gulredrel Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Hello, I installed the Mossie as trial period yesterday and did only one flight. Have only mapped real relevant axis and keybinds. Is there a way to silence the gear warning sound? Throttling back below +7 boost for endurance or slowing down for landing it can be quite annoying. Or is it supposed to operate that high? Haven't found something in the search. Thanks Jens
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razo+r Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 There is no silencer, however, having the horn blowing at +7 seems questionable but the original topic on that has been forgotten, as usual currently. 1 1
gulredrel Posted January 25, 2023 Author Posted January 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, razo+r said: There is no silencer, however, having the horn blowing at +7 seems questionable but the original topic on that has been forgotten, as usual currently. Thanks for pointing me there. Yes, indeed. Can't imagine that it was supposed to be that way. My search was for "gear waring horn" and so on. Never thought about looking for undercarriage So no native speaker here.
Skewgear Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Bring the revs back for cruise. You'll find that improves the situation as lower revs alters the achievable boost for a given throttle setting. The aircraft wasn't designed to be flown at 3000rpm all the rime. 1 DCS WWII player. I run the mission design team behind 4YA WWII, the most popular DCS World War 2 server. https://www.ProjectOverlord.co.uk - for 4YA WW2 mission stats, mission information, historical research blogs and more.
Bozon Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) This should be in the special options tab - to turn this horn off completely. Edited January 26, 2023 by Bozon 1 “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
Q3ark Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 8:57 PM, Skewgear said: Bring the revs back for cruise. You'll find that improves the situation as lower revs alters the achievable boost for a given throttle setting. The aircraft wasn't designed to be flown at 3000rpm all the rime. You wouldn’t fly any aircraft at 3000 RPM. The gear warning does kick in too high. 2
Andurula Posted August 24, 2024 Posted August 24, 2024 Actual crew accounts that I am reading state that a typical cruise speed was 240mph because it made the navigator's job easy ( an even 4 miles per minute) and was a good economical cruise speed at low level. This of course is below the threshold for the gear warning horn. The accounts never say anything about the gear warning horn going off constantly so I think I can add my name to the list of people that would like to see this fixed. It is clearly off. It would be nice to simulate how the Mossie was actually flown without being driven mental by that gawdawful sound. 1
VampireNZ Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Latest Changelog.... DCS: Mosquito FB VI by Eaglе Dynamics Fixed. Undercarriage warning horn sound in improper conditions Gear warning buzzer still sounding at +7 lbs of Boost??? Why say it is fixed? Vampire
Art-J Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Because in previous build it was sounding all the time unless you pulled throttles back to idle. That got fixed. 1 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Prorok Posted July 5 Posted July 5 3 часа назад, VampireNZ сказал: Latest Changelog.... DCS: Mosquito FB VI by Eaglе Dynamics Fixed. Undercarriage warning horn sound in improper conditions Gear warning buzzer still sounding at +7 lbs of Boost??? Why say it is fixed? It's working in proper way now [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
VampireNZ Posted July 5 Posted July 5 13 hours ago, Art-J said: Because in previous build it was sounding all the time unless you pulled throttles back to idle. That got fixed. Ah ok - yea I had uninstalled the Moquito Module due to the ridiculous fantasy power curve with warning horn sounding continously at the Max Cont power setting of +7 lbs....guess I will be deleting it again lol. Is why I don't buy new modules anymore... 10 hours ago, Prorok said: It's working in proper way now Riiiiight.. Well, my hats off then to the brave men that flew the Mosquito across Europe at Max Continous power setting of +7 Lbs boost with the gear warning horn sounding the entire time - guess it helped drown out the sound of flak explosions.... 1 Vampire
felixx75 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 +7 lbs boost is not idle... If the warning tone still sounds at +7 lbs boost, this is still wrong and should be fixed as soon as possible. No one can fly like this without going mad.
Prorok Posted July 6 Posted July 6 8 часов назад, VampireNZ сказал: Ah ok - yea I had uninstalled the Moquito Module due to the ridiculous fantasy power curve with warning horn sounding continously at the Max Cont power setting of +7 lbs....guess I will be deleting it again lol. Is why I don't buy new modules anymore... Riiiiight.. Well, my hats off then to the brave men that flew the Mosquito across Europe at Max Continous power setting of +7 Lbs boost with the gear warning horn sounding the entire time - guess it helped drown out the sound of flak explosions.... Ok, I got it, we need a button to switch off the horn. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Art-J Posted July 6 Posted July 6 10 hours ago, VampireNZ said: Ah ok - yea I had uninstalled the Moquito Module due to the ridiculous fantasy power curve with warning horn sounding continously at the Max Cont power setting of +7 lbs....guess I will be deleting it again lol. Is why I don't buy new modules anymore... Riiiiight.. Well, my hats off then to the brave men that flew the Mosquito across Europe at Max Continous power setting of +7 Lbs boost with the gear warning horn sounding the entire time - guess it helped drown out the sound of flak explosions.... Horn is activated by throttle levers position only, so you can go below 7 without setting it off simply by decreasing RPM for better economy. Also, at medium and high alts you'll always be above that lever position anyway. Granted, that indeed doesn't help folks who want to fly across the Channel, low and at 2650 RPM. 1 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Bozon Posted July 6 Posted July 6 11 hours ago, Art-J said: … Granted, that indeed doesn't help folks who want to fly across the Channel, low and at 2650 RPM. What RPM an I supposed to use with continuous +7 boost? “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
felixx75 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 7 hours ago, Bozon said: What RPM an I supposed to use with continuous +7 boost? 2650 RPM
Bozon Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 hour ago, felixx75 said: 2650 RPM That’s what I thought. Why is the horn blowing then? Makes no sense. +7 is not a low boost - it is way too much for a landing approach, and an undercarriage warning is out of place in such conditions. “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
felixx75 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 13 minutes ago, Bozon said: That’s what I thought. Why is the horn blowing then? Makes no sense. +7 is not a low boost - it is way too much for a landing approach, and an undercarriage warning is out of place in such conditions. The manual says that the warning horn is triggered at a throttle position of less than 1/4. Whether this is actually implemented correctly or not is something you have to check in the simulation. But it has nothing to do with the RPM.
Rolds Posted Saturday at 04:46 AM Posted Saturday at 04:46 AM This horn cannot be right at all, min rpm of 1800 lets me run a little over 33" of mercury (+3 boost) before the horn sounds, and the mosquito cruises along at about 230mph. Fine, but what if I want to loiter in a spot, say in a maximum economy mode, perhaps while attempting to communicate with the navigator, or via a radio. Why do I need to listen to this horn throughout that? Please someone show me a source that says it was really like this, otherwise common sense was not consulted on this module. 1
Rolds Posted Saturday at 05:00 AM Posted Saturday at 05:00 AM On 7/6/2025 at 11:57 PM, felixx75 said: The manual says that the warning horn is triggered at a throttle position of less than 1/4. Whether this is actually implemented correctly or not is something you have to check in the simulation. But it has nothing to do with the RPM. Where does it say that? I'll bet you $20 the real horn comes on in the first 1/4" of the throttle's travel, not the first 1/4 of the throttles full range of motion, then someone misinterpreted it, and no one went back and checked. 1
blue_six Posted Saturday at 09:51 PM Posted Saturday at 09:51 PM Hi felixx75, if it's not too late, suggest you take up Rolds on his offer of a bet. I've copies of pilot's notes for three variants of the Mosquito, including our FB VI, and they all clearly state one quarter throttle. Publication dates range from Aug 43 to Jan 50. See attached excerpt from the Jan 50 notes for the FB6. If when Rolds' says "someone misinterpreted it" he means the devs, seems to me they've got it right. If he means the pilot's notes themselves are wrong, I'd suggest the odds of an error there persisting over seven years seems pretty remote. Particularly when the horn in question is so aggravating. 1
Bozon Posted Sunday at 07:25 AM Posted Sunday at 07:25 AM On 7/26/2025 at 8:00 AM, Rolds said: Where does it say that? I'll bet you $20 the real horn comes on in the first 1/4" of the throttle's travel, not the first 1/4 of the throttles full range of motion, then someone misinterpreted it, and no one went back and checked. I would have believed this interpretation, and even that the explicit word “inch” was omitted from the manuals and was just obvious to the pilots at the time - except that 1/4” is very little movement. If it were true it means in practice that the horn will activate only when you pull the throttle all the way back. 1 “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
Rolds Posted yesterday at 03:47 AM Posted yesterday at 03:47 AM On 7/27/2025 at 12:25 AM, Bozon said: I would have believed this interpretation, and even that the explicit word “inch” was omitted from the manuals and was just obvious to the pilots at the time - except that 1/4” is very little movement. If it were true it means in practice that the horn will activate only when you pull the throttle all the way back. That would have worked fine, pilot on approach and landing would eventually get there and notice with enough time for a go around, even if it is just on the roundout. Many retractable landing gear aircraft of this era had no comparable system. The dealbreaker for the current DCS implementation is that the horn sounds loudly in the cockpit throughout a large part of the flight envelope that would regularly be used, and for prolonged periods of flight (economy loiter, descent, others). I don't know what has gone wrong here but it is something. I encourage people to simply step back and ask if this makes sense. For pilots more familiar with the mosquito, I am finding that the horn appears tied to the throttle setting rather than its position in the throttles range. I tried to put a user defined curve in to have a very low power setting just outside of the HORN ZONE but it isn't working. I have noticed that the horn is only tied to one throttle so idling the other engine kindof serves as a workaround.
Bozon Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago On 7/29/2025 at 6:47 AM, Rolds said: That would have worked fine, pilot on approach and landing would eventually get there and notice with enough time for a go around, even if it is just on the roundout. Many retractable landing gear aircraft of this era had no comparable system. The dealbreaker for the current DCS implementation is that the horn sounds loudly in the cockpit throughout a large part of the flight envelope that would regularly be used, and for prolonged periods of flight (economy loiter, descent, others). I don't know what has gone wrong here but it is something. I encourage people to simply step back and ask if this makes sense. For pilots more familiar with the mosquito, I am finding that the horn appears tied to the throttle setting rather than its position in the throttles range. I tried to put a user defined curve in to have a very low power setting just outside of the HORN ZONE but it isn't working. I have noticed that the horn is only tied to one throttle so idling the other engine kindof serves as a workaround. I absolutely agree that the current implementation does not make sense. I only stated that the suggestion that the “quarter” from the manual implicitly refers to “1/4 inch”, is a too small travel to give an exact number for - the manual would have said “closed throttle”, or “full back” or something of the sort. What did the manual refer to? I don’t know. Maybe the throttles had some “free” travel where they were still “idle” before increasing boost and thus 1/4 travel was still low boost. If DCS insists that this is the correct implementation than I just ask for the “special option” to disable the horn. 1 “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it!
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