Gunfreak Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 So the module says it can have 250 or 500lb bombs under each wing and in the bomb bay. My understanding is the 4 20mm ment you had less room in the bomb bay. But from just reading, I can't find the exact number of bombs. i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
bart Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) It can carry 2x 250lb or 2x 500lb shortened bombs in the bomb bay. The fins are cut short to enable them to fit into the half-ish length bomb bay. The rest of the space at the front section of the bomb bay is used for the 4 20mm cannon breeches. Additionally it can also carry 2x 250lb or 2x 500lb bombs under the wings, one bomb slung under each wing instead of the extra fuel tanks. So a total of up to 2000lbs of bombs can be carried, 4x 500lb or 1000lb in total made up of 4x 250lb bombs. I'm not sure about mixing and matching the loadout though, say 2x 500lb bombs in the bomb bay and 2x 250lb bombs one under each wing at the same time. Maybe others can chime in and confirm/deny this is possible. I would also assume when you drop them they all go at once and there is no system which enables the pilot to select just to drop the wing bombs on one target and the bomb bay bombs on another. Again, maybe someone else can chime in with this info. Edited August 16, 2021 by bart 1 System :- i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12 core, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming, 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz, 24GB Asus ROG Strix Geforce RTX 3090, 1x 500GB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, 1x 2TB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, Corsair 1000W RMx Series Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU, Windows 10. VIRPIL VPC WarBRD Base with HOTAS Warthog Stick and Warthog Throttle, VIRPIL ACE Interceptor Pedals, VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base with a Hawk-60 Grip, HP Reverb G2.
Gunfreak Posted August 16, 2021 Author Posted August 16, 2021 Thanks, How much ammo does it carry? i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Krupi Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 2000 rounds (500/gun) for the 4x303 machine guns and 600 rounds (150/cannon) for the 4x20mm Edited August 16, 2021 by Krupi 1 Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
Silver_Dragon Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) ED has added some months ago UK bombs, rockets and WW2 rails, surelly to Mosquito and other Uk aircrafts to DCS directories. Bombs: - 250Lb GP MkIV Bomb - 250Lb GP MkV Bomb - 250Lb MC MkI Bomb - 250Lb MC MkII Bomb - 250Lb SAB Bomb - 500Lb GP MkIV Bomb - 500Lb GP MkV Bomb - 500Lb GP ST Type Bomb - 500Lb MC MkII Bomb - 500Lb MC Short Tailed Type Bomb - 500Lb SAP Bomb Rockets: - 60Lb F NoI MkI HE Rocket - 60Lb SAP No2 MkI Rocket - Short 25Lb AP MkI Rocket Others: - Carrier N1 EM EF Rail Edited August 16, 2021 by Silver_Dragon For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Krupi Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) @Silver_Dragon Ohh, I wonder if that is the early steel rail or the late war mkIII aluminium light weight version. I assume the former, but I don't know the naming convention. Edited August 16, 2021 by Krupi Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
Bozon Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Krupi said: 2000 rounds (500/gun) for the 4x303 machine guns and 600 rounds (150/cannon) for the 4x20mm They could also carry 700 (175 rpg) of 20mm. When intruder operations started with the NF.II some were loaded with 220 rpg, though I don’t know if the FB.VI ever carried that much. “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
Robi-wan Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 4 hours ago, bart said: So a total of up to 4000lbs of bombs can be carried, 4x 500lb Such are the perils of math in public. 1
Basco1 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Yes you can have all the choices given in the replies above........or.......you could have a 4000Ib Cookie.......don't forget the Cookie. Chillblast Fusion Cirrus 2 FS Pc/Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake CPU/Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1070 G1 8GB/Seagate 2TB FireCuda SSHD/16GB DDR4 2133MHz Memory/Asus STRIX Z270F Gaming Motherboard/Corsair Hydro Series H80i GT Liquid Cooler/TM Warthog with MFG 10cm Extension/WINWING Orion Rudder Pedals (With Damper Edition)/TrackiR5/Windows 11 Home
zcrazyx Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Basco1 said: Yes you can have all the choices given in the replies above........or.......you could have a 4000Ib Cookie.......don't forget the Cookie. If only we had an actual bomber version, i'd love to give the axis airfield a cookie 1
bart Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Robi-wan said: Such are the perils of math in public. Corrected!! (in a slightly embarrassed way ) Edited August 16, 2021 by bart System :- i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12 core, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming, 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz, 24GB Asus ROG Strix Geforce RTX 3090, 1x 500GB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, 1x 2TB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, Corsair 1000W RMx Series Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU, Windows 10. VIRPIL VPC WarBRD Base with HOTAS Warthog Stick and Warthog Throttle, VIRPIL ACE Interceptor Pedals, VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base with a Hawk-60 Grip, HP Reverb G2.
Mogster Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 56 minutes ago, Basco1 said: Yes you can have all the choices given in the replies above........or.......you could have a 4000Ib Cookie.......don't forget the Cookie. The “dangerous dustbin”…
rkk01 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Basco1 said: Yes you can have all the choices given in the replies above........or.......you could have a 4000Ib Cookie.......don't forget the Cookie. I really, really, really want to take one of those for a trip out… ED would make a lot of folks happy if what’s in that pic appeared in the sim Oh, and some TI marker flares would be just the ticket
Bozon Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Would you like to see 4000 lbs explode in slo-mo? “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
Gunfreak Posted August 16, 2021 Author Posted August 16, 2021 Aren't the explosives in DCS already under powdered, even a modern 2000lb bomb doesn't make that big of a bang. i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Diesel_Thunder Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 What’s the difference between a General Purpose bomb and a Medium Capacity bomb? I see that each flavor exists for both 250 and 500 lb bombs. PC: MSI X670E, Ryzen 9 7900X, 64GB DDR5 RAM, RTX 3090 Ti, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight pedals, Opentrack Link to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/DieselThunderAviation Commander, 62nd Virtual Fighter Squadron Join the 62nd VFS today! Link to our discord server: https://discord.gg/Z25BSKk84s
Krupi Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) "RAF Bombs During the years following the Great War bombs were still thought of as little more than artillery shells dropped from airplanes. In 1937 a new series of bombs was adopted by the RAF which were aerodynamically shaped with tail fins, far more suited to being carried and dropped from aircraft. These came in a variety of ‘sizes’ from 40 lb bombs to 250 and 500 lb bombs. For the first two years of the war Bomber Command relied heavily on 250 lb and 500 lb GP high explosive bombs. Bombs were classified by their CWR (Charge-to-Weight-Ratio) the percentage of explosive compared to the gross weight of the weapon. GP (General Purpose) bombs had a CWR of 30-35% meaning that most of the weight of these bombs consisted of metal casing not explosive. When it was realized that the weight of the bomb casing is a necessary evil, something to be reduced as much as possible this led to the development of new weapons such as the 4,000 HC (‘Block Buster’) which greatly increased the offensive power of RAF’s bombers. MC (Medium Capacity) bombs had a CWR of 40-50% while HC (High Capacity) weapons had a CWR of 75-80%, the latter being essentially explosive packed metal drums. Extensive aerodynamic streamlining was dispensed with since these bombs were carried internally. As already mentioned the 4,000 lb ‘Block Buster’ or ‘Cookie’ was a very effective weapon in this class and after its introduction rapidly became a mainstay of Bomber Command. GP – General Purpose CWR 30-35% MC – Medium-Capacity CWR 40-50%" https://weaponsandwarfare.com/15985-2/ Sounds like it was just a change in relation to the thickness of the bombs casing. Edited August 17, 2021 by Krupi 2 1 Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
Bozon Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 The casing if the bomb is more than just an envelope to hold the explosives inside. If the bomb has a delayed fuse it must be able to withstand the impact with the ground and not get completely mangled. The weight of the casing also includes the shrapnel that the bomb will produce, so a high capacity bombs produces a bigger bang, a stronger blast wave, but less shrapnel mass than a lower capacity bomb of the same total mass. So, it is a matter of a balance between the damage of blast and shrapnel. 2 “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
Morat Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 True. The cookie was designed to damage buildings and make them more flammable so the incendiaries could cause large scale fires. I don't think we need to debate whether it worked.
Mogster Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Yes. I though the idea was to remove the roofs from building so the incendiaries would fall inside and burn the buildings from the inside out. They also could destroy utilities like water and electricity making fire fighting more difficult. Germany did the same with parachute mines, they contributed to the 1940 Coventry firestorm. Edited August 26, 2021 by Mogster
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