bies Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Since Apache has both pilot and gunner seating inside one canopy it will be great if they have fluent animations, like the one Heatblur did for the F-14. It will be especially important for the pilot seating behind the gunner and seeing him more or less all the time during whole flight. In F-14 this fluent animations are doing great job adding a lot of realism and allowing to believe there is another person seating inside the cockpit. And it looks great in the big F-14 mirrors also. Edited January 26, 2021 by bies 10
Flying.Panda Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) To be honest, as a backseater you hardly see the frontseat. You barely see his helmet moving. Edited January 26, 2021 by EMVO 1
Spatz Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 agree with bies - its super important and makes the difference between great module and fantastic module @Flying.PandaThats what bies is talking about you see him and all his movements - all the time
Remco Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 9:56 AM, bies said: Since Apache has both pilot and gunner seating inside one canopy. That's not actually true. Unlike for example the F-14, the crew stations of the apache are two physically separated cockpits. 23 minutes ago, Spatz said: Thats what bies is talking about you see him and all his movements - all the time That's the opposite of what Panda said. Due to the fact that, again unlike something like an F-14, there's height separation between the crew members. You don't see any more than the top of the front seaters helmet unless you had x-ray vision able to see through your console. HOWEVER we do have a small mirror in the front left of the CPG station that allows us to see each others face when we're talking to each other. 1 1
Sinclair_76 Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 20 hours ago, UnlikelyGM said: That's not actually true. Unlike for example the F-14, the crew stations of the apache are two physically separated cockpits. That's the opposite of what Panda said. Due to the fact that, again unlike something like an F-14, there's height separation between the crew members. You don't see any more than the top of the front seaters helmet unless you had x-ray vision able to see through your console. HOWEVER we do have a small mirror in the front left of the CPG station that allows us to see each others face when we're talking to each other. What's that switch in the center of the left batwing in the frontseat? And what is the mount above the KU used for? Never seen those before.
Spatz Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 Yes but you also have the external view and in vr you can change your position so you don't only see this stiff perspective like in 2d ... and if he moves his head for searching targets or just looking around like the jester in the F14 I think it will be very visible The pilot animation is important for next gen quality and I think since Heatblur did a fantastic job with their pilots this should be the new standard. 3
q800 Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) +1 Exactly-a new standard. It's the same for Mi-24P Edited June 23, 2021 by q800 2
Remco Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Sinclair_76 said: What's that switch in the center of the left batwing in the frontseat? IZLID 3 hours ago, Sinclair_76 said: And what is the mount above the KU used for? Never seen those before. A later addition that won't be in the DCS pre 2010 era model
Remco Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Spatz said: Yes but you also have the external view and in vr you can change your position so you don't only see this stiff perspective like in 2d ... and if he moves his head for searching targets or just looking around like the jester in the F14 I think it will be very visible The pilot animation is important for next gen quality and I think since Heatblur did a fantastic job with their pilots this should be the new standard. Oh don't get me wrong, I totally agree, more pilot animation the better. Hell I'd love hand tracking even more. I was just correcting the false notion that the backseater see's the frontseater's movements by any significant degree. 1
DaemonPhobos Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 hace 11 horas, Sinclair_76 dijo: What's that switch in the center of the left batwing in the frontseat? And what is the mount above the KU used for? Never seen those before. If you mean the panel above the keyboard unit, sometimes they mount an emergency control head for ARC-231 radios there, Echo apaches have a digital secondary flight display instead. These are not going to be implemented. Also, while the cockpit appears to be a single canopy, there is a ballistic shield above the Pilots instrument panel, separating both crewstations. 1
gzj3401 Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 2021/6/22 PM9点07分,UnlikelyGM说: the crew stations of the apache are two physically separated cockpits. Is there a glass window between the two cockpits？
HammerUK9 Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, gzj3401 said: Is there a glass window between the two cockpits？ On 6/23/2021 at 9:23 PM, DaemonPhobos said: Also, while the cockpit appears to be a single canopy, there is a ballistic shield above the Pilots instrument panel, separating both crewstations Yes - a thread elsewhere details it's composition.
FalcoGer Posted October 28, 2021 Posted October 28, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 2:28 PM, Remco said: IZLID What's that? Some kind of IR pointer? I haven't heard about this before? Doesn't the TADS not support IR pointing by default? Are we talking about the rotary switch on the yellow background? Why does it have 4 positions?
kgillers3 Posted October 28, 2021 Posted October 28, 2021 4 hours ago, FalcoGer said: What's that? Some kind of IR pointer? I haven't heard about this before? Doesn't the TADS not support IR pointing by default? Are we talking about the rotary switch on the yellow background? Why does it have 4 positions? Yes izlid is an ir pointer. Off-low-high-pulse.
AlphaOneSix Posted October 28, 2021 Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, kgillers3 said: Yes izlid is an ir pointer. Off-low-high-pulse. Pulse sparkle. My two favorite words. 8 hours ago, FalcoGer said: Doesn't the TADS not support IR pointing by default? No it does not. Edited October 28, 2021 by AlphaOneSix
NeedzWD40 Posted October 28, 2021 Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, AlphaOneSix said: No it does not. Caveat: there is an IR pointer upgrade but I don't know if they ever implemented it or not. However, even if so, it would likely fall out of the timeframe for the DCS AH-64D. I can't speak for Army AH-64D's, but USMC AH-1Ws got an IR laser attached to the M197s after ODS.
ED Team Raptor9 Posted October 28, 2021 ED Team Posted October 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, NeedzWD40 said: Caveat: there is an IR pointer upgrade but I don't know if they ever implemented it or not. However, even if so, it would likely fall out of the timeframe for the DCS AH-64D. No US Army AH-64D's received those upgrades. Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head
jagheterjan Posted October 28, 2021 Posted October 28, 2021 Those upgrades are meant for the -E fleet, Lot 4 specifically. -D Apaches will never get any of the upgrades pictured. Got ninja'd by Raptor.
Wychmaster Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 +1 for the request. A friend of mine finally got the 14 and I joined him as RIO during a sightseeing flight over Syria. We both use VR headsets and it was totally awesome to see where he was looking. The best thing was that I could tell him how to turn his head to find the switches and gauges he was looking for since it was his first flight in the tomcat . 1
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