viper3two Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Hi folks As we are eagerly awaiting BS's arrival.... I have not flown in several years, been taking up driving for a while with racing sims. Now I am going to get back to good ol' flying. I have been around since the Falcon Gold days....a long time. I have an old trusty Microsoft Sidewinder 2 stick that does rather good still, still works and has no drift in it. I am in search of a setup that would have rudder pedals, a throttle and a stick. What is everybody using these days for a hotas system? Just need a little advise, probably going to purchase something in the next month or so... Thanks Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 This would also depend on your price range A lot of people have Saitek X-52 I think its the best bang for the buck, the original one is less than 100 dollars and it has stick throttle and a twist rudder as pedals. Personally I didn't see the need to upgrade to the X-52 pro version since its price didn't really justify the improvements such as more metal constructions, better screen, lights...etc. Next which probably most people would recommend are CH products. This is in case you don't like the "arcadish, star-wars" look of the X-52. It looks fairly more accurate and it last very long. However, its usually sold individually like stick 100, throttle 100, pedals 100. Those are not the exact prices but its an estimate. So that's a hefty price. Third would be the all realistic look and feel which is the cougar joystick. I always wanted to get one of those, however, it doesn't have a pedal so you would have to buy that separately. And I heard you need to modify a bit to be really good. Of course, it works fine out of the box, but some people has complained it doesn't last long. I can't speak from experience on this. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Thrustmaster Cougar does not support Windows XP 64Bit...it supporter on XP vista 32bit, and vista 64bit.. i own CH Products, and there awesome find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Next which probably most people would recommend are CH products. This is in case you don't like the "arcadish, star-wars" look of the X-52. It looks fairly more accurate and it last very long. However, its usually sold individually like stick 100, throttle 100, pedals 100. Those are not the exact prices but its an estimate. So that's a hefty price. No, 100 USD for each is actually accurate as long as you know where to buy. Google Provantage, they're a store in North Canton Ohio. They have some good deals on all CH products. ;) I'd say get an x52 first. You can't go wrong with that for a starter HOTAS. You'll get your feet wet and decide if you want to move up to the better stuff. You can save money on the rudder pedals in the mean time, and you can always use any rudder pedals you buy with the x52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Throttle from X-52, MSFFB stick (+ pedals if spare cash about). FFB works very nicely in DCS.BS - apparently very much as for RL 1 Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyoteros Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Weta43 please stop talking about how nice is in the BS... please :D "Eagle Dynamics" - simulating human madness since 1991 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ۞ ۞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakobi Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Any links to CH's website? Google don't help much... (try searching after the letter "A"... WTF???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Cougar FTW :) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poncho Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Here: http://www.chproducts.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper3two Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Thanks all for the replies, gonna give them a look! :thumbup: Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleCat Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) Thrustmaster Cougar does not support Windows XP 64Bit...it supporter on XP vista 32bit, and vista 64bit.. i own CH Products, and there awesome I think there are Beta Cougar drivers for Windows_XP_64 in fact. I own Cougars and they ROCK! as well. Check them out before purchasing. Out Edited August 27, 2008 by PoleCat http://www.104thphoenix.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Thanks all for the replies, gonna give them a look! :thumbup: Tony I'm not sure where you're located, but if you are in the US, you can get CH products a lot cheaper elsewhere than directly from CH. Try these: http://www.newegg.com http://www.provantage.com Provantage has the best deals I've ever see on CH stuff, but I really doubt they ship international. However, Newegg might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Yep. www.provantage.com . [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Hey mate, I started out with the X52, amazing Hotas, I'm currently using a Cougar though that said, while it is amazing for F16 sims, I think I may prefere the X52 for DCS, Though only time will tell, certainly the X52 is more user friendly, I find the Cougar a major hassle to program. Oh yes as to Rudders, I currently have the Saitek Pedals, Best pedals on the market I think and a very very good price. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Thrustmaster Cougar does not support Windows XP 64Bit...it supporter on XP vista 32bit, and vista 64bit.. i own CH Products, and there awesome False. I own a Cougar and run Vista x64, and I use the official drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
multiviper Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 the cougar is a nice solid HOTAS, had mine for 3 years and not a single problem.. the weight of it is excellent it stays put... and you should check ebay for prices on peddles Multiviper http://www.multiviper.com [sIGPIC]http://www.multiviperforums.com/pictures/multi3uo8.jpg[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramstein Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 aall Saitek :thumbup: ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI (trying to hang on for a bit longer) 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
531-Ghost Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Well, I've used my CH Products for going on 6+ years now. Not a bit of trouble. For what it's worth. At the end of the road, be happy and fly what you like. 1 :joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I think there are Beta Cougar drivers for Windows64 in fact. I own Cougars and they ROCK! as well. Check them out before purchasing. Out Windows 64 what? 64Bit XP, or 64Bit Vista? the thrustmaster site says that 64Bit XP is NOT SUPPORTED....64bit vista, yes SO PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG..ONCE AGAIN, I AM TALKING ABOUT 64bit XP (NOT VISTA) find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't think Yo-Yo will mind being quoted: Now with FFB it looks like real stick behavior I remember after trying several big simulators with real cockpits and controls. Resembles real mechanics very close. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 If your going for X52 the first time I advise the Pro version. Alot of people complains the original X52 sticks looseness. The Pro is slighly heavier. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revvin Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I have used plenty of other brands over the years but its the CH HOTAS I have now and have used for the last 5 years that has never let me down and feels just as it did the day I unpacked them and plugged them in for the first time. In that time the software has continually evolved in terms of features and the operating systems it supports including 32Bit & 64Bit versions of Windows XP and Vista. When the times comes to upgrade I know my CH Products HOTAS will be supported. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axion Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Tried Cougar, did not like. Bought CH and did like. Both very different indeed. Have not tried X52. If possible get your hands dirty and try the different setups. Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Depending on where you live, you could go down to a local store and feel out the joysticks. For example, I live in California, and I would go to Fry's electronics. they have the X-52, Ch products all lined up. The only one missing is the Cougar. The only store that I know of that sells it is CompUSA and that's going out of business. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramstein Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) not sure where who lives, but you can get a good price on place slike www.gogamer.com ., I got mine there a while back... Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System $149.90 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals The pedals have been dropping in price where can snag new ones for $99.90 Edited August 20, 2008 by Ramstein ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI (trying to hang on for a bit longer) 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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