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Rudel_chw

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36 minutes ago, BalticDude said:

Campaigns on the DCS store which I'm referring to, will they be able to be played with the new Ka-50-3?


If the Campaign developer updates his Campaign, then sure, it will be able to be flown with the BS3, but until that happens they would be BS2-only.

 

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13 hours ago, BalticDude said:

Campaigns on the DCS store which I'm referring to, will they be able to be played with the new Ka-50-3?

Yes please, it would be great if the old campaigns could be made available for BS3. 

Also please fix the original campaigns: Deployment, Georgan Oil War.
Over time as DCS world has evolved, errors has accumulated in some of the campaign missions. Just check the Campaign section here on the forums for details. It is a shame that these old campaigns are no longer beeing maintained as they are quite good. Also these old campaigns if they are not working will cause uneccessary frustration for new pilots. 

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Rudel_chw

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14 minutes ago, grimnir said:

Also please fix the original campaigns: Deployment, Georgan Oil War.


A user has already converted Deployment for the BS3:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3328007/

 

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Rudel_chw

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1 hour ago, grimnir said:

But it would be best if the stock campaigns worked and were available out of the box.

 

guess it's impossible to please all people, this guy spent some hours converting the Campaign and it is so easily dismissed? 

Myself, I have  so far converted the 1st mission of the Vergeev Campaign, but I now wonder if it is really worth it  😞

 

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2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

guess it's impossible to please all people, this guy spent some hours converting the Campaign and it is so easily dismissed? 

Myself, I have  so far converted the 1st mission of the Vergeev Campaign, but I now wonder if it is really worth it  😞

 

I did not dismiss it, it is great that dedicated individuals does this. I will download and try it for sure.

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aleader

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3 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

guess it's impossible to please all people, this guy spent some hours converting the Campaign and it is so easily dismissed? 

Myself, I have  so far converted the 1st mission of the Vergeev Campaign, but I now wonder if it is really worth it  😞

 

When ED are selling the campaigns with the FULL PRICE module, of course they should be maintaining said campaigns.  How is this hard to comprehend?  Users should not have to 'fix' stock campaigns that are included with a module 🙄

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grimnir

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28 minutes ago, aleader said:

When ED are selling the campaigns with the FULL PRICE module, of course they should be maintaining said campaigns.  How is this hard to comprehend?  Users should not have to 'fix' stock campaigns that are included with a module 🙄

That was my point, thanks. Not to say I do not appreciate the work put in by users to fix these campaigns, because I do. But stock campaigns should just work without any hassle.

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Rudel_chw

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2 hours ago, aleader said:

How is this hard to comprehend?  Users should not have to 'fix' stock campaigns that are included with a module 🙄

 

Don't know how is this so hard to understand 🙄  ... BS3 does not have any Campaign included with it, so there is nothing to "fix".

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13 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Don't know how is this so hard to understand 🙄  ... BS3 does not have any Campaign included with it, so there is nothing to "fix".

Every time I see you post it's always in opposition to people. Can't you just admit BS2 campaigns should be made to be available with BS3 as well? Soon BS2 won't even be able to be purchased.

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Rudel_chw

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16 minutes ago, BalticDude said:

Every time I see you post it's always in opposition to people.


Then you really should put me on your ignored users list 🤨 

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14 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Don't know how is this so hard to understand 🙄  ... BS3 does not have any Campaign included with it, so there is nothing to "fix".

We do know that. But stock campaigns for BS2 (Deployment at least) does have bugs that has not been fixed, which creates unecessary frustration for new users. Fixing these should be a priority, and I do hope you agree with that? 

When fixed, porting these campaigns to BS3 shouldn't be to hard either. Again I don't mind downloading from User Files, but it is not very user friendly. Many people play single player only, and for these people having workable campaigns is essentail for enjoying the product.

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I edited the Deployment campaign and all the single Ka50 msn’s.. takes about 1 minute per mission. Simply open msn, select all units button, then helo, find the Ka50 and make it Ka50 III. You do have to select a new load out as per the msn description as switching helo leaves them empty. And with the new clouds, it defaults all static wx to no clouds so I selected clouds based on the wx entered. Dynamic remains the same. Saved into my missions folder. Works fine.

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Schlomo1933

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That’s not so easy for all missions. Some have mission triggers inside . And if they are programmed for the BS2 then u need to change them also to the bs3 … to find them and change them could be a pain in the xxx 😰

also for long flights , u need to setup fix points now. (Because of the implemented INU drift)

but yes. I would also like that all the payware campaigns get ported to BS3. 

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grimm862

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On 12/21/2022 at 2:50 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 

Don't know how is this so hard to understand 🙄  ... BS3 does not have any Campaign included with it, so there is nothing to "fix".

Considering they only sell the blackshark 3 now, they are still selling BS2 campaigns and you won't even be able to play them unless you bought the bs2 before the bs3 came out. So they are literally selling content that doesn't work what so ever.

Imagine buying the new BS3 module for 70 dollars, then spending another 15 or whatever the campaigns cost, only to find out it isn't playable and you cannot purchase the bs2 to play the campaign that you just purchased. But I guess you don't have any issue with that. It's not really something worth defending ED on but do you.

Rudel_chw

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2 hours ago, grimm862 said:

Considering they only sell the blackshark 3 now, they are still selling BS2 campaigns and you won't even be able to play them unless you bought the bs2 before the bs3 came out. So they are literally selling content that doesn't work what so ever.


I agree with your assessment and cant understand why ED didn’t include BS2 along with BS3 as they did with the A-10C II, however, I was in fact replying to this post "Users should not have to 'fix' stock campaigns that are included with a module" which I believed was inaccurate.

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Rudel_chw

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1 hour ago, Er.tz said:

The bs III has the option to fly with 2011 legacy mode, have old campaign  issues with that too?

 

The old Campaigns are made for the BS2 ... if you don't own it and only own BS3 you won't be able to play those Campaigns unless they are modified to use BS3 rather than BS2 .. the legacy mode of BS3 is not the same as a true BS2.

 

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What BS2 is not included in BS3 like the A-10C?
That blows my mind.
Well, some DLC third parties has stated they will update their campaigns, and hopefully ED will do it too if BS2 ain't part of the package.

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BBQ

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I converted the Vergeev Group campaign to work with BS2 back in the day - and it took weeks of work.

I'm considering doing it again for BS3 - but I haven't bee involved in DCS for some years now. If I decide to do it, I'll post a thread on progress.

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Yeti42

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I've nearly finished converting the "Deployment" campaign to BS3.  I think it's one of the oldest campaigns so there was quite a lot of work involved and I had to fly through every mission multiple times to fix them.  Apart from simply changing the model to BS3 in the ME, I also checked the weapons load-outs, the correct helmet-mounted device (defaulted to NVG normally) Set INU to no alignment needed, removed trees from areas with targets where there were no trees originally, changed some AI load-outs for SEAD where the AI was useless, plus a few more tweaks which make the missions slightly more achievable. I also cut some of the longer mission routes which involved flying for ages and then not having enough fuel.  Will upload in hopefully a few days from now. 
Edit: Finished! Attached zip file, search for user pyates2104
Deployment Campaign for Black Shark 3 (digitalcombatsimulator.com)

BS3_Deployment.zip

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