So What Fighter-Bomber, Bomber would you (the Customer) like to see made into DCS Modules?

[GUFA]

So as of now we have the Tornado IDS in early development. Now as much as this pleases me, I am also a bit annoyed there is nothing on the OPFOR side to offer some balance to it (multiplayer particularly). At minimum a Su 24 needs to be made "Post Haste" to offer that balance, and my preference if I am playing team BLUFOR  would be for the "Pig" (F-1-11). But as much as these aircraft would be great FF modules, there are other choices.

Note: I will not be including the B-47 and B-52 in the poll because present Flight simulator hardware simply does not support this being turned into a module ( No one makes an 8 engine throttle controller). I will also not be adding TAC or Frontal aviation type to this poll or "A" Class USN aircraft.

If you think I forgotten any others let us know

Edited October 5, 2022 by GUFA
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[rkk01]

F-111 and Jag as blue low level strike

 

VULCAN

Edited October 5, 2022 by rkk01

[Cab]

You left out the Buccaneer.

The Brits are never going to let you hear the end of that.

[bies]

Practically any aircraft on this list would be awesome.

[Lurker]

For those who think that the Tornado will scratch that Interdiction itch, I got news for you. It's slow. It's got short legs. It's not an F-111 which should is the be all end all interdiction bomber that can do it all, and can put huge amounts of ordnance on target. 

If you didn't vote F-111 (or Su-24) youre doing it wrong.

[Lace]

I would love to see the F-117.  I know people call it a one-trick pony, flown essentially on autopilot with no real offensive or active defensive capabilities beyond putting a bomb on target.  Buuut, with an improvement in the mission planner, as part of a large campaign, it could play a valuable role.  The importance of ELINT gathering to plan ingress/egress routes and the tension of flying alone, in the dark, over hostile territory, would offer something different to most other modules.  I know RCS/EW modelling is very basic, but with some improvements, there should need to be too much fudging.  Plus, that shape! Nothing like it before or since.

More realistic though, F-111.

[GUFA]

11 minutes ago, rkk01 said:

VULCAN

 

7 minutes ago, Cab said:

Buccaneer

Could god damned kick myself for forgetting both of these. Could a forum moderator add these 2 to the list as I can't see how to edit the poll box. Thanks in advance

[rkk01]

6 minutes ago, Lurker said:

For those who think that the Tornado will scratch that Interdiction itch, I got news for you. It's slow.

A quick Google suggests both a good for circa 800kts at low level…?

[GUFA]

8 minutes ago, bies said:

Practically any aircraft on this list would be awesome.

Same but we as customers need to make the choise of what comes first

 

5 minutes ago, Lurker said:

If you didn't vote F-111 (or Su-24) youre doing it wrong.

Personally cant wait to be able to smash target with 24 "slick"/Snakeye/ Cluster bombs. And no an A6 can carry the same, but not over distance and not as fast

 

[GUFA]

17 minutes ago, rkk01 said:

For those who think that the Tornado will scratch that Interdiction itch, I got news for you. It's slow.

 

17 minutes ago, rkk01 said:

A quick Google suggests both a good for circa 800kts at low level…?

I remember reading,  sometime ages ago of account of RAF pilot/s that participated in Iraq 1, He (the pilot relaying his tale) used this phrase when talking about the Tonkas aerodynamics bombed up. He said "it had all the aerodynamics qualities of a thrown brick". And hey all the Tonkas deficiencies are the Germans fault anyway.

Seriously though the Tonka deserves its place in DCS it's  just <profanity>s me that REDFOR cant have a competitive capability to balance it in (Multiplayer games) the game.

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[Lace]

13 minutes ago, rkk01 said:

A quick Google suggests both a good for circa 800kts at low level…?

Go compare fuel capacity. 

Tonka could do a quick dash to target, but not sustain anywhere near that speed for long.  F-111 was designed to fly the whole mission supersonic at low level.

[rkk01]

Just now, Lace said:

Go compare fuel capacity

I deliberately didn’t….!

[GUFA]

Okay as my last post of the night I will cast my vote/s for what I would like.

1 & 2 F 1-11 & Su 24

now this is were it gets interesting:

3 & 4 Badger, Destroyer/Canberra

Now I'm not going to give a vote to all my choices so the last votes would go to (in know particular order to the Backfire, Bone, Buccaneer and a Fantasy Mirage IV.

The reason I haven't gone for something like the Bear or V Bomber is I simply think that anyone will be able to fly day long (24+hr). Whereas the Choices I have gone with work well over a 3-6max hour mission length. So for mean medium range + is where I see myself using a Fighter Bomber/ Bomber and I think these would be good choices for DCS FF modules.

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[Lurker]

1 hour ago, rkk01 said:

A quick Google suggests both a good for circa 800kts at low level…?

Oh really? Is that cruising speed or dash speed? Also with what bomb load would that be? Maybe a clean tornado, can match the F-111s speed but as soon as you strap on some bombs on that bad boy, you'll be lucky to break the sound barrier in the final supersonic dash. 

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[sirrah]

Perhaps not suited for the most action packed missions, then again which full blown bomber is, but I'd consider donating my left nut for a full fidelity module of the groundbreaking (pun intended):

F-117A 

 

(although I expect that's not going to happen within the next few decades)

 

 

Edit:

I like to be able to do everything myself in the cockpit and not have to rely on an AI or human crew member, so that's another + for the Nighthawk 

Edited October 5, 2022 by sirrah

[Bremspropeller]

Shaguar

Edited October 5, 2022 by Bremspropeller

[Bananabrai]

15 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

Shaguar

 

I could tell from here the Murage IV was catching your eye, be honest^^

WHY IS THE BONE NOT LEAdINg THiS POLL bY 500 MILeS???!?11 COME ON GUYZ!

[Bremspropeller]

Negative. Shaguar.

Plus, the Shag can nuke you, too.

Tanking from a Transall. Probably above Chad.

[upyr1]

The B-66 and A-3 should be different modules. The B-66 may have looked like the A-3 and had a similar mission set but they were very different.

The B-66 had unreliable engines. More were lost to flame outs than enemy fire. My dad almost went down over North Vietnam because of a flame out.

[SharpeXB]

On 10/5/2022 at 6:05 AM, GUFA said:

the "Pig" (F-1-11)

1 & 2 F 1-11

It’s F-111

 

 

Edited October 8, 2022 by SharpeXB

[GUFA]

On 10/6/2022 at 8:33 PM, Bremspropeller said:

Shaguar.

Plus, the Shag can nuke you, too.

Tanking from a Transall. Probably above Chad.

On a North African Map with Libya-Chad or the Sinai Map extended to Tunis-Southern Chadian Border. "OnReTech I am "looking at you!".

 

5 hours ago, upyr1 said:

The B-66 and A-3 should be different modules

Got no problem with this approach just just looking for a "period" bomber to scratch my itch. Can you actually start a thread talking about the B-66, maybe even have your dad regaie us with his "Destroyer" tales.

5 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

It’s F-111

She'll always be the "Pig" to me.

[GUFA]

On 10/6/2022 at 8:33 PM, Bremspropeller said:

Negative. Shaguar.

Now this would be were a VEAO Simulations could have really made a positive contribution to DCS. Plus they could have also added the best Tonkas. Brit spec IDS+F variants. Such a shame...

7 hours ago, upyr1 said:

he B-66 may have looked like the A-3 and had a similar mission set but they were very different.

Are you speaking to the electronic warfare mission set? Just looking for Clarification.

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[GUFA]

On 10/6/2022 at 7:20 PM, Bananabrai said:

I could tell from here the Murage IV was catching your eye, be honest^^

She has many suitors Foxy girl.

 

On 10/6/2022 at 7:20 PM, Bananabrai said:

WHY IS THE BONE NOT LEAdINg THiS POLL bY 500 MILeS???!?11 COME ON GUYZ!

Was mainly looking at that medium bombing class which doesn't necessarily exclude the Bone. put doesn't exactly support it either.Should conflict Kick Off in the SCS and the Bone is still operational it Will be hitting PLAN shipping in that range gap. As such why I added to this poll.

[upyr1]

1 hour ago, GUFA said:

Are you speaking to the electronic warfare mission set? Just looking for Clarification

Yes that's what they did during three  Vietnam war. Though there was the ka-3 and the eka-3. 

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[Dragon1-1]

Most of the big bombers are nuclear assets, chances of us getting any of those are very, very slim. 

F-111 and F-117, maybe. The Su-24 is currently unlikely for political reasons, since even MiG-29 got axed, but that could change depending on what happens in Russia. Canberra is old (so, not classified), iconic and has an awesome service record, but it was mostly a nuke bomber and high altitude recon, though it could also do conventional bombing, so it'd have a use in DCS.