investigating 2.8 loading textures takes a loooooong time.

[TAIPAN_]

On 12/21/2022 at 10:28 AM, backspace340 said:

Try picking a hotstart slot on this mission: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3321127/

Reproduces for me every time - takes a while for MPD, external aircraft and ground textures to fill in and become visible. 

This is a good mission to reproduce it.

I get it bad, with NVME SSDs, 32gb ram, Ryzen X3D CPU, and 3090 with 24gb.

I do have a massive monitor and MFD exports, and there are a million other settings that can be tested... but I haven't been able to narrow it down to a single one yet (except the DCS 2.8 upgrade)

[Floyd1212]

@BIGNEWY Were you ever able to get someone internal to reproduce this?

I get longer texture loading delays after 2.8 (as do other members of my squad) when loading into a mission with multiple slots available.  Pick a slot and spawn in, and watch textures inside and outside the aircraft load over 10-15 sec.  Prior to 2.8 I had never seen the "floating above the water" condition which is all too often now.

i7-9700K | 64GB | NVME SSD | 3090

[BIGNEWY]

We have a report open for longer load times with the AH-64D due to liveries, I will mention this thread to the team again, but I have not had any other feedback from them at this time regarding general load times. 

 

[okopanja]

9 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

We have a report open for longer load times with the AH-64D due to liveries, I will mention this thread to the team again, but I have not had an other feedback from them at this time regarding general load times. 

 

I think this occurs even when AH-64D is not flying at all (although to be best knowledge slot exists for AH-64D).

[TAIPAN_]

F-14 has similar slow times like the Apache, maybe even slower. Though that may be something for Heatblur.

However it only really happens in combination with Syria or the newer maps, due to the combo of map textures and aircraft textures.

Missions where the slots are on alot of airbases that cause textures to load when you change airbase are prime candidate for producing this, though it is only for the first 5 minutes or so after coming into the server. Once you've loaded everything it seems ok.

[Predator-78]

Same problem...

Inviato dal mio SM-G998B utilizzando Tapatalk

[iQyThradz3137i]

I assume this is just how the Flight Sim is longer texture loading i noticed this on Nevada which I am ok with since its a know issue and its not really a problem just about 15seconds to load everything. 

[TAIPAN_]

Found an issue Windows had caused with my D Drive SSD where DCS is stored. It seems it's an obscure issue with Kingston SSDs that Windows had trouble creating the partition properly. Possibly because it was one of the newer Gen4 SSDs with 4TB space.

Solved by re-creating the partition, formatting then installing DCS again. While these certain maps/aircraft are slower than others, the loading time is alot faster.

Worth checking. This does not show up in Crystal Disk performance test, but will show up in a normal file copy test looking at performance mb/s in task manager. Should be in the hundreds but was in the tens before the fix.

 

[Alpiinoo]

Same problem still here.

[Nedum]

Last time I saw this problem, it was bound with the shadow setting, and it was 2 or 3 patches in the past. Since then, it never happened for me again.

Left side must be set to something higher than flat at least, the right side (terrain shadow) was set to flat, or vice versa, I don't know anymore. With both shadow settings set to higher than flat, the issue was gone.

A fix for that was to hit F2 at start to enter the external view. With that, there was no load time anymore.

It may help you.

 

[Mainstay]

I can confirm this is a serious issue at this day. Was driving me nuts and thinking something is wrong with my pc.

Apparently its a wider problem, especially Multiplayer servers are so bad loading up textures and getting in right now.

Its almost unplayable combined with the latest issues (stuttering/freezing).  

[Sparc]

This issue is happening to me as well. I just upgraded my ram from 16 to 32 today in hopes this was the problem but same thing. Takes about 8-10 seconds for everything to load up. Kinda bugs me. Single player (open beta) 

 

bf109 campaign mission 3

 

i7 12700kf

RTX 4070ti 12gb

2 tb ssd

32gb ram 3200mgz DDR4

dpvr e4 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Sparc

[Flappie]

5 hours ago, Sparc said:

This issue is happening to me as well. I just upgraded my ram from 16 to 32 today in hopes this was the problem but same thing. Takes about 8-10 seconds for everything to load up. Kinda bugs me. Single player (open beta)

I recently upgraded my PC (RAM 32GB -> 64 GB, DCS on SSD -> NVME) hoping it would change anything. It didn't.

It only happens when I enter a Client slot, even in a local game (no such issue with the Player slot).

[Pavlin_33]

On 6/5/2023 at 4:37 PM, Floyd1212 said:

@BIGNEWY Were you ever able to get someone internal to reproduce this?

I get longer texture loading delays after 2.8 (as do other members of my squad) when loading into a mission with multiple slots available.  Pick a slot and spawn in, and watch textures inside and outside the aircraft load over 10-15 sec.  Prior to 2.8 I had never seen the "floating above the water" condition which is all too often now.

i7-9700K | 64GB | NVME SSD | 3090

Is it better in ST?

[okopanja]

3 hours ago, Flappie said:

I recently upgraded my PC (RAM 32GB -> 64 GB, DCS on SSD -> NVME) hoping it would change anything. It didn't.

Perhaps, the bottleneck might be the way the textures are loaded from main RAM into the card itself. BTW upgrading to 64GB is not waste of money. It will make your machine work way less with the disk, since OS will cache lot's of files. In addition it will reduce the wear out of the disk itself (e.g. lower temperature).

[Flappie]

11 minutes ago, okopanja said:

BTW upgrading to 64GB is not waste of money. It will make your machine work way less with the disk, since OS will cache lot's of files.

Yes, that was my main goal, and I also needed a bigger drive.

[Furiz]

On 12/22/2023 at 8:49 AM, Flappie said:

I recently upgraded my PC (RAM 32GB -> 64 GB, DCS on SSD -> NVME) hoping it would change anything. It didn't.

It only happens when I enter a Client slot, even in a local game (no such issue with the Player slot).

I can confirm, for me in client slot it loads very slow, and in player slot it is instant. Also it will load slow if in player slot but other available slots are set to client. And if all other slots are set to player it will load instantly.

So it is definitely tied to client slot.

Any update on this issue?

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

12 hours ago, Furiz said:

I can confirm, for me in client slot it loads very slow, and in player slot it is instant. Also it will load slow if in player slot but other available slots are set to client. And if all other slots are set to player it will load instantly.

So it is definitely tied to client slot.

Any update on this issue?

Same experience here. So I am guessing if you set it to player and the rest AI, it knows that's the pit to preload so it is instant. While if you set it to player + clients or all clients, it doesn't know which slot you'll pick and hence does not preload any pit - the only way for it to be instant would be to preload all pits in the slots. (Only one player slot is allowed per mission in ME/SP.)    

Edited February 11, 2024 by GrEaSeLiTeNiN

[Furiz]

Any news on this one?

[cptsolo]

Still having this issue! For the F4E it sometimes takes minutes to load the cockpit textures. The second time, I run the mission, everything is fast. Maybe it's the shaders, that have to be compiled every time again? 

[wcdiver]

23 hours ago, cptsolo said:

Still having this issue! For the F4E it sometimes takes minutes to load the cockpit textures. The second time, I run the mission, everything is fast. Maybe it's the shaders, that have to be compiled every time again? 

I've got the same problem. It shows itself the most in SP, in campaigns like Retribution/Liberation (lots of units) and in multiplayer. Even the Hind sometimes takes 2 - 3 minutes to load the cockpit textures. Ram usage spikes to max (32 GB). After it loads the textures, it drops significantly.

[Trooper.Banshee]

I've been struggling with this until I did a clean install. I found the culprit to be TacView....