Tomcatter87 Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Can confirm - the latest update causes my fps to suffer a lot in the remastered F-5 - it's about 11 to 17 now, while other modules do not cause any problems at all. "Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, and there you will always long to return." Check out my DCS content on Instagram
Bucic Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 13 minutes ago, JasBird said: Same here. Massive performance drop in VR with the F-5. No luck trying to clear: Saved Games/fxo Saved games/metashaders2 Windows shader cache ( Not sure how to clear this folder?) https://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-delete-directx-shader-cache-in-windows F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
twistking Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 it's highly unlikely that it's related to shader caching. since performance normalizes on pausing of the sim and bottleneck is from main thread (NOT render thread) it is probably not a rendering issue, but a sim issue... My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Bucic Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 (edited) 18 hours ago, twistking said: it's highly unlikely that it's related to shader caching. since performance normalizes on pausing of the sim and bottleneck is from main thread (NOT render thread) it is probably not a rendering issue, but a sim issue... Clearing cache is almost always just another variable out of the way, not a sure remedy. I'm still on a holiday trip, so can't weigh in myself directly. Edited December 27, 2024 by Bucic F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
YoYo Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 (edited) 47 minutes ago, JasBird said: Same here. Massive performance drop in VR with the F-5. No luck trying to clear: Saved Games/fxo Saved games/metashaders2 Windows shader cache ( Not sure how to clear this folder?) It was there before, it doesn't help. It's a module issue. Since there is also a problem with George and Petrovich who do not see the targets now I think the fix will be very soon. Maybe even tomorrow. Another topic: Edited December 26, 2024 by YoYo Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Checkmate Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 (edited) Just tried the F-5E remastered and the F-16 using the instant Action Mission on the Afghanistan map. I tried to fly around the same area of Herat base in map grid MT-28. What I notice was with the F-5E I was getting anywhere from 40 to 26 fps and 10 fps on landing and in the F-16 was getting anywhere from 90 to 45 fps. The only diffrence I noticed was in the F-5E mission there was aircraft moving around the base which can slow things down alot. I have seen this issues before with external textures of aircraft causing major FPS issues. I was hoping that this issue would get addressed some day. As for major FPS hits I not sure, but I will keep looking. Edited December 26, 2024 by Checkmate
YoYo Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 @Flappie It seems we have enough of these reports already to consider this as "reported"? Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
jerzem Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Checkmate: Just tried the F-5E remastered and the F-16 using the instant Action Mission on the Afghanistan map. I have the same problems with my Quest 3. F5E , and also with the Apache. Both between 12 to 8 fps. But only when I press the fly button. Always and everywhere the same. >> With F18, F16, FW190, Bf109, Ka-50 3, and so on have in the same Area between 90 to 45. Clearing fxo, metashaders2, and shader cache does not help. Previously the frames were ok.
Psychotoddler Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Same here, 12 FPS just sitting on the runway in the instant action takeoff caucasius mission. Switched to f16 and getting 144 fps. What’s going on??
zaelu Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Personally I haven't encountered the problem after clearing the shader caches and the nvidia shader cache. Did several start in f5 and the FPS is dropping first to 10 but recovers fast to 40. Maybe I am just still lucky and at some point it will fail again... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Bucic Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 21 minutes ago, zaelu said: Personally I haven't encountered the problem after clearing the shader caches and the nvidia shader cache. Did several start in f5 and the FPS is dropping first to 10 but recovers fast to 40. Maybe I am just still lucky and at some point it will fail again... What's your wake turbulence setting? F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
streakeagle Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 1 hour ago, zaelu said: Personally I haven't encountered the problem after clearing the shader caches and the nvidia shader cache. Did several start in f5 and the FPS is dropping first to 10 but recovers fast to 40. Maybe I am just still lucky and at some point it will fail again... Cleared my cache. No difference. My FPS are twice as good or better in the F-4E. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tribbin Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 So does it only affect the people flying the F-5, or also people flying close to the F-5? (as the outside view has the same framerate-halfing) Crystal Light • TM AVA • TM Warthog set • TM PTR • RX6950XT • 5800X3D • 128GB F-86 • F-4 • F-5 • F-16 • F/A-18 • P-51D • UH-1H • L-39 • Yak-52 • MiG-15 • MiG-21 • Mi-24 • Mi-8 Supercarrier • Syria • PG • Sinai • Nevada • Kola (refunded) Christen Eagle II <-- Fix the annoyingly short engine sound loop (https://forum.dcs.world/topic/199243-lawn-mower-engine-sound/?do=findComment&comment=5389028)
streakeagle Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 (edited) I have a small update: I am only seeing the FPS problem in multiplayer. I flew the same instant action mission as yesterday (air-to-air in Sinai) and now have FPS comparable to the F-4E. But when I spawn in a multiplayer mission, the frame rates start out insanely low, then once the textures are loaded, the frame rate is about 30 fps compared to my normal 73 fps. I haven't flow around other people in F-5s, so I can't say whether non-player F-5s affect frame rate. Edited December 27, 2024 by streakeagle [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RampantCoyote Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 The F-5E was abysmal in multiplayer for me (slide show), with a server with a lot of objects but no other players around. In Single-Player, it was only bad.
tribbin Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 Which version(s) of the F-5E are affected? As in; can people de-install the remastered or buy the FC version as a fallback? Crystal Light • TM AVA • TM Warthog set • TM PTR • RX6950XT • 5800X3D • 128GB F-86 • F-4 • F-5 • F-16 • F/A-18 • P-51D • UH-1H • L-39 • Yak-52 • MiG-15 • MiG-21 • Mi-24 • Mi-8 Supercarrier • Syria • PG • Sinai • Nevada • Kola (refunded) Christen Eagle II <-- Fix the annoyingly short engine sound loop (https://forum.dcs.world/topic/199243-lawn-mower-engine-sound/?do=findComment&comment=5389028)
YoYo Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, tribbin said: Which version(s) of the F-5E are affected? As in; can people de-install the remastered or buy the FC version as a fallback? I saw posts related to the non-remaster version too but no one reported about FC version (this is a simplified version). Edited December 27, 2024 by YoYo Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
-=Shin=- Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 Hello guys....i have a strange problem with the F5 now....(old version) Squadron Server....Multi Client Jet Slots available.... In the F5 on Nellis/NEvada..its impossible to do anything....5 FPS, Monster Lag! If i slot into other Jets there...all fine! Does anyone have same issues? Discord : vFS F-16 VIPER CLUB Squadron
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 27, 2024 ED Team Posted December 27, 2024 Hi, the fps issue has been reported, after a while it does reduce, the issue is not terrain specific. The team are working on a fix thank you 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Ghostrider 147 Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 12 hours ago, tribbin said: So does it only affect the people flying the F-5, or also people flying close to the F-5? (as the outside view has the same framerate-halfing) I noticed a severe FPS drop in the F-5E Remastered during a BFM training mission flying the F-5E against other F-5E's. The FPS dropped when getting near other F-5E's, when I flew back to base and the distance increased the FPS slowly returned to my normal values. CPU: i5-13600k // GPU: RTX 4070 // MoBo: B760-PLUS // RAM: 32GB DDR5-6000 //Stick: VKB Gunfighter Mk. III with SCG grip // Throttle: VKB STECS Mini Favorite DCS modules: F-14A/B Tomcat, F-5E Tiger II My Flickr page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/201136137@N07/
Bucic Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said: Hi, the fps issue has been reported, after a while it does reduce, the issue is not terrain specific. The team are working on a fix thank you This one as well? The common "performance tanking when up close" factor seem hard to ignore. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 27, 2024 ED Team Posted December 27, 2024 47 minutes ago, Bucic said: This one as well? The common "performance tanking when up close" factor seem hard to ignore. I dont think so, your issue will need more investigation. please keep this thread just for the F-5E FPS issue. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Bucic Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 14 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: I dont think so, your issue will need more investigation. please keep this thread just for the F-5E FPS issue. thank you I will! Curiosity took the better of me. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Checkmate Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 (edited) I see this problem when I get close to or in the visinity of other airacraft like the Apache or F-16. Could these aircraft textures be affecting anything? Edited December 27, 2024 by Checkmate
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