WINDOWS 11 Compatibility

[vishkar]

Dear Sir, I have been using Win 10 64 bit. Now with Win 11, is DCS compatible with WIN 11? Please let us know. Thanks, regards

vhk1210@gmail.com

[OPEC]

Don't panic, Its not even out yet and not due to the end of the year.  But I bet you it will be compatible to DCS, if not immediately then for sure after some time. There is no need to jump on a new windows on release day after all, since i bet its gonna be buggy as hell anyways.

[Dunx]

The codebase for Windows 11 is based on Windows 10 (aka copied and pasted).

 

Drivers and apps should "just work this time" ^(tm)

 

https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/microsoft_windows_11/

 

[TOViper]

"should" is used by computer technicians usually after they applied repairs to computers not working

The truth often shows something else then ...

 

 

[Lange_666]

On 6/25/2021 at 3:46 PM, vishkar said:

Dear Sir, I have been using Win 10 64 bit. Now with Win 11, is DCS compatible with WIN 11? Please let us know. Thanks, regards

vhk1210@gmail.com

 

Regarding the posted requirements for Windows 11 you better ask yourself if your computer is compatible for Windows 11?

[epoch]

Regarding the requirements, some may have noticed that a TPM (Trusted Platform Module) is required for Windows 11.

 

Consumer/gaming motherboards often don't have a TPM.  My Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro doesn't have one (they can be bought separately if required).  In fact, the Windows 11 requirement is causing high demand for TPMs.

 

That said, if you have an Intel or AMD CPU from the past few years then you already should have a compatible TPM because it's bundled into the CPU.

 

So anyone panicking that they don't have one, check your BIOS/UEFI as the technology may be present, but disabled.  On Intel it's called PTT (Platform Trust Technology) and on AMD it's fTPM (firmware TPM).  They may be disabled in your BIOS (mine was) but enabling it will reveal a TPM 2.0 chip which you'll be able to see in Windows Device Manager.

 

Then you can download Microsoft's health check app to see if your system is compatible.

[BitMaster]

Don't panic yet !

 

It's beta time and beta conditions too ( TPM2.0 only for now in beta, Release will work with 1.2 as well ) and most boards do have at least TPM 1.2 in Firmware, so no need to add a TPM module iirc.

 

If they really would exclude R5-1600x, 7700k etc.. from Win11...well, then MS really screwed it up this time. Acceptance would be a lot lower if that is the case upon release.

No, I cannot believe they will do it that rough.

[3WA]

I tried Windows 11.  It's still pretty broken.  I wouldn't worry about it for a while.

[Beirut]

On 6/25/2021 at 10:03 AM, Dunx said:

The codebase for Windows 11 is based on Windows 10

 

 

But now with 62% more privacy intrusions. 

 

Progress! 

[Dunx]

1 hour ago, Beirut said:

 

But now with 62% more privacy intrusions. 

 

Progress! 

 

interesting

[JagHond]

1 ora fa, Beirut ha scritto:

 

But now with 62% more privacy intrusions. 

 

Progress! 

 

Of course! As we hadn't gave enough part of it away almost everywhere until now, with or better without our permission.

 

With best regards.

Edited June 27, 2021 by JagHond

[Hammer1-1]

Its a free 64% more increase in intrusions, so thats a bonus.

[nessuno0505]

My i7 6700k has no TPM 2.0 or 1.2 either, and my maximus viii hero alpha has no slot for a TPM module, so for me no windows 11.

My PC is planned for an upgrade, but I have to find a new VGA first. No VGA at decent prices today, so no upgrade, and again no windows 11.

Nevertheless, my quite old PC and my rtx 2070 are still capable enough of running DCS (and MSFS) in VR with a Rift s on windows 10, thus I can wait.

I have to. I do not want to buy a new GPU for double its price or more. If I do I become part of the problem, and I suggest anyone else is searching for a new GPU not to upgrade until all this madness is over.

Edited June 27, 2021 by nessuno0505

[Fri13]

29 minutes ago, nessuno0505 said:

My i7 6700k has no TPM 2.0 or 1.2 either, and my maximus viii hero alpha has no slot for a TPM module, so for me no windows 11.

 

In the Windows Weekly (Twitch podcast) they mentioned that TPM 2.0 is required for Windows 11.

That latest standard is from 2015, so very many PC will be out of Windows 11 update program, if it is so required, but any newer PC should be fine as long Windows 8 was running on it. 

 

Basically if your PC runs Windows 10, then it will run Windows 11, as since 2016 Microsoft has required TPM 2.0 from all new PC's. 

[Hammer1-1]

Found out how to enable it in BIOS - if you have Intel, look for the PTT settings. TPM 2.0 is one of the options listed. Dont ask me how to check if its AMD. Most modern chips already have it firmware'd in. I did this earlier this morning because I couldnt find it in my BIOS til someone mentioned this fix. Most online places that tell you to look for TPM settings would be under security, but most likely thing you'll see there is the ability to set a password.

Edited June 27, 2021 by Hammer1-1

[=Mac=]

I'm still holding on tight to Windows 7. I'm typing this post with it. Unfortunately, DCS does not play well with Win 7. And now I gotta get Winblows 11?

 

I sure wish I could go back to the old Zilog Z80. I wonder what the frame rate would be with DCS (if it could) run on an old TRS-80.... one frame per week?

[Hammer1-1]

Why you sticking to Windows 7? Other than it being better than Windows 8, not much else to benefit from having it.

[tusler]

The folks using DCS on steam have the right idea, since steam will work just fine on linux loaded on fast hardware. They don't care what Windows is doing.

 

[=Mac=]

I haven't updated my W7 since February 22, 2011. That's what? 10 years?

Is ED still going to support steem?

See? This is what I mean about loss of control and ownership over my computer. I just made two posts and the forum merged them together without my permission.

 

Damm. Three posts merged. Now four!

 

This is why I keep my W7 around. My gaming rig is, by necessity, W10. But I dislike it very much.

Edited June 27, 2021 by =Mac=

[nessuno0505]

1 ora fa, Fri13 ha scritto:

Basically if your PC runs Windows 10, then it will run Windows 11, as since 2016 Microsoft has required TPM 2.0 from all new PC's. 

 

1 ora fa, Hammer1-1 ha scritto:

Found out how to enable it in BIOS - if you have Intel, look for the PTT settings. TPM 2.0 is one of the options listed. [...] Most modern chips already have it firmware'd in.

 

My PC is a rig I assembled myself. My i7 6700k runs windows 10 with no issues but if i type tpm.msc my PC says I don't have a TPM and I have to check BIOS to see if maybe it's disabled. I've carefully checked but I haven't found any TPM or PTT setting; it appears that 6th gen i7 6700k does not have that functionality. If someone still has my CPU (I bought my PC in september 2016) and can see if I'm missing something I'll be grateful, but windows 11 support is certified for intel from 8th gen and above, so I fear I'm out until I do a new rig (impossible with current GPU prices).

Edited June 27, 2021 by nessuno0505

[unlikely_spider]

1 hour ago, tusler said:

The folks using DCS on steam have the right idea, since steam will work just fine on linux loaded on fast hardware. They don't care what Windows is doing.

 

Just because Steam works on Linux does not mean that all Steam games do.

Edited June 27, 2021 by unlikely_spider

[Hammer1-1]

Yep, steam has nothing to do with the installer packages; they're just a game selling platform with built in UI layer so you can chat to your buddies on GTA5. Hell, most programs will work on Windows BootCamp on Apple; doesnt mean that itll work well.

[Hammer1-1]

1 hour ago, nessuno0505 said:

 

 

My PC is a rig I assembled myself. My i7 6700k runs windows 10 with no issues but if i type tpm.msc my PC says I don't have a TPM and I have to check BIOS to see if maybe it's disabled. I've carefully checked but I haven't found any TPM or PTT setting; it appears that 6th gen i7 6700k does not have that functionality. If someone still has my CPU (I bought my PC in september 2016) and can see if I'm missing something I'll be grateful, but windows 11 support is certified for intel from 8th gen and above, so I fear I'm out until I do a new rig (impossible with current GPU prices).

 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors?ranMID=24542&ranEAID=kXQk6*ivFEQ&ranSiteID=kXQk6.ivFEQ-beGarl5ZCUXYqL8yOA1JqA&epi=kXQk6.ivFEQ-beGarl5ZCUXYqL8yOA1JqA&irgwc=1&OCID=AID2000142_aff_7593_1243925&tduid=(ir__rzsjubm69wkfqknekk0sohznc32xuqcqatzofoke00)(7593)(1243925)(kXQk6.ivFEQ-beGarl5ZCUXYqL8yOA1JqA)()&irclickid=_rzsjubm69wkfqknekk0sohznc32xuqcqatzofoke00

 

Unfortunately, the 6700k is on the short list of no. That sucks too; the 6700k is a great processor. Ive had one once upon a time, was one of my favorites. From the looks of it, its Coffee Lake and up.

 

Edited June 27, 2021 by Hammer1-1

[unlikely_spider]

Yeah, two of my three PCs at home won't be up to the Win 11 requirements. Luckily my simming PC should be ok though, but my other two are no slouches really so it's kind of a surprise. They just have slightly older Intel CPUs. This is kind of a departure from the requirements philosophy of the last few  Windows releases.

[Fri13]

The TPM 2.0 requirement is interesting.

Considering it should mainly be in Windows only for a Bitlocker drive encryption purpose as required feature, and if you don't use it then Windows 11 should work right. 

 

But as lot of new applications has been added to Windows like Teams (doesn't seem to come pre-installed although) that is communication element for it, it might be reason why TPM 2.0 is required so they can do encryption for it connection.

 

As each application is responsible to have TPM support by itself, it would be sensible to just drop the application/feature and leave rest working.

 

Good thing is that TPM earlier was possible be emulated, so you could just install a TPM authenticator for services/applications to connect to. Not the secure one but made possible get TPM everywhere.

 

Something like this: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ibmswtpm2/

 

There was a good one as TPM 1.2 but I don't know for 2.0.

 

So that might be one solution for someone, if one can get Winsows 11 installed (Win 10 -> Win 11 upgrade) as first and then get that kind running after that.

 

But good thing is that Windows 10 will be supported long for DCS so...