Swedish Military Assets for DCS by Currenthill

[tanax]

1 ora fa, currenthill ha scritto:

The 103A is TVM guided (unlike the 103B which is equipped with a radar seeker). The 103A missiles will self destruct if the PM103 STR will lose contact with the target. How is your LvS 103 setup? What where the targets? Do you have any screenshots or mission files?

I just tried it out and it worked as intended.

Edit @tanax: I might add, a common scenario where you will encounter this behavior is when a target aircraft turn on ECM. In these cases the PM103 STR have to re-aquire the target and launch a new missile at a much closer range.

 

 

My test mission where all missiles 103A explode a few seconds after launch.  103B is OK.Thanks for your interest

Test Swedwen RBS-103A LR SAM.miz

[currenthill]

49 minutes ago, tanax said:

My test mission where all missiles 103A explode a few seconds after launch.  103B is OK.Thanks for your interest

Test Swedwen RBS-103A LR SAM.miz 12.51 kB · 2 downloads

No problem! The reason for the 103A to explode after launch is because the PM103 STR lose contact, and that is because the Su-25T targets all have ECM pods which they turn on when under threat.  I tried your mission and set ECM use to never - and the missiles won't explode. I also removed the ECM pods, same result - the missiles won't explode. This is because the 103A has TVM guidance, where the 103B has its own radar seeker and isn't dependent on the PM103 STR.

On a sidenote, even if you keep the lock, it's still a challenge to hit a target at max distance (you can set a lower intercept range). Especially since the targets will start diving behind hills in this particular mission. And I would also set the asset skill level to excellence.

Edited October 17, 2022 by currenthill

[fargo007]

Hope this helps with testing but I tried out the RBS 58 guy, and they are neither showing up on the F10 map nor firing.  Sometimes going "airborne."

 

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by fargo007

[tanax]

42 minuti fa, currenthill ha scritto:

No problem! The reason for the 103A to explode after launch is because the PM103 STR lose contact, and that is because the Su-25T targets all have ECM pods which they turn on when under threat.  I tried your mission and set ECM use to never - and the missiles won't explode. I also removed the ECM pods, same result - the missiles won't explode. This is because the 103A has TVM guidance, where the 103B has its own radar seeker and isn't dependent on the PM103 STR.

On a sidenote, even if you keep the lock, it's still a challenge to hit a target at max distance (you can set a lower intercept range). Especially since the targets will start diving behind hills in this particular mission. And I would also set the asset skill level to excellence.

 

Thanks, I hadn't considered ECM. Now it works perfectly

[currenthill]

2 hours ago, fargo007 said:

Hope this helps with testing but I tried out the RBS 58 guy, and they are neither showing up on the F10 map nor firing.  Sometimes going "airborne."

 

 

 

Haha, wtf! How did you manage that? I've used the RBS 58 probably a thousand times in test and missions. There has to be some sort of conflict or issue with your installation. 

[fargo007]

Can someone else check please?  

 

I've reinstalled it and same behavior.

[Arrow11]

I wonder how all exciting mods come out when I'm busy irl... Exciting screenshots.. waiting to try it out soon when im back to dcs!!

[currenthill]

9 minutes ago, fargo007 said:

Can someone else check please?  

 

I've reinstalled it and same behavior.

If you send me your C:\Users\xxxxx\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Logs\dcs.log, I can take a look. 

[reece146]

Map datum issue?

Does it do the same for you on Caucasus?

[fargo007]

Yep, they don't fire and are not indicated on the F10 map on Caucasus.  They are not floating though.  

 

Bizarre.... @currenthill  dcs.log sent in pm, thank you!  

 

 

[JonathanRL]

This brings me joy.
 

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by JonathanRL

[GUFA]

2 hours ago, currenthill said:

If you send me your C:\Users\xxxxx\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Logs\dcs.log, I can take a look. 

 

7 minutes ago, JonathanRL said:

This brings me joy.

PLUUUUEEEESSSSEEEE ED Have a team find this guy and write him a BIG FAT CHECK

Fantastic work Currenthill Absolutly brilliant models

Edited October 17, 2022 by GUFA
grammar fix

[JonathanRL]

I pity my Squadron when I bring this into the next Campaign....
 

 

[currenthill]

19 minutes ago, JonathanRL said:

I pity my Squadron when I bring this into the next Campaign....
 

 

Haha! Love it!

[Abburo]

@currenthillfirst of all thank you for your hard work and the excellent result !!!

Secondly, I don't know if you realized when you created this mod how well could be suited for heli logistics actions. For example a Gazelle could transport and infiltrate a sniper team or an ATGM in some strategic spots... perfect for ambush or stealth actions ...

Did not try it yet, however the only think I got in here that would need some work according with what I was mentioned above would be the posibility of movement for sniper team, or at least posibility to rotate ... this would be required becasue spawning from heli cannot really control where they will face to.

Once again , big thumbs up!

Edited October 18, 2022 by Abburo

[currenthill]

39 minutes ago, Abburo said:

@currenthillfirst of all thank you for your hard work and the excellent result !!!

Secondly, I don't know if you realized when you created this mod how well could be suited for heli logistics actions. For example a Gazelle could transport and infiltrate a sniper team or an ATGM in some strategic spots... perfect for ambush or stealth actions ...

Did not try it yet, however the only think I got in here that would need some work according with what I was mentioned above would be the posibility of movement for sniper team, or at least posibility to rotate ... this would be required becasue spawning from heli cannot really control where they will face to.

Once again , big thumbs up!

 

That's an interesting proposition! I'll add it to the backlog.

[Septic]

RB 103 SAM seems to be engaging targets which are outside its STR's Detection zone, but inside RB103's firing zone.
Check the mission I attached.

SAM TEST .miz

[Abburo]

One more query... how can we find out the rearm timing, and how many rounds is having each unit, including infantry especially ATGM, manpads and sniper team.

Edited October 18, 2022 by Abburo

[currenthill]

22 minutes ago, Septic said:

RB 103 SAM seems to be engaging targets which are outside its STR's Detection zone, but inside RB103's firing zone.
Check the mission I attached.

SAM TEST .miz 6.05 kB · 1 download

Nice find! You are correct. I configured the STR for 360 degrees detection azimuth, which would be correct for the new GaN version but isn't correct for the AN/MPQ-65. After detection the azimuth is limited to 120 degrees, but I will restrict the asset to employ a fixed azimuth in the next update. 

Thanks!

3 minutes ago, Abburo said:

One more query... how can we find out the rearm timing, and how many rounds is having each unit, including infantry especially ATGM, manpads and sniper team.

 

Great point! I will compile and publish an overview.

[Gunfreak]

1 hour ago, Abburo said:

@currenthillfirst of all thank you for your hard work and the excellent result !!!

Secondly, I don't know if you realized when you created this mod how well could be suited for heli logistics actions. For example a Gazelle could transport and infiltrate a sniper team or an ATGM in some strategic spots... perfect for ambush or stealth actions ...

Did not try it yet, however the only think I got in here that would need some work according with what I was mentioned above would be the posibility of movement for sniper team, or at least posibility to rotate ... this would be required becasue spawning from heli cannot really control where they will face to.

Once again , big thumbs up!

 

I inserted a sniper team on a hill from a blackhawk, they went on to murder 6 Russians from over 1500 meters.

[Abburo]

@currenthillHow to deploy the RBS70 from BV410? Should i find an F10 menu command? I did not find it yet. Is it something will be available later? Or am I completely off-road ? :))

1 hour ago, Gunfreak said:

I inserted a sniper team on a hill from a blackhawk, they went on to murder 6 Russians from over 1500 meters.

How did you managed to get them properly aligned with the target?

Edited October 18, 2022 by Abburo

[Gunfreak]

12 minutes ago, Abburo said:

@currenthillHow to deploy the RBS70 from BV410? Should i find an F10 menu command? I did not find it yet. Is it something will be available later? Or am I completely off-road ? :))

How did you managed to get them properly aligned with the target?

 

Don't know. I just placed them facing more or less towards the target.(on a late activation trigger) I actually ment for them to engage some Russians in a town about 750 meters way. I was quite surprised when they started to gun down some moving Russians 1500 meters away.

[currenthill]

19 minutes ago, Abburo said:

@currenthillHow to deploy the RBS70 from BV410? Should i find an F10 menu command? I did not find it yet. Is it something will be available later? Or am I completely off-road ? :))

Nothing fancy is required. It will deploy (in stages to simulate the mount/deployment of the weapon) if alarm state is red. But the RBS 70 is dependent on the UndE 23 STR.

Sometimes it's easier to show than explain in words. Check out this mission.

RBS70_BV410 deploy.miz

Edited October 18, 2022 by currenthill

[Abburo]

These units mobility seems like a dream  ... it simply can add a new layer of possible missions... swedish army excels on mobility and stealth capabilities !!!  

[currenthill]

38 minutes ago, Abburo said:

How did you managed to get them properly aligned with the target?

The Ag 90 Sniper team can engage targets at ±45 degrees left/right from the facing direction.

13 minutes ago, Abburo said:

These units mobility seems like a dream  ... it simply can add a new layer of possible missions... swedish army excels on mobility and stealth capabilities !!!  

Thanks! That was a main goal with this project. To make as many assets as possible mobile. I wanted to be able to move and deploy a complete LvS 103 site with RBS 98 SHORAD protection etc. 

Edited October 18, 2022 by currenthill