Switching from front seat to rear not working in VR

[Sirbum]

I tried using #1 and #2 on keyboard with nothing, so i then bound the switching to my hotas and still nothing.

 

So not being able to switch in VR means i wont be able to turn on the Tpod or other items that need it back there.

[Rudel_chw]

11 minutes ago, Sirbum said:

I tried using #1 and #2 on keyboard with nothing, so i then bound the switching to my hotas and still nothing.

 

So not being able to switch in VR means i wont be able to turn on the Tpod or other items that need it back there.

check the mission on the editor, on the f-15e last tab make sure that the backseat is enabled.

[Sirbum]

this was in a training mission Rudel_chw

 

[Rudel_chw]

8 minutes ago, Sirbum said:

this was in a training mission Rudel_chw

 

the training missions can be loaded on the ME .. I’m pretty sure that the mission designer wanted you to stay on the front cockpit and so disabled the player’s aircraft backseat… but you can change that (tough it may break the training mission triggers … why you want to change seats on a training anyway?  

[Burt]

Switching fine on my end… weird but it is the first day.

[Iron Sights]

I wa stuck in the front on the first three training missions. I could change seats in free flight, so I think it is the setting causing that.

[YoYo]

No any issue, I can be on the first and second place. Try own mission editor, not created mission/training with some restrictions maybe.

[Lace]

Yes, there is a setting to 'ENABLE MULTICREW' in the aircraft config tab in the Mission Editor.  For whatever reason in some missions it is enabled, others not.

[YoYo]

26 minutes ago, Lace said:

Yes, there is a setting to 'ENABLE MULTICREW' in the aircraft config tab in the Mission Editor.  For whatever reason in some missions it is enabled, others not.

For training missions it's probably blocked because these missions are for station 1.

[Glide]

The control maps are a bit confusing.  You can map a key for both seats for the pilot controls, for example, but once you switch to the WSO, that mapping is not available.  Map the WSO key under Pilot controls, and map the Pilot key under the WSO controls.

[flyingscotsman]

Glad I found this thread, cannot get into wso seat, will try and find the Enable Multicrew, in the config tab...once I find the config tab. Thanks to all

 

[flyingscotsman]

Been at this on an off all morning, now have to please the boss, can anyone guide me to the Enable Multicrew, I've looked in setting aircraft controls, like for new module, but in ME on the right with I have the aircraft clicked I don't see an option. Sorry for being old, (and thick). Will get back to this in a few hours, I hope

[Rudel_chw]

10 minutes ago, flyingscotsman said:

Glad I found this thread, cannot get into wso seat, will try and find the Enable Multicrew, in the config tab...once I find the config tab. Thanks to all

 

Its this one:

 

 

[flyingscotsman]

Rudel...THANK YOU, Not a place I'd thought of looking at all....

Some time later! No joy. I've clicked SOLO Flight, no change. Tried various permutations of both crew, disable multicrew, no change.

If you go to controls, select F-15E WSO, 1&2 will indicate they are populated. I also set up Wso using an Eng Switch on the HOTAS Throttle, it indicates its accepted, but nothing happens in the game.

I deleted the module, closed the PC, started again and inserted the module again, no change

As I have LOADS of MODS, I disabled all the MODS and set up a new mission new map vanilla, no change.

I thought it might be the keyboard, but most other switches work, I do notice that the flap's switch on the Throttle is ignored, buttons 22/23 are populated in Controls section, but only F7 actually works, using the switch for flaps up & Landing Flaps, gets no response. 

Could this be a software glitch? Any advice, opinion apprecieated 

Edited June 23, 2023 by flyingscotsman
first plan failed

[flyingscotsman]

Also done a repair and cleanup, still unable to access WSO cockpit with current set up, or to allocate a spare switch to it. The control adjust says populated, but nothing happens. Log file attached if someone could take a look please

dcs.zip

[draconus]

6 hours ago, flyingscotsman said:

cannot get into wso seat

Just don't do it in training mission. Load some free flight or other mission.

[dleffler]

For me, that issue was because I had an old F-15E mod and the key bindings go confused so that the number keys set main mode (AA or AG, etc..) I had to remove the old mod, then it worked.

[Rudel_chw]

9 hours ago, flyingscotsman said:

Rudel...THANK YOU, Not a place I'd thought of looking at all....

Some time later! No joy. I've clicked SOLO Flight, no change. Tried various permutations of both crew, disable multicrew, no change.

If you go to controls, select F-15E WSO, 1&2 will indicate they are populated. I also set up Wso using an Eng Switch on the HOTAS Throttle, it indicates its accepted, but nothing happens in the game.

 

Hello,

 

I've tried the "Solo Flight" several times and it works .. you can ckeck it is enabled by going onto external view, there should be only one pilot, like this:

 

 

... and of course, you can't use "2" to sit in the back.

If you don't have "Solo flight" ticked, then you will see two pilots and can use 1 and 2 to change seats:

 

 

 

9 hours ago, flyingscotsman said:

...

Could this be a software glitch? Any advice, opinion apprecieated 

 

Maybe you have an F-15 Mod that has messed up with the keybinds.

 

[flyingscotsman]

Rudel_chw, Thank you for taking the time to assist, I'll get myself to the two crew and test again. I disabled the MODS, but will check again.

[flyingscotsman]

Rudel_chw, RESULT! I changed the aircraft config to 'equally responsible' confirmed 2 crew on board, press 2,and YAY back seat.

Must be the only one I had not tried.

THANK YOU for your assistance.....now I got a lot of learning to do. FYI I had dealings with RAF Lakenheath and the ACMI range over the North Sea, The RAF provided comms support and we did regular check and changes over at Lakenheath from RAF Honington nearby. The range was run by ex RAF aircrew and they had some excellent debriefs, fascinating to sit in on. There were more than a few kill's claimed by new RAF crews, that the gods eye view replay soon 'shot to bits'. In the main the USAF guys knew you could not beat the system and had a greater number of 'I almost got him' claims. Happy days

[flyingscotsman]

I also found that a free download of the F-15E Flyable MOD screws up the front to back seat configuration too. Deleted that. 

[mazex]

On 6/23/2023 at 2:03 PM, Glide said:

The control maps are a bit confusing.  You can map a key for both seats for the pilot controls, for example, but once you switch to the WSO, that mapping is not available.  Map the WSO key under Pilot controls, and map the Pilot key under the WSO controls.

Thanks! I was so frustrated that binding a switch to front / back seat did not work... Could swap to back seat fine, but not from the back seat to the front seat after that... But the keyboard 1 worked... Realized after your post that I have to go to the WSO key mappings to set the switch to front seat there...