DCS F-4E Phantom II Release Date Announcement- May 21st 2024

[UN9249]

7 минут назад, Lee Dove сказал:

Your analogy is flawed. You paid for a pre-order (discounted) with no defined delivery just a target. If the product was marked "available" or "in stock" than you would have a valid gripe but it was not. HB also offered a refund for when they realised they would miss the spring target, did you take advantage of that offer? 

So I didn’t get early access, but I get (or not?) it along with everyone else. As for the refund, I have no idea when or how, HB offered it, besides, as I was told, goods purchased at the ED store cannot be returned or exchanged. (but this did not apply to НВ, but to another product). Bloggers on YouTube got real early access

[Ben149]

11 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

you need to wait until a little later, patch is usually around 15:00 GMT / ZULU  

Why tho? Why don't we just get it when it's done? We should've received it yesterday but didn't. This happened some time ago already and then we got the patch when it was ready, not at the normal patch time because it's not a normal patch anymore, so why do we stick to the normal times?

I don't wanna offend anyone, I'm genuinely interested 

[MustangSally]

6 minutes ago, UN9249 said:

So I didn’t get early access, but I get (or not?) it along with everyone else. As for the refund, I have no idea when or how, HB offered it, besides, as I was told, goods purchased at the ED store cannot be returned or exchanged. (but this did not apply to НВ, but to another product). Bloggers on YouTube got real early access

Bloggers on YouTube got Pre-release, you will get early access....why the <grrrr> is this so hard to understand!

5 minutes ago, Ben149 said:

Why tho? Why don't we just get it when it's done? We should've received it yesterday but didn't. This happened some time ago already and then we got the patch when it was ready, not at the normal patch time because it's not a normal patch anymore, so why do we stick to the normal times?

I don't wanna offend anyone, I'm genuinely interested 

OH MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!

Edited May 22, 2024 by MustangSally

[Lionel Mandrake]

8 minutes ago, Lee Dove said:

A target date isn't when it is going to happen, it is when you want it to happen. A deadline is a time or date before which a particular task must be finished or a particular thing must be done. As far as I am aware ED and HB have target dates NOT deadlines.

Nice semantics, a release date is a release date. Deadline or target date, call it what you will.

*ED has deposited $0.02 into your account.

 

[hermes7226]

Meanwhile, a Kiowa video was released with the promise of “in 2 weeks.” I hope they also give out a preview version to YouTube reviewers.  

[UN9249]

3 минуты назад, MustangSally сказал:

Bloggers on YouTube got Pre-release, you will get early access....why the <grrrr> is this hard to understand!

I don't care what these tricks are called in the fine print for marketers. I am from that generation that calls a spade a spade.

[Lee Dove]

8 minutes ago, UN9249 said:

So I didn’t get early access, but I get (or not?) it along with everyone else. As for the refund, I have no idea when or how, HB offered it, besides, as I was told, goods purchased at the ED store cannot be returned or exchanged. (but this did not apply to НВ, but to another product). Bloggers on YouTube got real early access

It will be an Early Access version that is about to be released NOT final. You paid for "pre-order" . When you pay for something it is your responsibility to understand what contract you are entering into.

[Flav]

1 potatoe, 2 potatoes, 3 potatoes, 4 potatoes, 5 potatoes, 6 potatoes, 7 potatoes, 8 potatoes, 9 potatoes, 10 potatoes, and again.

[BIGNEWY]

Folks just stop with the back and forth, treat each other with respect. 

Planned update is today the 22nd, usual time is 15:00 GMT / ZULU but we do need to be flexible. 

thanks

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

5 minutes ago, hermes7226 said:

Meanwhile, a Kiowa video was released with the promise of “in 2 weeks.” I hope they also give out a preview version to YouTube reviewers.  

OT: They already did if you have paid — attention.

[Silver_Dragon]

20 minutes ago, Lee Dove said:

A target date isn't when it is going to happen, it is when you want it to happen. A deadline is a time or date before which a particular task must be finished or a particular thing must be done. As far as I am aware ED and HB have target dates NOT deadlines.

ED never put a Deadline, on fact,was Heatblur, based on a date patch on your pre-release video... the problem, Heatblur dont count with the patch will be a last time problems.

Edited May 22, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[BIGNEWY]

The 21st was a planned date we had discussed with heatblur, sadly the final checks yesterday found the stopping issues and we had to delay it for 24 hours. 

Today the 22nd is looking good, if everything goes to plan 15:00 GMT / 16:00 BST / 18:00MSK is the usual timings but we may need to be flexible. 

thanks

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Just now, BIGNEWY said:

The 21st was a planned date we had discussed with heatblur, sadly the final checks yesterday found the stopping issues and we had to delay it for 24 hours. 

Today the 22nd is looking good, if everything goes to plan 15:00 GMT / 16:00 BST / 18:00MSK is the usual timings but we may need to be flexible. 

thanks

My PC is ready!

 

11 minutes ago, hermes7226 said:

Meanwhile, a Kiowa video was released with the promise of “in 2 weeks.” I hope they also give out a preview version to YouTube reviewers.  

OT: They already did if you have paid — attention.

[BIGNEWY]

18 minutes ago, Ben149 said:

Why tho? Why don't we just get it when it's done? We should've received it yesterday but didn't. This happened some time ago already and then we got the patch when it was ready, not at the normal patch time because it's not a normal patch anymore, so why do we stick to the normal times?

I don't wanna offend anyone, I'm genuinely interested 

Because we have a lot of things to check before we release, 15:00GMT is the usual time that works for us but we may need to be flexible. 

[UN9249]

3 минуты назад, BIGNEWY сказал:

The 21st was a planned date we had discussed with heatblur, sadly the final checks yesterday found the stopping issues and we had to delay it for 24 hours. 

Today the 22nd is looking good, if everything goes to plan 15:00 GMT / 16:00 BST / 18:00MSK is the usual timings but we may need to be flexible. 

thanks

Are you sitting there with stopwatches? or are you waiting for the moon to enter the constellation Taurus? I'm just kidding.

[hermes7226]

2 минуты назад, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants сказал:

 

 

OT: They already did if you have paid — attention.

No, I don't know about that. Has someone already done a review? 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

OT: iirc, it was our reliable heli driver starting with a C.Just showing some in-flight game play, no review. Last one, will be b2t in no time.

Edited May 22, 2024 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[Ben149]

5 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Because we have a lot of things to check before we release, 15:00GMT is the usual time that works for us but we may need to be flexible. 

Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated  

[JumpinK]

Reading this thread itself is worth making some popcorn!

A new terminology is needed for this; "Notience"... because everyone seems running out of patience!

Edited May 22, 2024 by JumpinK

[Dom82]

vor 14 Minuten schrieb BIGNEWY:

The 21st was a planned date we had discussed with heatblur, sadly the final checks yesterday found the stopping issues and we had to delay it for 24 hours. 

Today the 22nd is looking good, if everything goes to plan 15:00 GMT / 16:00 BST / 18:00MSK is the usual timings but we may need to be flexible. 

thanks

PC is ready - Check

Phantom TShirt - Check

Mustache - Check

[warmachine79]

38 minutes ago, Ben149 said:

Why tho? Why don't we just get it when it's done? We should've received it yesterday but didn't. This happened some time ago already and then we got the patch when it was ready, not at the normal patch time because it's not a normal patch anymore, so why do we stick to the normal times?

I don't wanna offend anyone, I'm genuinely interested 

That is something nobody wants to botch. Everybody who has to deliver high-quality (=flawless) stuff in his professional life which, once published, cannot be taken back will confirm you this. You do not double-check, you tenfold-check and are still uncomfortable when you hit the "Submit"-or whatever button. That is nothing you can do with a "everything will be fine"-attitude. 

Edited May 22, 2024 by warmachine79

[AdrianL]

31 minutes ago, hermes7226 said:

promise of “in 2 weeks.”

It is not promised in 2 weeks exactly. It say "in 2 weeks^tm" . So 2 weeks or more. 

Edited May 22, 2024 by AdrianL

[hermes7226]

1 минуту назад, AdrianL сказал:

It is not promised in 2 weeks exactly. It say "in 2 weeks^tm" . So 2 weeks or more. 

 

May be 

[Silver_Dragon]

3 minutes ago, hermes7226 said:

May be 

"TM" has the point... the best movement.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

This means definitely not…just like “in the future” or Soon^TM