RTX 4090 benchmarks! if anyone finds any, please post here!

[Air Joker]

58 minutes ago, Lt_Jaeger said:

 

I don't see a uplift in FPS in that guys findings, exept for high SS settings.

I am not on the hunt for more FPS, but basically want it smnooth during the whole spectrum of gameplay. My setting (3080TI and 5900x) starts to suck in MP and a busy boat for example. In SP I guess I could benifit from smaler farmetimes while FPS is no issue.

 

There is no way arounde a optimization of the DCS core if you ask me

 

Thanks!

...constant 40 FPS or 50 FPS with 150% SS and high Details...that is all I want!!! I would call this a massive improvment .

I guess game runs smooth and 150% SS is a lot sharper than 100% SS, which I have to use. And in my opinion 50 FPS are more than enough .

Edited October 14, 2022 by Air Joker

[Seabiscuit1985]

On 10/13/2022 at 5:43 AM, hannibal said:

a reddit user question my post.. will share details of my system

cpu amd 5800x3d

64gb ram

using m.2 ssd

gigabyte gaming OC 4090.

diy ah64 collective and diy tedac

*** note ** i dont bother to cover the case because of the stupid 4 way split power connector. it seems delicate

 

Wow, where did you get the cool apache collective? 

[some1]

1 hour ago, Lt_Jaeger said:

I don't see a uplift in FPS in that guys findings, exept for high SS settings.

You're CPU limited. CPU frametime at 17.5 ms means your theoretical CPU limit is 57 FPS (1000/17.5). The real limit is lower as not everything in the pipeline is accounted for. But the GPU frametime below 11 ms means that the GPU is capable of running DCS at 90 FPS, if the rest of your PC can keep up (faster CPU or a simpler mission). 

I swapped 3080 for a 4090 yesterday. Didn't have time to do much testing, but a simple overcast mission in the AH-64 which was barely playable with RTX3080/5800X3D/Reverb G2 at 70%SS now runs at 90 fps at the same settings. Gpu frametime went down from 17.5 to 8.5 without IHADSS, and from 23ms to 9.3 with IHADSS. Of course in the case of RTX3080 a lot of that uplift comes from extra VRAM on a new card. Still, your graphs show that compared to 3090, RTX4090 gives 50-80% more headroom for GPU processing. 

MP or a heavy mission with a lot of units, I don't think any CPU is capable of running DCS at 90FPS in VR, but at least with 4090 you can crank up the resolution and eyecandy. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by some1

[Seabiscuit1985]

4 minutes ago, some1 said:

You're CPU limited. CPU frametime at 17.5 ms means your theoretical CPU limit is 57 FPS (1000/17.5). The real limit is lower as not everything in the pipeline is accounted for. But the GPU frametime below 11 ms means that the GPU is capable of running DCS at 90 FPS, if the rest of your PC can keep up (faster CPU or a simpler mission). 

I swapped 3080 for a 4090 yesterday. Didn't have time to do much testing, but a simple overcast mission in the AH-64 which was barely playable with 3080/5800X3D/Reverb G2 at 70%SS now runs at 90 fps at the same settings. Gpu frametime went down from 17.5 to 8.5 without IHADSS, and from 23ms to 9.3 with IHADSS. Of course in the case of RTX3080 a lot of that uplift comes from extra VRAM on a new card. Still, your graphs show that compared to 3090, RTX4090 gives 50-80% more headroom for GPU processing. 

MP or a heavy mission with a lot of units, I don't think any CPU is capable of running DCS at 90FPS in VR, but at least with 4090 you can crank up the resolution more. 

 

90fps in VR is better than I could ever expect

[hannibal]

1 hour ago, Seabiscuit1985 said:

90fps in VR is better than I could ever expect

In single player. 90fps with 4090 is np..but multiplayer is another story

[hannibal]

2 hours ago, Seabiscuit1985 said:

Wow, where did you get the cool apache collective? 

I built my own...

@Lt_Jaeger weren't you building a diy tedac controls?

[Lt_Jaeger]

4 hours ago, hannibal said:

I built my own...

@Lt_Jaeger weren't you building a diy tedac controls?

Kind off, just copied yours.

I did put all that stuff in a very rough state away in the corner. I did not found myself getting the kick out of such modern stuff.  

 

[hannibal]

36 minutes ago, Lt_Jaeger said:

Kind off, just copied yours.

I did put all that stuff in a very rough state away in the corner. I did not found myself getting the kick out of such modern stuff.  

 

I in the process of building a second set of tedac grips..but I don't blame u about stepping away from it.. I started a thread about AH64 FLIR.. In current state it's hard to see targets with tedac..

Who knows, you will find new interest for ur tedac when F15E drops, with the WSO need for multiple sticks.., I think our diy tedac grips can facilitate the F15E additional control grips.. along with when ever there will be radar hellfires.

For someone who was able to make the grips..u ever though about building a motion platform? 

Btw, which 4090 did u pickup?

Edited October 14, 2022 by hannibal

[Lt_Jaeger]

I believe the F-15 will become another hangar queen. Seems I only enjoy Airframes roughly my age. Currently the F-14 is my goto ride almost exclusively, with the occasional hop in the Mirage F1. I'm so waiting for the HB Phantom. A dream that will come true. 

 

As with the 4090, I'm not sure. Had my finger on the order button for a FE but stepped away from it. I guess I wait a little more, or even for the 4080ti. For the 20xx and 30xx I took the 80ti version due to basically only doing dcs and there were only minor performance penalties while saving a buck or two. 

I mean, come on, 2000€ in these times. I could afford it, but the current situation made me think of spending that much money on a "toy". That might change tomorrow though.

 

I will just wait for more reports and also think about upgrading to the new AMD generation, which means basically a complete new computer. 

[DerKlausi]

Got my 4090 Strix OC today and did a first performance comparison with my OC'd 3090. Due to the stutter issues with the 4090, results should be taken with a grain of salt.

Hardware: Asus 4090 Strix OC (Stock) vs. Gigabyte 3090 Aorus Xtreme with additional OC, 12900K@5400/5700, Gskill DDR5@6400C32, Asus ROG Hero Z690; Varjo Aero
Software: NV 516.40 / 522.25, Varjo Base 3.5.1, DCS latest OB with OpenXR via OpenComposite 0.6.3, analysis with CapFrameX.
Bench flight: Replay of 2:30min pre-recorded Viper Instant Free Flight over Caucasus, of which were roughly 2min hugging treetops and buildings, then up through the clouds. The HMD was resting on the table and nudged every couple of seconds to prevent displays from going idle. DCS on MSAA2x with the most of the other settings pretty much maxed out.

[Hotdognz]

6 minutes ago, DerKlausi said:

Got my 4090 Strix OC today and did a first performance comparison with my OC'd 3090. Due to the stutter issues with the 4090, results should be taken with a grain of salt.

Hardware: Asus 4090 Strix OC (Stock) vs. Gigabyte 3090 Aorus Xtreme with additional OC, 12900K@5400/5700, Gskill DDR5@6400C32, Asus ROG Hero Z690; Varjo Aero
Software: NV 516.40 / 522.25, Varjo Base 3.5.1, DCS latest OB with OpenXR via OpenComposite 0.6.3, analysis with CapFrameX.
Bench flight: Replay of 2:30min pre-recorded Viper Instant Free Flight over Caucasus, of which were roughly 2min hugging treetops and buildings, then up through the clouds. The HMD was resting on the table and nudged every couple of seconds to prevent displays from going idle. DCS on MSAA2x with the most of the other settings pretty much maxed out.

What were the stutter issues ??

 

[DerKlausi]

Severe stutters especially when turning your head = HMD, experienced by all Aero users with the 4090. Some also experience it with the Pimax 8kx at large FOV setting. The issue is being investigated by Varjo and hopefully NV as well. Most games are currently unplayable.

Though the Aero was resting on a table during my benchmark, there could still have been stutters having an impact on FPS.

[Hotdognz]

Also what missions was used for the test ??

[DerKlausi]

vor 1 Minute schrieb Hotdognz:

Also what missions was used for the test ??

It's in my post...

[Rubber Biscuit]

37 minutes ago, DerKlausi said:

Got my 4090 Strix OC today and did a first performance comparison with my OC'd 3090. Due to the stutter issues with the 4090, results should be taken with a grain of salt.

Hardware: Asus 4090 Strix OC (Stock) vs. Gigabyte 3090 Aorus Xtreme with additional OC, 12900K@5400/5700, Gskill DDR5@6400C32, Asus ROG Hero Z690; Varjo Aero
Software: NV 516.40 / 522.25, Varjo Base 3.5.1, DCS latest OB with OpenXR via OpenComposite 0.6.3, analysis with CapFrameX.
Bench flight: Replay of 2:30min pre-recorded Viper Instant Free Flight over Caucasus, of which were roughly 2min hugging treetops and buildings, then up through the clouds. The HMD was resting on the table and nudged every couple of seconds to prevent displays from going idle. DCS on MSAA2x with the most of the other settings pretty much maxed out.

How was your CPU doing, was there any CPU headroom.

 

29 minutes ago, DerKlausi said:

Severe stutters especially when turning your head = HMD, experienced by all Aero users with the 4090. Some also experience it with the Pimax 8kx at large FOV setting. The issue is being investigated by Varjo and hopefully NV as well. Most games are currently unplayable.

Though the Aero was resting on a table during my benchmark, there could still have been stutters having an impact on FPS.

I am reading some issues with the 4090 most likely drivers.

crashing in MSFS with some settings.

[Air Joker]

Got my Palit RTX 4090 OC today.

No issues at all with VR, neither in DCS nor in MFS.

Improvment is impressive.

High/Ultra Settings, 150 %SS on Open XR, PD 1.0...DCS runs (with "motion reprojection") almost allways over the 30 FPS-Limit of MR .

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Air Joker

[Seabiscuit1985]

2 hours ago, Air Joker said:

Got my Palit RTX 4090 OC today.

No issues at all with VR, neither in DCS nor in MFS.

Improvment is impressive.

High/Ultra Settings, 150 %SS on Open XR, PD 1.0...DCS runs (with "motion reprojection") almost allways over the 30 FPS-Limit of MR .

 

 

What VR set do you use? 

[Sorata]

Glad to see the 4090 doing so well.

I gave up on getting the Strix OC model as its saying sold out. I had it ordered in less than a minute after the sales opened and got a confirmation number then Newegg cancelled it on me so I had to settle for now on a TUF OC 4090. I also have a i9-13900k ordered and a EKWB front and active back waterblock. Should perform the exact same as the Strix from what test I've seen, same PCB only difference is the boost is 0045 lower but they the same performance wise within 1-2 fps, wonder how DCS will take these. After seeing post here I'm optimistic.

[Air Joker]

4 hours ago, Seabiscuit1985 said:

What VR set do you use? 

HP Reverb G2

[zildac]

38 minutes ago, Air Joker said:

HP Reverb G2

G2 is fine...Varjo, Pimax and maybe others are not

Edited October 15, 2022 by zildac

[DerKlausi]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Air Joker:

HP Reverb G2

The stuttering issue currently only affects high-res headsets, which the G2 isn't (anymore). Seemingly no issues with other low/medium-res HMDs like VP2, Q2 etc. as well.

vor 10 Stunden schrieb Rubber Biscuit:

How was your CPU doing, was there any CPU headroom.

Plenty of headroom left. Mind you, this was the SP instant flight 'mission'.

Edited October 15, 2022 by DerKlausi

[Werewolf_fs]

With the stuttering problems, with  Win11 22H2, I have this problems  with Reverb G2...  I suffer from them and t it you have to disable the HolographicShell and it is totally solved. I don't think it will work for the Varjo, but.... to see

More data here: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/poor-vr-performance-on-windows-11-22h2/525280

Since it has to be stopped every time it restarts, I make a .bat file that I execute when I restart:

@echo off
logman stop HolographicShell -ets

About the 4090, I personally will wait a few months until we have more data, I am quite happy with the performance of my 3090 (with 12900k) with OpenXR right now

Edited October 15, 2022 by Werewolf_fs

[Air Joker]

53 minutes ago, Werewolf_fs said:

With the stuttering problems, with  Win11 22H2, I have this problems  with Reverb G2...

We are using different Windowsversions. I'm on Win10 21H2.

No Problems with G2.

Edited October 15, 2022 by Air Joker

[Lange_666]

4 hours ago, AirMeister said:

These awful framedrops, hickups, extreme under utilization of hardware. 

I can't anymore i'm not buying any modules until this godawful source code or engine or whatever is brought into the current century

On the other hand, mine runs perfectly fine and super smooth. So...?

[Burt]

Rig tuning is what you need. VR runs absolutely perfect.