CV-59 Forrestal Feedback Thread

[AG-51_Razor]

2 hours ago, Top Jockey said:

 

So far it appears to be a bug...

Stop well short of the shuttle for cat 3. In an F/A-18, my tailpipe is still hanging out over the JBD when I lower the launch bar and hit the "U" key. Give that a try. Start way back and each time you hit the U key with no result, scootch forward a few feet and try again. Eventually you'll find the sweet spot .  It's a bug but one that HB will be able to fix I'm sure.

[Top Jockey]

6 minutes ago, AG-51_Razor said:

Stop well short of the shuttle for cat 3. In an F/A-18, my tailpipe is still hanging out over the JBD when I lower the launch bar and hit the "U" key. Give that a try. Start way back and each time you hit the U key with no result, scootch forward a few feet and try again. Eventually you'll find the sweet spot .  It's a bug but one that HB will be able to fix I'm sure.

 

Thank you, I can give it a try ! 

[Top Jockey]

22 hours ago, AG-51_Razor said:

Stop well short of the shuttle for cat 3. In an F/A-18, my tailpipe is still hanging out over the JBD when I lower the launch bar and hit the "U" key. Give that a try. Start way back and each time you hit the U key with no result, scootch forward a few feet and try again. Eventually you'll find the sweet spot .  It's a bug but one that HB will be able to fix I'm sure.

 

You nailed it !

Indeed, starting with the nose gear from much behind the shuttle (with the tailpipe still hanging out over the JBD), and then hitting U key eventually the aircraft will be bounced into the catapult's shuttle and connect.

[Northstar98]

Would it be better to have a seperate forum section for the Forrestal? Just to tidy things up?

[draconus]

2 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

Would it be better to have a seperate forum section for the Forrestal? Just to tidy things up?

Could be moved to general HB subforum.

[toni]

Which is the Forrestal Tacan guys ?

[Top Jockey]

11 minutes ago, toni said:

Which is the Forrestal Tacan guys ?

 

59X

[draconus]

22 minutes ago, toni said:

Which is the Forrestal Tacan guys ?

Mission designer decides if it is available and how it is set up. It is usually told in mission briefing.

Edited November 16, 2021 by draconus

[Top Jockey]

15 minutes ago, draconus said:

Mission designer decides if it is available and how it is set up. It is usually told in mission briefing.

 

 

@draconus,

 

By any chance was this confirmed, or it doesn't have nothing to do with TACAN not appearing sometimes ?

( At quickstart / instant action, Forrestal case 1 recovery ; Mission Editor - Triggered Actions TACAN shows 74X, when Route TACAN shows 59X ... )

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/284649-feedback-thread-f-14-patch-jester-lantirn-uss-forrestal-oct-20th-2021-hotfix-oct-28th/?do=findComment&comment=4823966

 

[Ozone1]

Don't suppose anyone has a link to the Forrestal paintkit by any chance? I need CV-67! 

[draconus]

16 minutes ago, Ozone1 said:

Don't suppose anyone has a link to the Forrestal paintkit by any chance? I need CV-67! 

It's not even close to the same class.

[Ozone1]

Well, it's the closest thing we have, isn't it...? And it's actually not far off at all. The Kittyhawk Class was literally an improved Forrestal class, with the only real differences being the elevator placement and being slightly longer. So you tell me what's a closer class of carrier to the Forrestal then? I'll wait... 

7 hours ago, draconus said:

It's not even close to the same class.

 

[LanceCriminal86]

The Kennedy was an offshoot of the Kitty Hawk and was herself even more different. Slapping a 67 on the Stennis wouldn't be that much different either, Stennis probably has an elevator layout closer to the Kennedy than Forrestal. Stennis and Forrestal were longer slightly than Kennedy but the in-game Stennis scale is off.

Stennis > Kennedy conversion is actually the better choice for deck layout:

 

[Uxi]

If we ever get CVN-65 Enterprise,  I want custom skins of CVN-66 as Yorktown and JFK as variants of the same class. 

 

JFK was supposed to get 4 A3W reactors IIRC but the costs overruns on Enterprise scared them off.

 

Stennis model is much for size and layout of JFK.  Just needs a new island. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Uxi

[Ozone1]

Yeah, but the Stennis and Enterprise aren't conventionally powered, so my argument still stands... 

[Jackjack171]

18 hours ago, Ozone1 said:

Well, it's the closest thing we have, isn't it...? And it's actually not far off at all. The Kittyhawk Class was literally an improved Forrestal class, with the only real differences being the elevator placement and being slightly longer. So you tell me what's a closer class of carrier to the Forrestal then? I'll wait... 

 

Not far off huh? Are we looking at the same diagram? They are 2 totally different deck layouts. You can't even stack the deck the same. The only 2 comparisons is that they are both old and conventional! 
As @LanceCriminal86said, it would be better to do that to the Stennis...albeit a bit weird as well!

I'm sorry, but a 67 slapped on top of a Forrestal class is just blasphemous...

[Nealius]

17 hours ago, LanceCriminal86 said:

The Kennedy was an offshoot of the Kitty Hawk and was herself even more different. Slapping a 67 on the Stennis wouldn't be that much different either, Stennis probably has an elevator layout closer to the Kennedy than Forrestal. Stennis and Forrestal were longer slightly than Kennedy but the in-game Stennis scale is off.

Stennis > Kennedy conversion is actually the better choice for deck layout:

 

Are there similar diagrams showing side-by-side comparisons of different carriers in the same class, say CV59~62? I get lost on the differences between the different ships if they're in the same class. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Nealius

[Northstar98]

1 hour ago, Nealius said:

Are there similar diagrams showing side-by-side comparisons of different carriers in the same class, say CV59~62? I get lost on the differences between the different ships if they're in the same class.

Tbf, it would probably be quite difficult to spot the differences in a diagram like this.

[LanceCriminal86]

@NealiusThe differences within classes were pretty minimal. The Ranger and Indy were a liiittttleee bit different from the Forrestal and Saratoga, but otherwise very hard to discern. I think the America had a slightly different funnel from the Kitty Hawk and Connie, and Kennedy herself different from the rest of them.

Deck layout and scale problems really do make the Stennis a decent candidate for at least a 67 renumber. Probably no way to add smoke to her though.

[Airhunter]

Personally I'd rather see someone do Enterprise eventually as it's the most unique looking and one of its class. 

[Jackjack171]

5 hours ago, Airhunter said:

Personally I'd rather see someone do Enterprise eventually as it's the most unique looking and one of its class. 

+1

[Panny]

Do multiplayer people still get collision spawn issues with the Forrestal?

[Gizzy]

Yes, with the Forrestal and indeed any carrier spawning one F14 next to another will cause will cause one of the aircraft to explode or more likely suffer a fire and damage to one wingtip.  For any sort of gameplay the F14 and Carrier are crippled.  It has been posted in many threads many times but unfortunately no response other than an 'investigating' tag on one post thats been there for a long time.

An acknowledgement of the problem even with a cursory 'its on the to do list' is better than a silence and avoid some of the frustration.

[Cobra847]

Once again, would like to thank everyone for the great feedback and input. The next patch will see little for the Forrestal as we've been leaning heavily towards the Viggen, but we're aiming to ship a larger chunk of changes and fixes in January.

[Panny]

On 12/14/2021 at 6:13 AM, Gizzy said:

Yes, with the Forrestal and indeed any carrier spawning one F14 next to another will cause will cause one of the aircraft to explode or more likely suffer a fire and damage to one wingtip.  For any sort of gameplay the F14 and Carrier are crippled.  It has been posted in many threads many times but unfortunately no response other than an 'investigating' tag on one post thats been there for a long time.

An acknowledgement of the problem even with a cursory 'its on the to do list' is better than a silence and avoid some of the frustration.

Tell me about it. Drives me insane and really kills half the experience