Roosterfeet Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 The action on my Saitek X-45 has been getting really creaky rough lately. Wax used to help but not so much any more. So I got a tube of non-conductive plastic lube from Radio Shack and applied it to the shaft and the the bottom of the "cone." I succeded in making the action 10x as sticky. Any advice? Other than X-52? Unless you know where I can get one at a large discount... 5800x3D, rtx4070, Quest3 (sometimes)
Vekkinho Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 OK I'm always kidding as U can see. I had no experience with Saitek joystick and I never heard someone having a need to grease it but let me tell you that Cougar that I use requires greasing every 2 or 3 months! I hope there's someone here who'll give you a better advice! I hate being "grounded" due to hardware issues, I know how you feel ATM! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Roosterfeet Posted July 17, 2008 Author Posted July 17, 2008 I've switched over to a Forcefeedback 2 / X-45 throttle combo, so I'm still truckin, I just miss having an extra hat switch and 2 more buttons. But ideally, I would like to get my X-45 as smooth as it was when it was new. Btw, I did expect to attract a certain type of humor with that title ;-) 5800x3D, rtx4070, Quest3 (sometimes)
Esac_mirmidon Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 (edited) I use 3 of this ( i dont know the name in english XDDDD) fixing two circunferences of the spring together at the very end of this plastic fancy, in three points forming a triangle. Tomorrow i take a pic to show you if this ugly english description dont help you. The force that this plastic made in the spring soften the axis of my X-45 and went smooth enough for me. Edited July 17, 2008 by Esac_mirmidon " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
SUBS17 Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 The action on my Saitek X-45 has been getting really creaky rough lately. Wax used to help but not so much any more. So I got a tube of non-conductive plastic lube from Radio Shack and applied it to the shaft and the the bottom of the "cone." I succeded in making the action 10x as sticky. Any advice? Other than X-52? Unless you know where I can get one at a large discount... I had a similar problem how to fix it is get some engine oil(I used a few drops of 4 stroke lawnmower engine oil) and tilt your stick full left or right and pour a bit of oil into the rubber bit above the socket. From there just move the stick left/right/up and down to work the oil in the socket. I find I have to do this every 4-5 months as the oil drys up again. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
Esac_mirmidon Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 My post is serious. Maybe someone are laugh a lot now but this is a real solution for me. XDD Please be kind with me. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
Jagged Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 I use 3 of this ( i dont know the name in english XDDDD) fixing two circunferences of the spring together at the very end of this plastic fancy, in three points forming a triangle. It's call cable tie or zip tie
hitman Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 (edited) You should try some of the things that were mentioned here...they are good advised fixes. Relieving spring tension means the joystick isnt pushed into the pots so hard and it gives you a looser stick in general. Oiling the rubber boots helps too as it prevents dry rot. What I would do, is a combination of the zip ties and taking the joystick apart and lubing the contact pots with some sort of oil like astroglide or KY jelly. Before you do that though, you should clean it up really good with acetone or fingernail polish, if you will. Some 600 grit sandpaper to loosen some of the worn plastic off the contact portion of the joystick (lightly applied and cleaned), and polished up with some 800 grit paper, then 1200 grit if you can find it. You have to be careful with the soldered connections in the stick though...you loosen one and you dont have a schematic, your screwed. I just noticed some of my post may seem gay, but no. The action on my Saitek X-45 has been getting really creaky rough lately. Wax used to help but not so much any more. So I got a tube of non-conductive plastic lube from Radio Shack and applied it to the shaft and the the bottom of the "cone." I succeded in making the action 10x as sticky. Any advice? Other than X-52? Unless you know where I can get one at a large discount... Edited July 18, 2008 by hitman_214th Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
51GRIZZLY Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 (edited) Thats how i did it on my X45 back then, it worked like a charm.:thumbup: Some people recommended Graphite powder or teflon grease. Edited July 18, 2008 by <51>GRIZZLY 1
hitman Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Graphite powder is good lubrication, but it is conductive too, so thats something you want to be careful with. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
159th_Viper Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Read somewhere that Fabric Softener is used. Subsequent to that I successfully used it on my Saitek Cyborg Evo as a lubricant. Just polish/smear it on with a cloth or the like - works a charm. 1 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
S77th-konkussion Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Yeah- dryer sheets. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Crow_Bar Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Silicon Spray, but dont get it on your electrical contacts.
Highwayman-Ed Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Don't use the spray, it gets gunky after a while, the one thing that I've found that works 100% is Silicon Grease, you can buy it from any dive (scuba) shop. Intel i9-9900KF @5.2GHz MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon 32GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR3200 RAM MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio 40" Panasonic TH-40DX600U @ 4K Pimax Vision 8K Plus / Oculus Rift CV1 / HTC Vive Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker Windows 10 64 Bit Home Edition [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Roosterfeet Posted July 18, 2008 Author Posted July 18, 2008 Guess I need to find a dive shop. 5800x3D, rtx4070, Quest3 (sometimes)
hitman Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Any of the tips above will work...im surprised no one mentioned Windex yet. :D Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
BTTW-DratsaB Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Same thing happens with my X52. Some nice suggestions here, thanks. But I would strongly recommend not putting anything petroleum based on plastic/rubber. Over a while it will corrode it. eg wd40/engine oil. This one of my biggest problems with Saitek sticks. They really should provide a proper dust cover (like what you have around the bottom of your gear stick in a car) and factory lubrication for those exposed spring and plastic cup joysticks. Even the X52Pro is the same, seems different coloured lights are more important to the design team than actually improving the products flaws... :music_whistling: Specs: GA-Z87X-UD3H, i7-4770k, 16GB, RTX2060, SB AE-5, 750watt Corsair PSU, X52, Track IR4, Win10x64. Sim Settings: Textures: ? | Scenes: ? |Water: ? | Visibility Range: ? | Heat Blur: ? | Shadows: ? | Res: 1680x1050 | Aspect: 16:10 | Monitors: 1 Screen | MSAA: ? | Tree Visibility: ? | Vsync: On | Mirrors: ? | Civ Traffic: High | Res Of Cockpit Disp: 512 | Clutter: ? | Fullscreen: On
RvEYoda Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Got any ideas about greasing the cougar throttle? I'm not quite sure what grease to use. S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Deadman Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Well you can try this http://cougar.frugalsworld.com/mods.php#smooth I just use a drop of glycerin now and then works fine https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
RvEYoda Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Thanks Deadman :) S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Deadman Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 No Problem just don't get any on the friction pad like i did the first time lol a little goes a long way https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
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