reported Al Dhafra AFB ILS freq not working

[GumidekCZ]

Al Dhafra AFB ILS frequencys not working, except the 109,1 MHz for RWY 31R.

• 108,7 for RWY 13R(back course) and 31L - not working
• 111,1 for RWY 13LL - not working

DHAFRA_ILS_LOC_BUG.trk

 

Also in DCS deafault kneeboard, there are no freq for RWY:

Edited July 31, 2021 by GumidekCZ

[TJpek]

Still an issue ^

[GumidekCZ]

Dhafra is broken I guess since release. No-one from ED had even few minutes to just mark it as REPORTED. I found Dhafra bug report which was posted 10th March 2020 - sadly also unnoticed by ED 

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/227445-ils-issues-al-dhafra-ab/&ved=2ahUKEwjo4qfyiqfzAhVD-6QKHbagCQ4QFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0IH1EHBbVHDiL6i0uZq9X-

Edited September 30, 2021 by GumidekCZ

[Flappie]

The issue was reported, actually. I'll test this in a few days and will update the bug report accordingly.

[GumidekCZ]

@Flappie

I extracted all Dhafra navigation beacon frequencys from BEACON.lua for you.

Beacons_DHAFRA.lua

[Flappie]

Many thanks.

[Gregkar]

Al Minhad is not working either

[Flappie]

33 minutes ago, Gregkar said:

Al Minhad is not working either

 

One thread per issue, please.

[Flappie]

@GumidekCZ I've checked all PG ILS in 3 different wind conditions. I used the M-2000C because it's way quicker/simpler.

 

 

We have two different issues:

1. Wind related ILS are "normal" in DCS. I won't report them, because what needs to be changed here is not PG but the DCS core logic of ILS beacons (and also directional beacons).
2. ILS beacons that never work. I'll report these.

[GumidekCZ]

@Flappie - amaizing work, your are a man of action. Hope that somebody will Fix all that after Apachee is completed ****

Edited October 4, 2021 by GumidekCZ

[Enduro14]

yup have to add thanks Flappie you are doing great work and hope this all shows in upcoming patch's

[ac5]

In addition to that... 

Requesting landing to Sharjah the ATC replies Novorossiysk.... See screenshots.

And the ILS beacons runways 12 Sharjah AND Dubai International are non-existent, in spite being marked on the F10 map...

and the ILS Runway 30  Dubai International does not show the glideslope (f-16) What a mess... 

 

 

[Flappie]

Please avoid reporting different issues in a same thread. The Novorossiysk bug you're refering to is an old one:

 

It happens when you play a mission over the Persian Gulf after a session over Caucasus.

[ac5]

I mentioned not only The Novorossiysk bug...............

[draconus]

On 12/12/2021 at 2:48 PM, ac5 said:

And the ILS beacons runways 12 Sharjah AND Dubai International are non-existent, in spite being marked on the F10 map...

Call ATC to know the active runway first. In DCS - only the active approach direction will have ILS activated.

[ac5]

20 hours ago, draconus said:

Call ATC to know the active runway first. In DCS - only the active approach direction will have ILS activated.

Of course I have called ATC... I am well aware that  only the active approach direction will have ILS activated.

But nevertheless, why are the ILS beacons runways 12 Sharjah AND Dubai International are non-existent, in spite being marked on the F10 map?

and why the ILS Runway 30  Dubai International does not show the glideslope (f-16)?

[Flappie]

Do you have a track of your non functional Sharjah ILS please?

I did a torough check a few months ago, and it was working well, then.

Dubai 30L is bugged and the bug has been reported already.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Flappie

[Recoil16]

4 hours ago, Flappie said:

Do you have a track of your non functional Sharjah ILS please?

I did a torough check a few months ago, and it was working well, then.

Just to expand on this, I also just tested the Sharjah ILS rwy 12 multiple times, and the magic number for me is 6, as in 6 kts. With a headwind of 6 kts or more, I am able to use the ILS runway 12 as intended, with 5kts or less, no dice. This is definitely a problem, but not one of the beacons being "non-existant", but merely their activation.

In the case of Sharjah it once again comes down to the incredibly frustrating relation between wind (and not only direction but also speed) and the activation of the ILS that has been the cause of all sorts of issues left right and center.

[Flappie]

Yes, that's the wind speed I had used for my test, as seen in the table above.

[ac5]

So in other words, one has to apply a a headwind of 6 kts or more.....

That begs the question: Why is this not necessary in Nevada and Caucasus?

[draconus]

1 hour ago, ac5 said:

So in other words, one has to apply a a headwind of 6 kts or more.....

That begs the question: Why is this not necessary in Nevada and Caucasus?

One has to listen to ATC. Depending on wind strenght and direction the active runway changes. Few examples from other maps: Creech AFB, Andersen AFB, Tbilisi-Vaziani - all the same behavior. There are other runways of course. Some are special like Nellis (approach 21L or 21R). Some are one driection only. Some have ILS only for one direction.