Is there a way to start a custom mission with the wings folded while on land, like at Nellis? I want to cold start on land that includes spreading the wings.

[gtsab]

The F-18 starts wings folded when on the carrier, but always wings unfolded on land.  Is there a way to have a mission start on land, but you still have to spread the wings?

 

thanks

[Steel Jaw]

Not that I know of, likely because there's no reason to fold the wings on the ramp on land AFAIK.

[Jackjack171]

Yeah, there really is no need to fold wings on land bro! That may be the reason!  USMC Hornets IRL where I was stationed, were worried that they could not get the wing to unfold because the jets were so old. Makes sense to me.

Edited June 10, 2021 by Jackjack171

[gtsab]

Thanks for the replies folks.  The reason I would like to unfold the wings on land is because I use my simpit as a STEM training device at the local community college and high school, and my guest pilots are super novices that like to push all the buttons and see all the stuff move - but starting them on the ship and thinking they can taxi to the hookup is too much for these beginners.  So if I could have the wings folded at a cold start, it would be another pretty cool thing for the young students to be able to do during the start up procedure.

 

thanks

[Leadbottom]

You might want to try having them "fold" the  wings during start-up and then "unfold" during taxi to the runway.  That would give them something extra to do.

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, gtsab said:

...So if I could have the wings folded at a cold start, it would be another pretty cool thing for the young students to be able to do during the start up procedure.

 

On a cold start, no, I know of no way to have the wings folded from the start, as there is no hydraulic power to fold them.

 

But, if you do a hot start, then a trigger can fold the wings automatically:

 

- First retract the Flaps, as you can't fold the wings with the flaps extended: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3017, Value 1

- Next, pull the Wing Fold handle: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3010, Value 1

- Now rotate the handle CCW 1 position: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3021, Value 0

- Finally, rotate the handle again: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3021, Value 0

 

Leave 1 second between each trigger, to give the mechanisms time to move. Here is a sample.

F-18 - test wing fold (by Rudel_chw).miz

[Sacarino111]

Hi. I am completelly ignorant on that matter, but maybe there is a .Lua file where the "starting aircraft" reads its state, let's say, "INS OFF", "Left DDI OFF", etc, and there is "win_folded= false" or something similar. Maybe changing that could result in a folded wing srtart up. Just a thinking...

Saludos.

Saca111

[gtsab]

yes somehow the aircraft knows to start wings folded on the carrier, and start wings spread on the ground - wonder what's controlling that.

 

thanks for everyone's inputs!

[pete_auau]

18 hours ago, Mower said:

Not that I know of, likely because there's no reason to fold the wings on the ramp on land AFAIK.

Actually  the  base  where  i worked  on land, they  had  to have  their  wings  folded   due  to  the  fact  they  couldnt  fit in  the ola  hangers  where  we  parked  2  per  ola On  taxi  out  they  folded  the  wings

Edited June 11, 2021 by pete_auau

[mongo52]

On 6/10/2021 at 2:05 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 

On a cold start, no, I know of no way to have the wings folded from the start, as there is no hydraulic power to fold them.

 

But, if you do a hot start, then a trigger can fold the wings automatically:

 

- First retract the Flaps, as you can't fold the wings with the flaps extended: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3017, Value 1

- Next, pull the Wing Fold handle: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3010, Value 1

- Now rotate the handle CCW 1 position: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3021, Value 0

- Finally, rotate the handle again: X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION, Device 2, Command 3021, Value 0

 

Leave 1 second between each trigger, to give the mechanisms time to move. Here is a sample.

F-18 - test wing fold (by Rudel_chw).miz 20.99 kB · 2 downloads

Wings fold drive is actually electrically driven not hydraulic. You can fold wings by reset power then putting 4 to B. 

 

If you really like your students to press buttons and switches find a copy of the Pro A launch preduces. It will basically have them go through most everything. 

[Rudel_chw]

12 minutes ago, mongo52 said:

Wings fold drive is actually electrically driven not hydraulic. You can fold wings by reset power then putting 4 to B. 

 

Thanks, didn't remember that 

[mongo52]

I do agree though there should be an option for start on the beach with wings folded I.E. just came out hangar for maintance first flight kinda scenario. 

[MAXsenna]

Seriously, there is no way to start cold and dark with wings folded, or did I misunderstand.

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[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

Seriously, there is no way to start cold and dark with wings folded, or did I misunderstand.

only way is to start on a carrier, on an airbase nope.

Edited June 12, 2021 by Rudel_chw

[Raisuli]

The answer hasn't changed, but I thought this was interesting given the OP:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Nellis+AFB,+NV/@36.2267336,-115.0516239,104m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c8dd979f1a4539:0x890a4a296fadb5ef!8m2!3d36.2406295!4d-115.0542759

 

Google maps, Nellis, switch to satellite.  There are a bunch of hornets, and several have their wings folded.  Let nobody say they never fold them at Nellis! 

[mongo52]

Looks like Growlers. Its SOP for them to fold wings. Those wingtips pods are expensive. 

[Raisuli]

On 6/15/2021 at 11:06 PM, mongo52 said:

Looks like Growlers. Its SOP for them to fold wings. Those wingtips pods are expensive. 

Learned something new!  Good day.

[Brass2-1]

On 6/16/2021 at 1:06 AM, mongo52 said:

Looks like Growlers. Its SOP for them to fold wings. Those wingtips pods are expensive. 

Agreed, Growlers or at least two-seat Rhinos. 
 

Growlers (and previously Prowlers) are regular visitors to Nellis as the USAF doesn’t have indigenous electronic warfare jets since the retiring of the SparkVark.