regardless of whether or not they fix the surface that the symbology is displayed on. Yes, we may very well need that as well. But we would be already standing in a much better position now if we had a correct coding for the screens, and the need to do what you suggest would be much lower. Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovali Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bug is said to be fixed by the update as of today. Will see when I get home from work ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLaFaille Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bug is said to be fixed by the update as of today. Will see when I get home from work ???? No it's not fixed. Well, the HUD is brighter, but all the other lighting issues are still present. Plus the radar doesn't work on the F-18 now (except bore/ACM), AI aircraft can't be killed, and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur81 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Well, the HUD is brighter, but all the other lighting issues are still present. Correct. i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanstin Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 F-5 EWR button lights are still hard to see, The Hud and Radar range lights have increased brightness back to normal with this patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayrayblues Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Yep, the lighting is off in this new patch. Everything is too bright and turning down gamma just makes cockpits too dark. Not to mention the new haze effect. RCtrl + O may make it brighter. or not. :D Edited June 14, 2020 by rayrayblues SLAVA UKRAINI MoBo - ASUS 990FX R2 Sabertooth, CPU - AMD FX 9590 @4.7Gb. No OC RAM - GSkill RipJaws DDR3 32 Gb @2133 MHZ, GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6Gb DDR5 OC'd, Core 180MHz, Memory 800MHz Game drive - Samsung 980 M.2 EVO 1Tb SSD, OS Drive - 860 EVO 500Gb SATA SSD, Win10 Pro 22H2 Controls - Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X, Monitor - LG 32" 1920 X 1080, PSU - Prestige ATX-PR800W PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Yep, the lighting is off in this new patch. Everything is too bright and turning down gamma just makes cockpits too dark. Yea, its like we have stepped back in time, to the initial release of 2.5. Suffered from the same bright haze and barely readable HUD's. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Please give some love to FC3 planes, latest fix not restored the full max HUD intensity for them. GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I had a very hard time yesterday in the F-16, F/A-18 and Viggen still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 clearly readable HUD poll If you have still problem with actual HUDs, or you feel nostalgic about readability of HUDs of older DCS versions there is a poll in wishlist section: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=280991 GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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