reported Datalink doesn’t work since last update

[Seether1980]

Hello everyone,
since the latest update this week, I've been having issues with the datalink connection on the A10C II. It seems that in all single-player campaigns, allied aircraft are no longer visible on the TAD. Additionally, in the HMCS, I can't see the aircraft on the network anymore.
Making changes to the network settings hasn't helped.

Best regards

[Yurgon]

I just ran a random mission (The Enemy Within 3.0 Mission 06 Hammerfall Patrol). 2 A-10Cs of another flight showed up on the TAD and HMCS as they taxied past me.

My wingman was initially off the network (both TAD and HMCS) but showed up in blue on both sensors after he had taken off.

Could it be that wingmen datalink is off until they have taken off? Can you confirm this theory? Do all assets remain off datalink or just wingmen? Does this apply to all campaigns (which ones?) and does it also apply to custom missions?

[Lord Vader]

Hi @Seether1980

I was also unable to reproduce in a mission of my own. I could see all aircraft correctly setup in Datalink (Net and Own IDs) both on TAD as well as the HMD. 

We would need a short track replay of this occurring on your side as well as your wingman so we can understand what may be happening.

[Dragan]

Now the connection is visible only after takeoff, I noticed it too,.Some planes, such as the F-4 Phantom, have no connection at all and cannot be seen from the A-10

Edited February 26, 2024 by Dragan

[Snoopy]

MP last night network setup correctly could see both of my wingmen (clients) fine on the TAD but not in the HMCS.  Track was to long to share will try to get a shorter one this week.

[Seether1980]

The behavior regarding the Datalink has somehow changed. Previously, allied units were also visible on the TAD and HMCS when on the ground. However, with a cold start, this is no longer the case.

[Stuka]

I did a quick test:

Groupmember visible on both TAD as HMCS:

 

nullnull

[NineLine]

On 2/27/2024 at 9:22 AM, Seether1980 said:

The behavior regarding the Datalink has somehow changed. Previously, allied units were also visible on the TAD and HMCS when on the ground. However, with a cold start, this is no longer the case.

Team has let me know that this is correct, that you will not get DL from other aircraft unless they are airborne, no DL when they are on the ground. Thanks. 

[Snoopy]

16 hours ago, Stuka said:

I did a quick test:

Groupmember visible on both TAD as HMCS:

 

nullnull

It's a weird bug, my last flight it was fine for during launch and the initial portion of the flight but halfway through the flight lost them on HMCS but could still see them on the TAD.

 

16 hours ago, NineLine said:

Team has let me know that this is correct, that you will not get DL from other aircraft unless they are airborne, no DL when they are on the ground. Thanks. 

Not sure who is providing that info but that isn't correct.  Can't share the actual document due to ITAR but it does work on the ground and we often work redballs (maintenance while the pilot is in the seat during launches) and blueballs (maintenance while the pilot is in the seat during recoveries) specific to the Tactical Data Network issues.  

[NineLine]

7 hours ago, Snoopy said:

It's a weird bug, my last flight it was fine for during launch and the initial portion of the flight but halfway through the flight lost them on HMCS but could still see them on the TAD.

 

Not sure who is providing that info but that isn't correct.  Can't share the actual document due to ITAR but it does work on the ground and we often work redballs (maintenance while the pilot is in the seat during launches) and blueballs (maintenance while the pilot is in the seat during recoveries) specific to the Tactical Data Network issues.  

Thanks for the feedback, let me ask.

[ASAP]

On 2/28/2024 at 11:17 AM, NineLine said:

Team has let me know that this is correct, that you will not get DL from other aircraft unless they are airborne, no DL when they are on the ground. Thanks. 

That is not accurate.

The EPLRS radio doesn't care that it is on the ground and as soon as it is initialized it will try and time into the network. As long as there is line of sight to another SADL player it should work. If pilots don't see their other flight members on SADL prior to taxiing out of the chocks they call maintenance to come and fix the equipment.

Obviously SADL is more complex than the game and there are valid reasons why it might not work until after takeoff, but it is by no means the norm. You should have SADL in chocks while taxiing around. 

Edited March 1, 2024 by ASAP

[Snoopy]

11 hours ago, ASAP said:

That is not accurate.

The EPLRS radio doesn't care that it is on the ground and as soon as it is initialized it will try and time into the network. As long as there is line of sight to another SADL player it should work. If pilots don't see their other flight members on SADL prior to taxiing out of the chocks they call maintenance to come and fix the equipment.

Obviously SADL is more complex than the game and there are valid reasons why it might not work until after takeoff, but it is by no means the norm. You should have SADL in chocks while taxiing around. 

 

Already said the same based on first hand real world experience  and @NineLine said he would talk with the team right above your post.

 

[A10Yoda]

On 2/29/2024 at 4:05 AM, Snoopy said:

It's a weird bug, my last flight it was fine for during launch and the initial portion of the flight but halfway through the flight lost them on HMCS but could still see them on the TAD.

 

Not sure who is providing that info but that isn't correct.  Can't share the actual document due to ITAR but it does work on the ground and we often work redballs (maintenance while the pilot is in the seat during launches) and blueballs (maintenance while the pilot is in the seat during recoveries) specific to the Tactical Data Network issues.  

Can confirm on older software versions you can see anyone contributing.

[NineLine]

Does anyone have any tracks handy? Otherwise I will work on some tomorrow. Thanks. 

From Dev:
"Datalink should work on the ground once it is turned on and timed into the network. Otherwise it is a bug indeed. Same for symbols being not visible on HMCS, but visible on TAD. I would appreciate tracks or at least missions with steps to reproduce."

Thanks

[NineLine]

On 2/25/2024 at 4:31 AM, Seether1980 said:

Hello everyone,
since the latest update this week, I've been having issues with the datalink connection on the A10C II. It seems that in all single-player campaigns, allied aircraft are no longer visible on the TAD. Additionally, in the HMCS, I can't see the aircraft on the network anymore.
Making changes to the network settings hasn't helped.

Best regards

So I was just testing this for making tracks for the devs.

When I start up I see no other aircraft on the TAD. 

If I switch off the JTRS switch and back on, then I see airborne targets.

I do not see my flight on the ground.

I do see my flight once they take off. And when I land I still see everything in flight.

As flights land, not my own, their marker stops tracking when that aircraft lands (is this correct?)

As my flight lands, their marker stops tracking when they land (is this correct)

Right now I see the bug with the JTRS switch needing to be switched off and on again to see flights in the air, but want to confirm the tracking of other flights and my own on the ground. 

 

 

[NineLine]

Ok, all answer, and reported. Thanks all.