fixed Train wheels below railway

[rayrayblues]

I can't thank you guys enough for all of the big improvement to trains.  

There are only two minor issues left (compared to what you have done so far).  I will address them in separate posts.

 

On The Channel, Persian Gulf, and Syria maps, train wheels are sunken half way into the roadbed

except when traveling over bridges, switches, tunnels and some road crossings. 

This doesn't happen on Caucasus or Normandy. The wheels are on the tracks, not under them.

I don't own Nevada and there aren't any railroads on The Marianas Islands.

I am downloading the NTTR map and will update this post later.

 

Thanks again for all of your hard work, Ray   

 

UPDATED INFO:

I just downloaded NTTR and the trains are fine. The problem seems to only affect Persian Gulf, The Channel and Syria  maps.

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by rayrayblues
additional info

[Flappie]

Thank you, @rayrayblues.

Reproduced on these 3 maps and reported.

[Rene Coulon]

Hi, Thank you for reporting the snag. I hoped we might see a fix in the latest update...maybe soon fingers crossed

 

 

[Rene Coulon]

Hi Guys,

Attached are videos of what my Trains look like...getting worse with every update. Terrible flickering/ Stuttering, and on the channel map in particular, the wheels dont turn and the move along way below the tracks...except on bridges...but wheels never turn. Looks really bad, not up to DCS standard at all.

 

[razo+r]

Both issues are already reported and we are awaiting a fix.... 

[Rene Coulon]

Thank razo, will be good for sure

[waterman]

Hi i just gave my British Steam Locomotive that i have built to correct height on track -   3 test runs.

DCS ST - Normandy 2 - works perfect.

DCS Open Beta - Normandy 2 - works perfect.

DCS Multi Thread - Normandy 2 - Wheels dont rotate and valve gear does not move - even from a standing start so its not a spoke strobing effect at speed - it just skids along the track like magic . Theres also the nice built in BEER GOGGLES Effect.

I tried some of my wagons with no arg 8 set for wheel rotations but results still the same.

If i pause DCS MT the trains are sharp and no beer goggles effect.

ED - I would guess its a bounding box calculation error in the MT code forcing the wheels animation arg 8 to reset or even looking for the wrong arg number.

Height adjustment of trains is simple if you build your own as you just adjust in Blender and use Tobis EDM Exporter. 

Good luck I hope it can be solved. 

I wonder how many users have reinstalled and messed around with settings trying to fix this. 

Good thing i dont use MT as i would have wasted countless hours trying to get the wheels to rotate ! 

DCS would have been sadly in my recycle bin.

Edited October 12, 2023 by waterman

[Flappie]

The trains stuttering was fixed with today's OB update.

Like @razo+r said, other issues already reported internally.

[waterman]

Thanks Flappie

 Looking forward to trying it out - im downloading the 2.9 update now.

- just tried it and the trains no longer stutter thanks .

 the steam locomotive wheels still dont turn maybe the Devs tested using a deisel or Electric loco as you cannot see if they are rotating or not so look ok.

Edited October 21, 2023 by waterman

[T_A]

Well now i`m getting this stuttering everywhere in MP using MT client

with ST clients its gone (like my FPS...)

[CGReload]

Same here, with external views of all aircraft. At first I thought it was a new effect but its seems rather annoying to be considered an addition. 

[Rene Coulon]

The Trains on the Caucasus map run on the Rails, on all other maps they run stupidly Below the Tracks .

On No maps do their Wheels turn.

For an amazing sim with such detail...this remains Sub Par...please give some attention guys

 

Thank you

[waterman]

Hi 

I build my own Steam Locomotives Wagons and Coaches and also the Krupp K5 German Railwaygun.

I can adjust the height of each one in blender and export the EDM files for EG - Normandy 2.

All of my wheels and valve gear animate and turn great but not in the MT Version.

As far as i can tell its the track height that is different on each Map. 

I did not release any of mine as it made them look stupid if they are hooked up with the Existing ones that are below the tracks.

I have said this several times already - " it looks like the DCS items need to be duplicated and the height adjusted and then clearly named "

Its a very simple task but i cannot edit a locked DCS EDM only my own files.

I kept asking for it to be fixed but i guess it is too hard .

[Flappie]

Train stuttering was fixed. Trains wheel below railway are yet to be fixed for Syria, Normandy and The Channel.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Flappie
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[gulredrel]

10 hours ago, Flappie said:

Train stuttering was fixed. Trains wheel below railway are still yet to be fixed for Syria, Normandy and The Channel.

Is the issue with the wheels not turning also known issue / related to being below the tracks?

[Flappie]

21 hours ago, gulredrel said:

Is the issue with the wheels not turning also known issue / related to being below the tracks?

I'm able to reproduce this issue in Caucasus, which means this is a different bug. I'll report it right away. Thanks!

[Rene Coulon]

Hi Guys,

Thankyou all for the feedback....Its great to know the guys are working on the issue.

 

Waterman, you should really package your work,  Once the MT issue is resolved. I am sure many would love to develop the Train side of the Sim...Especially in Normandy 2.

It will make a brilliant add on...like the V2 launcher

Regards

[Flappie]

This issue was fixed earlier this year.

In the upcoming core update, train wheels will spin again.

[waterman]

4 hours ago, Flappie said:

In the upcoming core update, train wheels will spin again.

Fantastic News at last Thankyou -

I have some Awesome Steam Locomotives i have been working on thankfully i never gave up hope DCS would fix the wheels.

I have even built the biggest Locomotive ever used in Britain - Its made of 2 Locomotives in DCS a Front and a Rear its a Spectacular 2-8-0-0-8-2 Bayer Garret - Very simple low poly design no bevels - details produced using normal map (normal map not applied in these pics yet) and textures are from real photographs and work nicely.

The Bayer Garret is for the Normandy 2 Map !

Also a very nice 0-6-0 Sugar Mill Locomotive for the upcoming Marianas WW2 Map !

All my locomotives have working animated valve gear so with the wheels update will look fantastic in DCS. 

More info soon !

 

 

Edited April 13 by waterman

[DD_Fenrir]

49 minutes ago, waterman said:

Fantastic News at last Thankyou -

I have some Awesome Steam Locomotives i have been working on thankfully i never gave up hope DCS would fix the wheels.

I have even built the bigest Locomotive ever used in Britain Its 2 Locomotives in DCS a Front and a Rear its a Spectacular 2-8-0-0-8-2 Bayer Garret - Very simple low poly design no bevels etc - for the Normandy 2 Map !

Also a very nice 0-6-0 Sugar Mill Locomotive for the upcoming Marianas WW2 Map !

All my locomotives have working animated valve gear so with the wheels update will look fantastic in DCS. 

More info soon !

 

 

That Garret looks brilliant; only issue is that it never wandered very far from the Worsborough incline (which is halfway between Sheffield and Leeds) - that's almost 150miles North of the most northerly parts of the Normandy map!

I would suggest that a Southern Railway mixed traffic type would be more appropriate; perhaps an N Class mogul?


 

[waterman]

2395 also worked the 1 in 37 Lickey Incline at Bromsgrove for a while also as number 69999.

LMS Bayer Garrets 2-6-0-0-6-2 see pic were used around London on heavy coal trains so a quick remodel and wheel set adjustment new Livery and its cool for that.

Important thing is i now have animated Walschaerts valve gear in DCS so many Locos can be produced easily from the armature.

This is my 4MT Loco Valve Gear setup low poly wheels have hand drawn height map theres no spokes just flat disks .

Edited April 13 by waterman

[Rene Coulon]

THIS IS FANTASTIC NEWS !!! made my day, thanx Waterman for sharing.

Now we just need some armoured German trains to go after for prizes...

[draconus]

On 4/14/2025 at 1:36 AM, waterman said:

Important thing is i now have animated Walschaerts valve gear in DCS

Cool, throw us some vid.

[waterman]

Awesome job thanks for fixing the Train height problem and the wheels Animations - Great Work Team thankyou.

I only realised when i tried a test run of a new Locomotive that was set to correct height on Normandy 2.

Interesting you can see how much the track data base has been lowered see the picture 47357 was on track surface before update and is a simple adjustment.

So Great news the DCS Trains i have tested on Normandy 2 - Caucasas and Persian Gulf are all now running on the rails at the correct height .

Also i can now run my Locos and rollling stock with the DCS ones as they are now the same height.

The green Locomotive has her first run in DCS - I am building her in blender a Lord Nelson Class " 957 Lord Howe "

Edited April 29 by waterman