Vietnam Wishlist Thread

[Evoman]

I just saw the newest DCS Vietnam theme video that Phenom posted a day ago. It was a beautiful thing to see all of the aircraft that were used in that conflict in action. With the F-4 Phantom and the F-100 and A-6 Intruder on the way a Vietnam map would have the potential of countless mission possibilities  more than the average map.

 

 

[Mike Force Team]

I have a suggestion for the Vietnam Map.  Can the Vietnam map include the Vietnam War's American POW camps?  This would add realism to the Vietnam map when content creators and pilots are flying missions in it.

Mike Force Team

Vietnam War POW Camp Maps on Sept. 20 2023.docx

[MAXsenna]

Think that train might have left.

 

What's up with the docx' Mike?

You know you can clip and paste pictures directly here?

Just remember to click this to get rid of the annoying "NULL" thing that's added in every post.

And then just click on the picture in the file list under the editing screen to place it anywhere in the text you want!

Cheers!

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[Mike Force Team]

Here is information for the developers working on the Vietnam Map.  This is a 1957 Map Showing the Demilitarized Zone during Vietnam War.

Mike Force Team

[Mike Force Team]

This is for the developers working on the Vietnam Map.  This is a 1966 map showing the 1966 DMZ Map during the Vietnam War.  It is basically an updated version of the 1957 DMZ Map Vietnam War.

Mike Force Team

[SharpeXB]

Good thing you’re providing this information. I’m sure map developers have never seen a map before… nor do they have Google to find one. 

https://www.gif-map.com/maps-of-asia/maps-of-vietnam/map-of-vietnam-demarcation-line-and-demilitarized-zone-1966

Edited October 6, 2023 by SharpeXB

[SharpeXB]

Again a really fantastic job of using Google to find stuff. I’m sure map developers would otherwise have no idea this existed since you’re the only one here with access to the internet. Keep up the good work… 

[Mike Force Team]

@SharpeXB Always good to hear from and read your comments. 

We know ED is working on the Vietnam map and Korean map. Yet, we don't know what the planned maps will have.  I post the maps for the developers to look at. At the same, @SharpeXB adds additional comments. When sharing online maps, the developers might add some features and functionalities to the Korean and Vietnam maps in their prototypes.

Mike Force Team 

Edited October 6, 2023 by Mike Force Team

[Mike Force Team]

@SharpeXB, good to hear from you. I am glad you take the time to read my forum posts. Thank you. 

The 1957 and 1966 Vietnam maps might benefit the software developers creating the Vietnam map and Korean map. 

Mike Force Team 

[Dragon1-1]

Maps are easy to come by, but imagery is needed. For historical maps, it can be hard to come by. 

Also, 1957 isn't a particularly useful year for a Vietnam map. At that time, the only thing going on was the VC insurgency and some CIA operations. It went much hotter later on.

[Guest]

Wags have stated that they are going to make a Nam map.

[SOLIDKREATE]

Updated post #1 to reflect the release status of the F-4E Phantom II.

[upyr1]

On 3/25/2024 at 11:21 AM, SOLIDKREATE said:

Updated post #1 to reflect the release status of the F-4E Phantom II.

It would be nice to have the Thud 

and the gulf of Tonkin yacht club

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/292575-gulf-of-tonkin-yacht-club-us-navy-from-1965-to-1975/#comment-4887549

 

 

Edited March 26, 2024 by upyr1

[Tree_Beard]

What I want: "Development of DCS: Vietnam is fully underway and will be the #1 priority for Eagle Dynamics going forward until it is finished and released"

What I get: "Prepare to experience the thrill of the most advanced F16 pilot model in the history of the world. Now featuring WIP digestive system and hair growth technology"

[Silver_Dragon]

8 minutes ago, Tree_Beard said:

What I want: "Development of DCS: Vietnam is fully underway and will be the #1 priority for Eagle Dynamics going forward until it is finished and released"

What I get: "Prepare to experience the thrill of the most advanced F16 pilot model in the history of the world. Now featuring WIP digestive system and hair growth technology"

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

29 minutes ago, Tree_Beard said:

What I want: "Development of DCS: Vietnam is fully underway and will be the #1 priority for Eagle Dynamics going forward until it is finished and released"

What I get: "Prepare to experience the thrill of the most advanced F16 pilot model in the history of the world. Now featuring WIP digestive system and hair growth technology"

Given the average age of DCS players, the latter becomes very attractive.

[felixx75]

1 hour ago, Tree_Beard said:

What I want: "Development of DCS: Vietnam is fully underway and will be the #1 priority for Eagle Dynamics going forward until it is finished and released"

What I get: "Prepare to experience the thrill of the most advanced F16 pilot model in the history of the world. Now featuring WIP digestive system and hair growth technology"

[Rick50]

 

If our personal gaming computers could handle 35 trillion  trees at 200 fps in VR at 4k, with dynamic campaigns and advanced artificial intelligence enemies and wingmen, we'd already have Vietnam and Korea, possibly the Solomon Islands  too.

So  clearly we have a little bit of a pause before we can expect DCS 'Nam...

[bies]

On 6/10/2024 at 4:40 AM, Rick50 said:

If our personal gaming computers could handle 35 trillion  trees at 200 fps in VR at 4k

1) The global number of trees is approximately 3.04 trillion.

2) Kola Peninsula has significantly higher tree density compared to Vietnam.

Edited July 10, 2024 by bies

[draconus]

On 6/10/2024 at 4:40 AM, Rick50 said:

If our personal gaming computers could handle 35 trillion  trees...

You don't display them all at once and there are LODs, drawing distance, terrain textures... Smart, not brute force.

Edited June 16, 2024 by draconus

[Rick50]

 

Ooooh,  ya got me~!!

The point wasn't me giving exact numbers, the point was, we neither have the hardware, nor software coding, to handle the nation  of Vietnam, in DCS yet.

Of course we have drawing distance and LOD's... but clearly that's not enough, not even close...  THAT tech  is 20+ years old, what's needed for a 'Nam map, that looks  like the real thing, keep the immersion,  give 100 fps in VR, as that's the baseline for sims very soon,  is other, new "tricks" of coding, along with better hardware that can truly keep  up with large air battles.

Look,  DCS employees have actually told us that tech is not yet able to do a 'Nam map yet, but that when the tech catches up, they ARE interested in making maps for SEA region.

So,  get the noggin joggin, and imagine, create and then share, possible tricks, methods, that could enable all the extra features a 'Nam map would need,  and then share or sell them  to ED.

 

Edit:

Or, if you feel it's doable today, then start raising funds and start a studio making that map. 

Edited June 16, 2024 by Rick50

[draconus]

10 hours ago, Rick50 said:

Of course we have drawing distance and LOD's... but clearly that's not enough, not even close...  THAT tech  is 20+ years old, what's needed for a 'Nam map, that looks  like the real thing, keep the immersion,  give 100 fps in VR, as that's the baseline for sims very soon,  is other, new "tricks" of coding, along with better hardware that can truly keep  up with large air battles.

For starters ED's engine is constantly worked on and improved and the old rendering techniques don't mean they are bad or not used to this day. Yes, they need both smart coding and more calculating power - as always - and some "100fps in VR" is pretty empty statement if you don't share whole set of info on hardware, settings and mission.

If you really meant "Nam map, that looks  like the real thing" you're going to keep dreaming a looong time. Here we're asking rather for current good enough/believable DCS maps graphics level.

[Silver_Dragon]

11 hours ago, Rick50 said:

 

Ooooh,  ya got me~!!

The point wasn't me giving exact numbers, the point was, we neither have the hardware, nor software coding, to handle the nation  of Vietnam, in DCS yet.

Of course we have drawing distance and LOD's... but clearly that's not enough, not even close...  THAT tech  is 20+ years old, what's needed for a 'Nam map, that looks  like the real thing, keep the immersion,  give 100 fps in VR, as that's the baseline for sims very soon,  is other, new "tricks" of coding, along with better hardware that can truly keep  up with large air battles.

Look,  DCS employees have actually told us that tech is not yet able to do a 'Nam map yet, but that when the tech catches up, they ARE interested in making maps for SEA region.

So,  get the noggin joggin, and imagine, create and then share, possible tricks, methods, that could enable all the extra features a 'Nam map would need,  and then share or sell them  to ED.

 

Edit:

Or, if you feel it's doable today, then start raising funds and start a studio making that map. 

 

ED has claimed Vietnam map, as Korea, talked by ED team as Wags, but does not have a development roadmap yet, waiting after Afghanistan, Iraq and “Germany”.

That old technology was updated on the 2.0 to new map technology (TDK) and all maps from NTTR have been built with them and was updated more in the last years, the actual maps have not builded with the LOMAC technology.... and working on "whole earth" technology.

Remember Kola map has more extension with SEA map. 1,400 km east-west by 1,000 km north-south, with more than 575,000 sq km of land and a total coverage area of ~1,350,000 sq km… the actual technology can build a South East Asia map without problems.

Edited June 17, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[SOLIDKREATE]

CHANGE LOG

• F-4E Phantom II released
• AH-1 Cobra in-work
• F-105B/G not happening

[draconus]

21 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

AH-1 Cobra in-work

Source?