Europe Wishlist Thread

[draconus]

3 hours ago, Tom Kazansky said:

Maybe the map will not be called Fulda gap but

"Iron Curtain - Germany"?

They use geographical names for maps so rather "Germany 1985" or something similar denoting Germany as the main focus area and something suggesting the modeled time period.

And I doubt it will be any close to as big as Afghanistan. They'll have to make it smaller due to the object denstity.

[YoYo]

DCS: Germany

I could be 400x400km, so samething like this, maybe part of Poland too?

 

[Rifter]

11 hours ago, twistking said:

We need a high fidelity A-10A!

11 hours ago, flanker1 said:

Mig-23 ML(D)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Given the overall scenario...

...we need Dynamic Campain!

[YoYo]

36 minutes ago, Rifter said:

...we need Dynamic Campain!

Two weeks!

[Silver_Dragon]

Other detail, has a "M1A2 SEP" updated 3D model on the ED Screenshots (outside of the M1A2 Sep 3? from "2024 and Beyond"), not sure if centred on a "Germany Reunification" time period, intent check about more details.
 

Recomend open a "DCS Newsletter title pics" outside to them, I start to think that title pics will be show more and more "Easter egg" with the time.

[twistking]

9 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Other detail, has a "M1A2 SEP" updated 3D model on the ED Screenshots (outside of the M1A2 Sep 3? from "2024 and Beyond"), not sure if centred on a "Germany Reunification" time period, intent check about more details.

M1A2 is still too new for anything involving the inner German border. M1A1 would be a better fit.

[SkHiTech]

+1

[SkHiTech]

+1

[Gierasimov]

The new Abrams is meant for Afghanistan I think, together with MRAP truck.

[Mike_Romeo]

On 7/8/2024 at 4:43 PM, Silver_Dragon said:

not sure if centred on a "Germany Reunification" time period,

Very likely. The blue sign in the background of the CH-47 trailer says "Partnership for peace" which is a program launched in 1994 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_Peace

[bies]

On 7/8/2024 at 2:20 AM, twistking said:

We need a high fidelity A-10A!

Yes, full fidelity proper Cold War/Gulf War A-10A and Su-25.

Our FC3 A-10A is mid 1990s variant, LASTE upgrade, with computerized weapon-aiming equipment, an autopilot, and a ground-collision warning system.

[twistking]

1 hour ago, Mike_Romeo said:

Very likely. The blue sign in the background of the CH-47 trailer says "Partnership for peace" which is a program launched in 1994 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_Peace

In 1994 there wouldn't have been parts of the (then former) inner border left, as they were shown in one of the ED trailers. Either the "Partnership for peace" sign, or the inner border must be an anachronism, if they are on the same map.
Maybe the sign is just an oversight? Even if the theme is the German reunification (or a fictional failed reunification) it would still make sense to date the map around 1989.
1994 doesn't make sense at all.

[YoYo]

The name of this topic should be renamed , it won't be "Fulda Gap" but DCS: Germany.

If the map contains Berlin Schönefeld Airport - and Fulda (maybe?) it could be probably 480x350 km map, so even bigger than Normandy 2 (about 400x400 km), with only land (not 1/3 of the  sea). very big map and a lot of work.

So very reasonably - from the border of Poland, until slightly beyond Frankfurt. It's possible, but it would be one of the largest maps (and basically the land itself) and then I honestly don't think they would just call such a large map with an obscure name - Fulda Gap (small part of this map to be honest), instead of simply DCS: Germany. That's why I'm writing that it won't be Fulda (I don't mean the content, because it could definitely be there) and I can even bet on it. It may contain this fragment, of course, but since the map goes so far and will be so large, they will not call it a small fragment, but DCS Germany. From a marketing perspective, it would be a shot in the own arm.

I just hope it won't be divided in sectors and we won't get the Halfgermany option  .

Edited July 10, 2024 by YoYo

[Gierasimov]

6 minutes ago, twistking said:

In 1994 there wouldn't have been parts of the (then former) inner border left, as they were shown in one of the ED trailers. Either the "Partnership for peace" sign, or the inner border must be an anachronism, if they are on the same map.
Maybe the sign is just an oversight? Even if the theme is the German reunification (or a fictional failed reunification) it would still make sense to date the map around 1989.
1994 doesn't make sense at all.

All maps in DCS are meant to believable represent given area of operations, however use many shortcuts and approximations. Even that NATO symbol does not look 100% real in the Chinook video. Then again maps are built with the data available, so maybe there is a compromise of actual years aimed for.

[MAXsenna]

10 minutes ago, YoYo said:

If the map contains Berlin Schönefeld Airport - and Fulda (maybe?) it could be probably 480x330 km map, so even bigger than Normandy 2 (about 400x400 km), with only land (not 1/3 of the  sea). very big map and a lot of work

Careful my friend! They didn't get any water with Afghanistan. Now, imagine the fallout to what you are proposing!  

Joking aside. What was the doctrine regarding carriers in Europe? How close the mainland Europe would they bring them? Better discuss it now, right?  

[The_Doktor]

Hi all,

anything less than the entire federal republic is useless. All major air bases are in West Germany.

scroll down to the map.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_(Rakete)

I'm talking about the aircraft carrier Rhineland Palatinate 

[Gierasimov]

Plot twist - DCS: World Spherical Earth project was revealed not a Germany map...

[draconus]

6 minutes ago, Gierasimov said:

Plot twist - DCS: World Spherical Earth project was revealed not a Germany map...

Funny but... no, not at that detail level.

42 minutes ago, YoYo said:

I just hope it won't be divided in sectors and we won't get the Halfgermany option

What's wrong with that? It's just an option.

[YoYo]

28 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Careful my friend! They didn't get any water with Afghanistan. Now, imagine the fallout to what you are proposing!  

Joking aside. What was the doctrine regarding carriers in Europe? How close the mainland Europe would they bring them? Better discuss it now, right?  

I know, ED loves a water and sand, a lot of sand!

[draconus]

1 minute ago, YoYo said:

I know, ED loves a water and sand, a lot of sand!

And we love bringing democracy to Middle East

[MAXsenna]

And we love bringing democracy to Middle East

To be fair, it was invented not too distant from it. Trickle up situation?

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[MAXsenna]

Plot twist - DCS: World Spherical Earth project was revealed not a Germany map...

Watching the Casmo interview with Wags now. I get the feeling that "regional" maps will be a thing of the past down the line. Wonder what's gonna happen with the ones we have now. They must for sure be able to port them at one point or another.

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[Gierasimov]

24 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Watching the Casmo interview with Wags now. I get the feeling that "regional" maps will be a thing of the past down the line. Wonder what's gonna happen with the ones we have now. They must for sure be able to port them at one point or another.

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Long time ago Kate said maps will coexist and continue to be created separate to the spherical earth but who knows. We know the maps right now are not transferable to the Earth project ... but we also know everything is subject to change 

[MAXsenna]

Long time ago Kate said maps will coexist and continue to be created separate to the spherical earth but who knows. We know the maps right now are not transferable to the Earth project ... but we also know everything is subject to change 

Yup! Especially that last sentence. Wags clearly said that they would co-exist "for some time", I believe his words were. Well, one can always hope for a merge. That would be awesome! I'm positive!

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[MBot]

54 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Joking aside. What was the doctrine regarding carriers in Europe? How close the mainland Europe would they bring them? Better discuss it now, right?

Of course you never know what would have happened under specific circumstances, but doctrinally the carriers had little to no role in central Europe. Naval aviation is really expensive (carriers, aircraft, training), so it doesn't make much sense to use it in places where you can also use cheaper land based aircraft. Unless of course there would be nothing better do to for the naval aviation, i.e. in limited post-Cold War conflicts. But during WWIII there would have been no shortage of tasks for the navy. The USN was expected to engage the Soviets and its allies on accross the globe and generally did not have the number of carriers it thought it needed to cover all commitments (Norwegian Sea, Mediterranian Sea, Pacific, Indian Ocean). So I don't see it supporting the initial defense of Germany.

I could imagine that naval aviation would have been used to support a proposed amphibious landing of a Marine division on Jutland a little time into the war for the defense of Denmark. Or if things went really bad, to support a landing during a counter-offensive on occupied western Europe a couple weeks/months later.